Another Creeper Coach...mshsaa is not a reporter.

[TheRealJoey]

'We were shocked': Liberty family surprised MSHSAA is not mandated reporter

It can't be taken for granted that governing bodies for school activities are doing enough to protect students. The KSHB 41 I-Team uncovered polices that shocked a local sheriff and prompted a lawmaker to vow to take action.

www.kshb.com

 

[farmer_fran]

Very interesting story. I am glad to hear a bill is being presented to make MO a reporter state. Certainly hope that more will be done. Shocking that the high school sports governing bodies in very few states report this.

 

[Missouri Kid]

This would be a REALLY BAD IDEA.
From the outset let me say that I raised daughters, all three sport athletes, with numerous coaches and never had this experience. While I abhor the conduct of the coach mentioned, we should not make MSHSAA a mandated reporter other than to the school district responsible for the coach.
MSHSAA is a member organization which has difficulty fulfilling its present obligations to its members. Why saddle them with more? Why should school districts A-Y be responsible for an employee in district Z? They should not, and therefore not be liable on any grounds for that employee. We have waaaaay too much bureaucratic BS to deal with as is.

The answer to this is really simple for the parents. Send a letter to every Board member, every administrator in the building, the chief of police and/or county sheriff, DESE, and the teacher outlining your concerns with exhibits. Emphasize that you expect things done in hours and days, not weeks and months.

Or you could resort to the Mid 1900's method where dad would pick up the phone, call the individual and say, "Look you sonofabitch, we know what you did to our daughter. Get your gear packed and your resignation in or me and my friends are going to come over there and slit your bag and run your (effing) leg through it!"

 

[BoosterBosko]

Or you could resort to the Mid 1900's method where dad would pick up the phone, call the individual

Now Im no historian but something tells me that people weren't making a bunch of phone calls in the mid 1900's. Again, Im no historian.

 

[Sam Stone]

I'm sure MSHSAA has been advised of their role (or lack thereof) by their attorneys. Also sure that their attorneys are more informed of the law and their organization's legal liability than Media Hog Sheriff who was "randomly selected" by the TV station to offer his insight into the issue.

 

[Mofan79]

This would be a REALLY BAD IDEA.
From the outset let me say that I raised daughters, all three sport athletes, with numerous coaches and never had this experience. While I abhor the conduct of the coach mentioned, we should not make MSHSAA a mandated reporter other than to the school district responsible for the coach.
MSHSAA is a member organization which has difficulty fulfilling its present obligations to its members. Why saddle them with more? Why should school districts A-Y be responsible for an employee in district Z? They should not, and therefore not be liable on any grounds for that employee. We have waaaaay too much bureaucratic BS to deal with as is.

The answer to this is really simple for the parents. Send a letter to every Board member, every administrator in the building, the chief of police and/or county sheriff, DESE, and the teacher outlining your concerns with exhibits. Emphasize that you expect things done in hours and days, not weeks and months.

Or you could resort to the Mid 1900's method where dad would pick up the phone, call the individual and say, "Look you sonofabitch, we know what you did to our daughter. Get your gear packed and your resignation in or me and my friends are going to come over there and slit your bag and run your (effing) leg through it!"

All a mandated reporter is required to do is hotline unless there is immediate danger to the student (in which case any normal person would act either way)... Its not a big ask

 

[TheRealJoey]

This would be a REALLY BAD IDEA.
From the outset let me say that I raised daughters, all three sport athletes, with numerous coaches and never had this experience. While I abhor the conduct of the coach mentioned, we should not make MSHSAA a mandated reporter other than to the school district responsible for the coach.
MSHSAA is a member organization which has difficulty fulfilling its present obligations to its members. Why saddle them with more? Why should school districts A-Y be responsible for an employee in district Z? They should not, and therefore not be liable on any grounds for that employee. We have waaaaay too much bureaucratic BS to deal with as is.

The answer to this is really simple for the parents. Send a letter to every Board member, every administrator in the building, the chief of police and/or county sheriff, DESE, and the teacher outlining your concerns with exhibits. Emphasize that you expect things done in hours and days, not weeks and months.

Or you could resort to the Mid 1900's method where dad would pick up the phone, call the individual and say, "Look you sonofabitch, we know what you did to our daughter. Get your gear packed and your resignation in or me and my friends are going to come over there and slit your bag and run your (effing) leg through it!"

 

[Eagles_Ball]

I guess I'm confused at why a change would be necessary. The school district personnel were contacted. They are mandated reporters. If, by some wild stretch of the imagination, MSHSAA were the only people contacted, they SOP is to immediately contact the school district (the mandated reporter). Seems completely unnecessary. Which kind of lines up with most of the nation's actions currently...so I suppose the change will occur swiftly.

 

[TheRealJoey]

I guess I'm confused at why a change would be necessary. The school district personnel were contacted. They are mandated reporters. If, by some wild stretch of the imagination, MSHSAA were the only people contacted, they SOP is to immediately contact the school district (the mandated reporter). Seems completely unnecessary. Which kind of lines up with most of the nation's actions currently...so I suppose the change will occur swiftly.

Well, another thing to complain about MSHSAA...valid or not. Since they are forcing everyone to pay $8.55 for a ticket to games and they have to be bought in advance. The media doing what they do, a four year old story and bout a coach that is already dead, and a problem that really isn't a problem.

 

[Missouri Kid]

I guess I'm confused at why a change would be necessary. The school district personnel were contacted. They are mandated reporters. If, by some wild stretch of the imagination, MSHSAA were the only people contacted, they SOP is to immediately contact the school district (the mandated reporter). Seems completely unnecessary. Which kind of lines up with most of the nation's actions currently...so I suppose the change will occur swiftly.

You nailed it, its already covered. We have laws on top of laws until it is like a spider web. I have become a libertarian in my declining years. We need fewer laws and more common sense.

 

[Missouri Kid]

Well, another thing to complain about MSHSAA...valid or not. Since they are forcing everyone to pay $8.55 for a ticket to games and they have to be bought in advance. The media doing what they do, a four year old story and bout a coach that is already dead, and a problem that really isn't a problem.

You are right, well summarized, a problem that isn't a problem. Things like this article happen because we don't have journalists any more We just have hacks looking to be the focal point of the $hit stirring.

 

[The Last Black Man In Missouri]

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[TheRealJoey]

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[J. Kane]