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What year was the turbo clock instituted in mo hs basketball?

An infinitely better question might be why would a kid scoring a bunch of points be on the court in the fourth quarter of a game with a 30+ point spread ?

Here's a radical thought — schedule better opponents and you have fewer turbo clock games..
 
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An infinitely better question might be why would a kid scoring a bunch of points be on the court in the fourth quarter of a game with a 30+ point spread ?

Here's a radical thought — schedule better opponents and you have fewer turbo clock games..
Sometimes you cannot help it if they are a conference schools and you have to play them. I know some teams do not participate ion conference tournaments because of that fact at times.
 
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no disrespect intended, and starters coming out properly, just curious as to the history.
It was used from 1998-2001, not used in varsity games from 2001-2003, and reinstated in 2003.

Having spent most of my career at schools whose basketball teams struggled, I am strongly opposed to the turbo clock. Obviously, star players should not be playing in the fourth quarter with 50-point leads. I have several concerns. First, it takes playing time away from the last players on the bench--the blowout games should be their chance to shine. Second, I have seen teams with big leads commit fouls just to run out the clock. (I might be more sold if the clock at least stopped on fouls, especially with free throws.) Also, it seems that there are more 30-point blowouts than ever before--maybe the turbo clock should have started at 50. If we are going to have a turbo clock, it should be rare.

Perhaps I'm in the minority here, but if my team is going to lose by 40, I find 90-50 a lot less embarrassing than 60-20. At least if you score 50, there were probably some positives.

Somewhat related, I am concerned about the future of HS basketball, at least in the St. Louis area. It seems that the gap between the good and bad teams is widening and more and more games are becoming slaughters. I don't see that many games decided by single-digit margins these days--instead, I see more and more turbo clocks (and boys teams getting held under 20 points).
 
If you are talking about team scoring records, I can see where it would make a difference. Not sure it makes a ton of difference with individual records(but it could). The 3 pt shot is a whole different story, but that actually affects the reverse way from what you where you were going.
 
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It was used from 1998-2001, not used in varsity games from 2001-2003, and reinstated in 2003.

Having spent most of my career at schools whose basketball teams struggled, I am strongly opposed to the turbo clock. Obviously, star players should not be playing in the fourth quarter with 50-point leads. I have several concerns. First, it takes playing time away from the last players on the bench--the blowout games should be their chance to shine. Second, I have seen teams with big leads commit fouls just to run out the clock. (I might be more sold if the clock at least stopped on fouls, especially with free throws.) Also, it seems that there are more 30-point blowouts than ever before--maybe the turbo clock should have started at 50. If we are going to have a turbo clock, it should be rare.

Perhaps I'm in the minority here, but if my team is going to lose by 40, I find 90-50 a lot less embarrassing than 60-20. At least if you score 50, there were probably some positives.

Somewhat related, I am concerned about the future of HS basketball, at least in the St. Louis area. It seems that the gap between the good and bad teams is widening and more and more games are becoming slaughters. I don't see that many games decided by single-digit margins these days--instead, I see more and more turbo clocks (and boys teams getting held under 20 points).

I agree with a lot of this.

Not necessarily the point being made here, but I have never understood why we allow the rules of the game to be dictated and directed by those who aren’t very good at playing the game.

It seems like the turbo clock was implemented specifically so bad teams could avoid embarrassment.

And in a sport where there is no shot clock, the losing team can run up the white flag at any time. Get the ball across half court and stand there with it if you’re done playing.

If the opposing team doesn’t allow the losing team to do that, then we have a problem that needs to be addressed.

If everyone agrees to keep playing then keep playing and stop crying.

Way too much crying and an overemphasis on everyone’s feelings in high school sports these days. If you’re prone to having your feelings hurt then don’t play, coach, watch or attend and you’ll be fine.
 
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It was used from 1998-2001, not used in varsity games from 2001-2003, and reinstated in 2003.

