That's a pretty lofty assumption on your part, and one that I would disagree exists.
Why does NCAA D1 teams like Mizzou and others don't recruit in smaller public high school ?
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Has he gone to any camps the past two summers? Don’t answer unless you actually know.
what are you disagreeing with????????? Im providing you facts????????????
I have an example, do you have an example of a Highly recruited public school Sophomore who caught 5 balls over 14 games getting SEC Offers??????
he wouldnt had been in that spotlight if he never went to Trinity Catholic. Its really nothing to dispute here guys.
What I'm trying to tell him is that there is no "benefit of the doubt" factor in recruiting. The fact that there was a good player that came from the school in the past doesn't increase the likelihood that there will be another in the future. You seem to be looking for someone to argue with, BP. Sorry, I'm not your guy. From reading your posts over the past few months, I know that you don't know shit. I'm sure not going to argue with you.
Part of the answer to the question is this:
College coaches only have so much time and resources to evaluate players. They like creating pipelines to large schools because they know they will mostly likely have a revolving door of talent year after year. DI schools aren't going to waste time and money looking at small schools because they know those schools may only produce 1 or 2 DI level players every so often. It's more a law of averages.
College coaches only have so much time and resources to evaluate players. They like creating pipelines to large schools because they know they will mostly likely have a revolving door of talent year after year. DI schools aren't going to waste time and money looking at small schools because they know those schools may only produce 1 or 2 DI level players every so often. It's more a law of averages.
I just provided you with overwhelming circumstantial evidence this this Player was offered scholarships in good faith. He had 5 catches on the season. He had no film. It was Feb 2019 so he'd yet to hit the Summer Camps.
So while of course we dont know FOR SURE I sure have an example for my argument. You have no example saying that kids that go to Ava with 5 catches are getting SEC offers.
Its hard to argue when you are just talking with no example to back it up. You seem not to know much about recruiting at all. BIG Schools 100% go to certain High Schools who are known for producing D1 talent and gives their kids benefit of the doubt. Every kid with an offer doesnt deserve it.
Its politics in recruiting just like with anything else.
of course Duck. But Im speaking on the Privates in this situation.
it was Feb 2019 before any college camps or 7v7s.
Like I said we don’t exactly what happens but this FEELS like he’s getting benefit of the Doubt because he’s a 6’3 WR who wears #2 for Trinity.
what else could possibly be the reason? No other varsity experience in any other sport either.
Im simply using logic, I dont know whats hard to follow about this
Could be a relationship between the HC and recruiter. Or another coach in the area who is familiar with the kid and the recruiter. Or a different third party and the recruiter.
Send the video to Coach Sims at MOSO. He's looking for good talent to turn the program around.
The video is often versus inferior talent..so it's hard to get a gauge on how good they really are.
You are correct small town players can go to camps to help their cause.
You don't need to but it makes it easier for D-1 coaches to evaluate them versus other top caliber talent, plus recruiters can consolidate their resources and evaluate multiple players at once on film and in person. Even going to camps on a P5 campus might not elevate a Small school player if the Coaches are focused on already known Top flight talent.
Going to a loaded Private school like LN/Trinity etc. is a advantage in getting noticed scholarship wise. Sure Going to camps can help as a I stated but even then a lot of coaches will be skeptical in taking a Small school player unless he is such a elite physical talent you can't pass him up.
Let's say you have a 6'2 185 pound WR from LN Run's a 4.5 forty,4.3 shuttle and decent hands and plays against top flight Private talent. That Kid will get P5 offers.
Now a player plays in the SCA for Ava with exactly the same speed,height etc...even goes to Camps and sends video. Does he get P5 offers? Maybe, Maybe not, might be a Preferred walk-on type or a back up plan if their first,and second choices fall thru, but more likely some G5 offers or FCS type schollie getter.
Location,Location and Location does matter.
Joplin has one good season in 30 years and it's made the fans delusional all season. Dude was pretty good against a bunch of average teams and that's about it.
Lets not be a grown Adult hater (like most here), he had one of the best Careers in SWMO history and the best WR in his schools history. He's such an excellent player that he's still committed D1 to an FCS school. I was just explaining why he didnt go power 5.
Man, I don't know what Joplin ever did to you, but you go out of your way to dump on them in nearly every post you make.
Westmoreland had 12 receptions 194 yards and 2 TD's against the best CB tandem in the state, who happen to play for the best team in the state, De Smet. He had 179 total yards and 2 TD's against the #3 team in the state, Webb CIty. He also had 9 receptions 142 yards and 2 TD's against your team.
Question is will Lutheran North ever have a Grant Wistrom? How about an Adam Spieker? Believe he still has the record for starts at Missouri. WEBB has had a decent number the last 15-20 years go D1. Both in Football and Baseball and why not, Softball as well.
MU had kids play from Braymer, Bethany, King City back in the day. If the HC has a connection that helps.
Steve Atwater was good but he played QB at LN and didn’t win a championship in high school or college. Grant was a 2 time Class 4 Champion at WEBB. First team All American by USA Today, and top 100 high school player by scholastic. 3 time National Champion at Nebraska, 2 time first team All American and winner of the Lombardi Award as the Nations best lineman. Played in 2 Super Bowls winning one..
Most colleges don't recruit Offensive Players who play in Wing/Double Wing T systems. There are some small school conferences where most of the schools have these gimmick offenses so it's even hard to recruit defensive players based on their skills playing AGAINST the wing.
You hardly see any large or private school use gimmick offenses. Most have all converted to some variation of Spread Offense.
You hardly see any large or private school use gimmick offenses. Most have all converted to some variation of Spread Offense.
If I had a week I still couldn't list all the reasons that's wrong.
So college's ARE recruiting Offensive players from small schools in Missouri running wing offenses? The argument is why aren't small PUBLIC schools being recruited by major D1 programs. I have shared my knowledge of understanding (not really opinion). If you know of tons of kids being recruited from these schools please share. You might be able to debunk this entire thread.
Your original post said nothing about Missouri, just that kids weren't getting recruited from schools that run Wing-T/Double Wing. I can give two examples off the top of my head from the state of Washington that say otherwise, if I cared to really delve into it I guarantee there are a lot of kids from Wing offenses that play D1.
LN ran the Wing T last year and have for a long time, they had a ton of kids go D1
Not usually for offense. Most kids being recruited out of LN are Defensive players. Again, this thread wasn't about Lutheran North athletes. It was small PUBLIC school ball.
I get that the Wing formations have been a while.
But the sport of football has evolved and so should the coaches and offenses. You barely even see the I-Formation in football anymore. Things change!
I also know enough about the system to understand that it is the type of offense that you use when you in fact DO NOT have big lineman and or very fast players at your skilled positions. So just because a kid rushes for 2,000 yards and racks up statistical numbers in a wing offense does not mean that he can play D1 HIGH LEVEL football. It's a different style of FB.
I would call Lamar's spinner offense a 'gimmick' offense because it's so rare. Wing T is standard fare in small school HSFB.
Single Wing is a gimmick ? It has been incorporated into the spread offense for years now...
Small schools just aren’t known for producing D1 athletes. Nothing we all aren’t aware of.
Out of all of this, one thing is for certain.....we need to have a resurgence of the I-formation.
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