There is no way a public high school can win 15 State Championships since 1989 without a little special help, I mean recruiting.
Webb City Recruits Everyone Knows. Prove Me Wrong!
- Thread starter Mr Goldtooth
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Right but it works, there are enough loopholes to do it legally, and no one it stopping it.
If a program is good it recruits itself. It also helps having one of the greatest coaches to ever walk the sideline. Not buying it that they recruit as alluded to on this site.
Hey Goldoof, it's 16
If don't believe they recruit, then you must also believe that we actually landed on the moon in 1969 and the Illuminati doesn't exist!
OHHHHHHHHHH to have this much time on my hands..................
I think the prevailing opinion is that if someone wants to win that badly...let them lol. It is just high school sports.
People move to communities because of athletics, academics, quality of life etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.
Quality of life? Have you ever been to Webb City? That place is isn't that GREAT. I know first hand I lived there.
Those were SEPARATE reasons for moving somewhere. Is isn't.............is this a cryptic answer?
Someone had to resort to their forgotten 2019 account.
Everyone says they recruit and have for years. I was there forever and the suggestion, at least back then seemed laughable. I don't know now. I hear a lot of weird stuff from my friends who teach/coach/parent there now. I think it's mostly people in the community coaches etc that know other families casually suggesting 'hey you really outta be playing your son here if you want whats best for his athletic future'. You could call that recruiting but I see it more as people saying come on in the water is fine!
Back then Webb City football was similar to what I see in Carthage football now (minus having a dynasty next door). Always good but not extraordinarily deep at every position every year. Some years there would be a viable path to state but many years they were just the team to beat in this area and that was it.
I do believe strongly that move-ins, recruited or not, are an increasingly important part of sustaining their game and what took them from the old Webb that I described to one that wins 8 straight titles or whatever and gets the attention of USA today. Not to diminish Coach Rod, he is extraordinary, and a huge part of why kids move there in the first place, but I doubt even he could win state in Seneca or wherever each and every year with only Seneca natives and with holes left by kids that transferred out to other nearby schools.
Back then Webb City football was similar to what I see in Carthage football now (minus having a dynasty next door). Always good but not extraordinarily deep at every position every year. Some years there would be a viable path to state but many years they were just the team to beat in this area and that was it.
I do believe strongly that move-ins, recruited or not, are an increasingly important part of sustaining their game and what took them from the old Webb that I described to one that wins 8 straight titles or whatever and gets the attention of USA today. Not to diminish Coach Rod, he is extraordinary, and a huge part of why kids move there in the first place, but I doubt even he could win state in Seneca or wherever each and every year with only Seneca natives and with holes left by kids that transferred out to other nearby schools.
Great point about coaches winning in other settings.
Show me where someone has left a 'juggernaut' program and won big again.
Especially private schools.
Kurt Thompson did ok at Kickapoo but didn't come close to replicating Webb and that is with access to basically every kid in Springfield.
Dr Bouchard seems to have done well at Harrisonville, Staley and MICDS so far, and its borderline impossible to get into MICDS, so he isn't recruiting there
MICDS by it's very nature is classified lower than it should be due to the ability to limit who enrolls.
Probably one of the best coaches in MO History though.
Now let's see someone go from private to public and win win win.
The private Class 1 that could not be beat was moved up. Time to move along to the next excuse.
So you don't have an example of a dominant coach moving from a private school and having the same results at a public school?
Thanks.
The amount of people pro private have nothing. Years to come up with some kind of argument that’s rational and makes sense. Nothing still.
I know of a few successful coaches that went from Public great teams to not so very good private teams though! Must have been bad recruiters is all I know! LOL
I don't get your statment on the ability to limit who enrolls and how that effects anything. The process to even attend JBS, SLUH, and MICDS is harder than attending most colleges.
So MICDS and JBS keeping their class size smaller is to gain an advantage in sports?
Its cute you think their admissions even cares about that, at all.
You're naive if you don't think those schools don't consider athletic ability when they allow only certain kids in.
They don't keep their class sizes smaller to gain advantage; It just happens that way.
Coach Rulo comes to mind. Had very good teams at South Callaway and not so good teams at Helias. Now he has Russellville's new program at 2-0 I believe.
Let me tell you a personal story, I have 2 kids, both tried to get into MICDS, the one that had all the athletic ability did poorly on the entrance exam and the interview. In retrospect they wouldn’t have made it MICDS. My other kid, who had below average athletic ability got in and did wonderfully.
So I know from personal experience my one child’s ability to be good at football didn’t even come into scope in the admissions process, and he went on to play at a public school.
so when you say you know that happens, I can tell you it doesn’t.
You're not listening.
Football is just another skill like playing the trumpet or debate. Quality private schools take these things into account to enrich the overall school experience.
I'm not saying they get in with a 65 IQ because they are football players.
All the variables are taken into account.
Do you suppose that some of them might stay in public schools for retirement purposes?
I’m telling you I have gone through the process, MICDS, JBS do not care. They want you to do well on entrance exam, interview well, play an instrument helps, sports doesn’t.
you’re not listening.
Im specifically talking about MICDS and JBS.
I'm talking about the other way.
Taking a private school to success then moving to a public school and having similar results.