Having spent most of my career at schools whose basketball teams struggled, I am strongly opposed to the turbo clock. Obviously, star players should not be playing in the fourth quarter with 50-point leads. I have several concerns. First, it takes playing time away from the last players on the bench--the blowout games should be their chance to shine. Second, I have seen teams with big leads commit fouls just to run out the clock. (I might be more sold if the clock at least stopped on fouls, especially with free throws.) Also, it seems that there are more 30-point blowouts than ever before--maybe the turbo clock should have started at 50. If we are going to have a turbo clock, it should be rare.

Perhaps I'm in the minority here, but if my team is going to lose by 40, I find 90-50 a lot less embarrassing than 60-20. At least if you score 50, there were probably some positives.

Somewhat related, I am concerned about the future of HS basketball, at least in the St. Louis area. It seems that the gap between the good and bad teams is widening and more and more games are becoming slaughters. I don't see that many games decided by single-digit margins these days--instead, I see more and more turbo clocks (and boys teams getting held under 20 points).
1. I agree star players should not be in during blo outs.
2. The last players on the bench have usually played 4 quarters of JV ball the game before.
Not just the kids foul, but officials will call more so time runs off the clock during turbo clocks.
3. Gap is widening because A. Kids put in a lot more time in the off season where alot of kids do not.
B. Kids are moving to play with their summer teammates and leaving schools without their top players
 
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1. I agree star players should not be in during blo outs.
2. The last players on the bench have usually played 4 quarters of JV ball the game before.
Not just the kids foul, but officials will call more so time runs off the clock during turbo clocks.
3. Gap is widening because A. Kids put in a lot more time in the off season where alot of kids do not.
B. Kids are moving to play with their summer teammates and leaving schools without their top players
All good explanations.
 
1. I agree star players should not be in during blowouts.
2. The last players on the bench have usually played 4 quarters of JV ball the game before.
Not just the kids foul, but officials will call more so time runs off the clock during turbo clocks.
3. Gap is widening because A. Kids put in a lot more time in the off season where a lot of kids do not.
B. Kids are moving to play with their summer teammates and leaving schools without their top players

I mostly agree with you, except on point #2. Many times the last players off the bench are seniors who have worked hard for 4 years, but just aren't that good. They may have good work ethic, just not the skills to do more than mop up blowouts. These players are often fan favorites.

Point 3B is a serious problem. The transferring situation is out of control and even worse in football. When five players from different high schools all announce they are transferring to East St. Louis on the same day (as happened last summer in football), something smells.
 
I mostly agree with you, except on point #2. Many times the last players off the bench are seniors who have worked hard for 4 years, but just aren't that good. They may have good work ethic, just not the skills to do more than mop up blowouts. These players are often fan favorites.

Point 3B is a serious problem. The transferring situation is out of control and even worse in football. When five players from different high schools all announce they are transferring to East St. Louis on the same day (as happened last summer in football), something smells.
Regarding the seniors, I have talked with my seniors and gave them the option to play JV to develop if needed to help down the stretch. Most do not want that. I have had a few that done so and ended up helping late in the season. The ones that do not want that, i tell them straight up playing time will be very limited, but the expectations were the same as others. Never really had any problems with it.
 
Regarding the seniors, I have talked with my seniors and gave them the option to play JV to develop if needed to help down the stretch. Most do not want that. I have had a few that done so and ended up helping late in the season. The ones that do not want that, i tell them straight up playing time will be very limited, but the expectations were the same as others. Never really had any problems with it.
I'm not sure that playing seniors in JV games is an option in many conferences. The Suburban West did not allow juniors in JV games until about 10 years ago, which put Northwest at a disadvantage when playing Jefferson and Franklin County schools.
 
I'm not sure that playing seniors in JV games is an option in many conferences. The Suburban West did not allow juniors in JV games until about 10 years ago, which put Northwest at a disadvantage when playing Jefferson and Franklin County schools.
I have not seen one written rule about who can play in a JV game in a conference.
 
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