Too many of these names are on the list because of MU ties. They wouldn't be candidates at any other place in the Power 5 if not for the MU ties. Which, IMO, isn't exactly a recipe for hiring a HC.
Who would you like as the next Mizzou head coach?
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I'm not so sure. CGP did a great job of actually promoting the program to prospective players the way he backed his players and team during recent campus events that had nothing to do with football.
JoeyNorthlandoKCMO
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My thinking is like this...prospective player is deciding between Missouri, Arkansas, and Nebraska... Nebraska recruiter: "They have issues down at Mizzour-uh...I mean some racist stuff goin' on down there. I don't know?"(shakes head.) Recruit: "Hmmm? racists?"
As far as talent in the recruiting area, yes. But that is balanced out by the number of schools recruiting heavily in the area. Almost ever school in the country has a recruiter in charge of the Miami area, and a recruiter in charge of the Midwest.
Potential for great classes is higher at Miami though, youre right.
Nebraska and arkansas are bastions of diversity.
I guess that all depends on what you consider a base. Miami is in FL, sure. But they're also behind UF and FSU. Sorta like TTU was under Leach. Smack in the middle of Texas (ok, Lubbock isn't the middle, but you get my point), but lose players to aTm and Texas. They were, at best, the third choice. Much like the U is now. Again, it's not 1988. MU has STL and KC. And being in the SEC obviously opens the south, and they've still got the Texas ties. Not the premier school in the markets outside MO, but they're in those places. Again, not saying MU is superior to it. Just not sure the difference is what some think it is when you remember the U isn't really the U anymore. And lets face it, even theough the MU honks do wear out the SEC thing, it's certainly a recruiting tool and advantage.
Mizzou RAH recruiter, "We are definitely racist at MU. We love African American student athletes. They excel on the field and in the classroom. And, we send several to the NFL each year. Ever heard the names Maclin, Smith, Hood, Moore, Weatherspoon? We even like gay African American athletes like Michael Sam. Remember him?"
Recruit: "Oh...ya...I guess you guy do like diversity."
JoeyNorthlandoKCMO
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So Black Lives Matter are staging protests at those schools too? I missed that? President resigned? Missed that too.
JoeyNorthlandoKCMO
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My Choice:
Barry Odom.
*Played at Missouri- came back to Missouri- Proven Winner.
Barry Odom.
*Played at Missouri- came back to Missouri- Proven Winner.
I like his defense for sure. Reminds me of those defenses under Dan Devine. It allowed us to pull off some shockers over the years.
I agree, think Odom has earned a shot at least. Plus that would keep consistency in Columbia for the time being. No one loved Pinkel if memory serves me correctly, give Odom a few years and see what he can do.
For a guy who has one year experience in a Power 5 conference as a coordinator, and four overall, I'd like to see more experience. Take a look at Power 5 hires. Not many coordinators get those jobs, at least not jobs as attractive as MU. Granted, most hires are gambles, so Odom could be really good as a HC. But he could also be really bad. I'd rather see someone proven in a lesser job. Fuente, Herman, Niumatalolo, and Hudspeth come to mind immediately. But if MU decides to go the coordinator route, hard to imagine it wouldn't be Odom.
I like the guy from Houston. He was the OC at Ohio State when they won the title. So he should bring a good offense with him and that's what we need. I don't want to lose our defensive guys though. That would hurt. If that was to happen, do you think he would keep Odom and the other defensive guys or bring in his own people?
Are you talking about Mel Tjeerdsma? He won 3 national titles there and had 4 runner-up finishes, but retired in 2010 from coaching and is the AD at NW MO St.
He did get offered the HC job at Sam Houston St. When Willie Fritz took the Georgia Southern job, but the president came in and overruled the AD and Search Comittee as he was packing to fly back down and sign the contract.. So he may not be completely retired lol
I'd bet almost anything, Odom will be a HC somewhere next season. If not at MU, he'll get a non-Power 5 job.
Although Herman's experience as a HC doesn't really sway me. It was for 1 year with none of his players.
Odom wouldn't be bad. The problem with that is he'd keep Henson. I can't tell if Henson is a good OC or not. I just think we need some sort of change to the offense. I like the spread but maybe change up the scheme a little bit.
Yup. Couldn't stand his thought process. We have QBs who are 10-15 yard passers.......so let's chuck it for 45 yards every play
Forget the top level runnings backs in the backfield, just keep chucking those INT.
Is everyone forgetting about Stefan Djordjevic? If he got all his Ampipe buddies together.....just imagine the program that staff could build! What about Coach Nickerson himself? He already has college AND professional coaching experience........
Best case realistic scenarios,
A. Hire Fuente, retain Odom as DC.
B. Hire Herman, potentially lose Odom and promote Kuligowski to DC.
C. Hire Willie Fritz
D. Make a run at Paul Johnson.
A. Hire Fuente, retain Odom as DC.
B. Hire Herman, potentially lose Odom and promote Kuligowski to DC.
C. Hire Willie Fritz
D. Make a run at Paul Johnson.
I think patterson and herman are the top two targets and Mizzou has the money to throw at them
I think that A. is a wise choice. Not only retain Odom, but Kulogowski and as many of the defensive assistants as possible. Let Fuentes hire is own OC and additional coaching staff on that side of the ball. He might want to retain Andy Hill for recruiting purposes.
I will not miss Pinkel's offensive scheme... IMO it's been time for that to go for quite awhile.
Barry Odom would be great hire. He is well respected a Defensive Coordinator, Memphis will hire him if Fuente leaves as expected, and he played at Missouri and part of that family of players. He would also keep some of the defensive coaches and keep that part of the Missouri game going. There would also be some consistency with recruiting and not have this year a total loss.
That makes me giggle. Would be a huge get, for sure. But I'd say it's about as likely as me landing Sarah Hyland.
Hell no. He is in arguably the best state for recruiting. He makes more at TCU than Pinkel does at Mizzou. (According to this site. http://www.coacheshotseat.com/SalariesContracts.htm).
The alumni at TCU (very deep pockets) will do whatever it takes to keep Patterson there. He can recruit with the big boys down there. Why would he move ?
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