Two immigrants for every one job created since 2000
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Part of the problem is most of the immigrants I've had dealings with, are not afraid of work and will hit it running.
A few thoughts:
- The first big gotcha in this data - 18 million "new immigrants" living in the US. Notice he didn't say "change in the immigrant population" was 18 million. The author intentionally ignores the fact that 6 million immigrants left during this time frame - there are only 12 million net new immigrants.
- The author has a second overstatement - they discuss the change in the total overall immigrant population of all ages versus the change in the jobs data. The author needs to strip out kids and seniors from the immigrant count to show the actual net change in the working age population of immigrants. That would move the number even lower.
Other notes:
- This is really a story of legal immigration, not illegal immigration for the most part
- They have cherrypicked the points in time, as is noted by cowherd
- Picking the age range 16-65 as the labor force is another way they biased the data. Better analysis would focus on the core of the labor force (ages 25-54 or so); in this age range, nearly everyone is out of school and nearly everyone has not yet retired. It's important to understand the other pieces but the main focus really should be on that age group. This is the core labor force of the US where there's really no reason for the labor participation rate to decline.
- The first big gotcha in this data - 18 million "new immigrants" living in the US. Notice he didn't say "change in the immigrant population" was 18 million. The author intentionally ignores the fact that 6 million immigrants left during this time frame - there are only 12 million net new immigrants.
- The author has a second overstatement - they discuss the change in the total overall immigrant population of all ages versus the change in the jobs data. The author needs to strip out kids and seniors from the immigrant count to show the actual net change in the working age population of immigrants. That would move the number even lower.
Other notes:
- This is really a story of legal immigration, not illegal immigration for the most part
- They have cherrypicked the points in time, as is noted by cowherd
- Picking the age range 16-65 as the labor force is another way they biased the data. Better analysis would focus on the core of the labor force (ages 25-54 or so); in this age range, nearly everyone is out of school and nearly everyone has not yet retired. It's important to understand the other pieces but the main focus really should be on that age group. This is the core labor force of the US where there's really no reason for the labor participation rate to decline.
And why is this a bad thing? I think it must mean that immigrants are either more qualified or more willing to do work than natural born Americans. Isn't that a "you" problem?
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Where are all these jobs for these "free loaders ... who refuse to work?" Why don't you get the corporate free loaders, who don't pay any taxes, to create more jobs? Oh that's ok, greed is good. Glad you are consistent about free loaders.
There are jobs. Had a buddy that offered 15 per hour hanging solar panels. Not hard work. He put ads in 2 papers and on an internet county bulletin board. Also, in the local area that the work was being done at. Got 2 phone calls. One that had a bad back and could only do it if he had plenty of time to rest and one that was unemployed but said that $15 was not enough money. They should have cut off every welfare check in the county.
Ya, that was actually two different thoughts. 1). People are lazy and don't want to work. I wish unemployment could do a better job of knowing what jobs were available and matching it to those on unemployment. I realize that would cost more. 2). While it was a slight exaggeration on cutting off every welfare check, any body that was physically able that is on welfare should have been applying for this job or lose their benefits.
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