So WEBB beating the ROCK in KC 40-14. And the ROCK going 12-2 and losing to CBC in the Class 6 finals 31-24 and WEBB going undefeated and winning state by 24 points your going to tell me WEBB couldn’t be considered the best in State because they were Class 4?
To recap . Webb City 35 Ladue 0. Carthage 20 North 17 . Cassville 13- for real 0 . DeSmet 35-20
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So WEBB beating the ROCK in KC 40-14. And the ROCK going 12-2 and losing to CBC in the Class 6 finals 31-24 and WEBB going undefeated and winning state by 24 points your going to tell me WEBB couldn’t be considered the best in State because they were Class 4?
They will be solidly in Class 5 next year with the new process.
The Webb team in that year was the best team in the state.
Yes that year 2016 (I think) you could consider them the best or top 3 easily.
But Class 4 now is Meh. Like I think Maryville, Lutheran North. Cardinal Ritter, Trinity, Blair Oaks the Prime Lamar years etc any given year are better than whoever Webb plays for the Class 4 title.
Class 4 isn’t difficult.
i was at that game in 2012. great game in the rain. har ber was big and fast but no where near as dominant as CBC. wc just wore down harbor. that poor front 7 of har ber didnt know where the ball was going same as that at rockhurst win.
Im not even disagreeing. Webb could very well be the best team ever year. But we never get to see them tested in Class 4 because thats the class with the least good programs in the State.
This is almost laughable. A) WEBB plays very few Class 4 teams in regular season/conference. WEBB had always played up a couple games every year until we joined the COC and had to many conference games. Jeff City, ROCK, Rockbridge, Rogers Ark, Springdale Harber etc..To say they never faced teams like Desmet, please..
I think year in year out, the best two teams in Class 4 thru 6 would all be competitive games against each other. I won’t say the two in the Championship game but out of the top four in the three classes. To many times the Championship game is decided in the semis. But to pull out one year like CBC last year as a talking point is crazy. As many good teams as WEBB, Kearney, Staley, Fort O etc have had to say automatically the Class 6 champ is always the best isn’t correct..
Aren't there several teams ahead of WC in class 4 with more students. I think it will still be a couple of years. I would welcome getting to play class 5.
This is either WAY over my head or I want some of what your having!!
WORD. Discipline and heart. And some pretty damn good coaching goes a long way...
Class 5 will no longer be the catch all. Top 32 are Class 6. Bottom 64 are Class 1. Remaining schools are to be split as even as possible in the remaining classes. Somewhere around 57 per class. That will move Webb into Class 5 for the foreseeable future.
I couldn’t let the last statement go. Facts are facts. While there are references out there to Joplin not beating Webb City in 3 decades and that is true, however, they have only played five times (counting this year) in that time frame. Joplin has lost 3 and won 2 of those games. They have played 3 times prior to 1990, dating back to 1941, with Joplin teams winning all three of those games. Joplin and Webb City just don't play that often but it is a very even series when they do meet on the field. Overall series is 10-6 in Joplin’s favor.
They have only played twice, Rockhurst didn't win either game. Have another drink....
Does Weathers not run track? Zach isn't known as a speedy WR, but he isn't slow and he and Isaiah are definitely better than Kabala. Here are the 100m results from this year's Webb City Invitational:
Mens New Division 100 Meters
Finals
1. SR DaRon Morgan 11.06a Joplin
2. JR Matthew Kellerstrass 11.25a Glendale
3. JR Zach Middleton 11.29a Bishop Kelley
4. JR Chase Christensen 11.35a PR Willard
5. JR Zach Westmoreland 11.38a PR Joplin
6. FR Deverin King 11.41a PR Glendale
7. SO Nathan Glades 11.43a Joplin
8. JR Jedidiah Brandon 11.45a Willard
9. SR Kane Parks 11.46a Webb City
10. JR Corieon Lewis 11.59a PR Bishop Kelley
No, we're telling you that because Webb City lost multiple games.
WC went undefeated that season and almost turbo clocked the state runner up (Rockhurst) who lost to CBC by a TD that came down to the last minute. I don’t think anyone apart from CBC who was also very good was all that close that year.
So no, being Class 4 made no difference that year.
Can't believe a thread that originally was only tangentially related to Webb City has devolved into this 
I did just wanna say that I agree with the post above that said most years there is much more separation between C4-C6 than there is between C2-C4. Which is to say the top teams in C2 and C3 would compete far better in C4 than the top C4 teams would compete in C6. The matchup I always wanted to see the most during the Lamar heyday was Lamar vs. Webb. I think there were probably some Lamar teams from this past decade who could've really made a game of it.
I did just wanna say that I agree with the post above that said most years there is much more separation between C4-C6 than there is between C2-C4. Which is to say the top teams in C2 and C3 would compete far better in C4 than the top C4 teams would compete in C6. The matchup I always wanted to see the most during the Lamar heyday was Lamar vs. Webb. I think there were probably some Lamar teams from this past decade who could've really made a game of it.
Not sure how you do that math....Both teams play basically the same schedule. It appears that Joplin starters play a lot more than Webb's, Joplin has given up something like 147 more points against them than WC this year so they had to play their starters longer. Davis averaged 9.1 yards/carry (2283 carries), while kabala 9.5/1041 carries and Weathers 9.1/1334 carries. Sounds like all 3 are pretty similar, Davis just gets the ball just about as much as both of Webb's starters combined. Can't hold that against Webb's backs for not getting to play as much when both teams are playing basically the same schedule. Hard to say any one is any better than the other two.
Yes but when in doubt I tend to lead to the guy who's 230lbs, headed to a Division 1 school to play running back, setting school records, and you know RAN FOR 45 TOUCHDOWNS this year.
see video below please:
His weight makes him a better back? Not necessarily. School records are biased according to how many carries a back gets based on the offensive system being ran that particular year. Seneca used to have backs with thousands of yards each year back in the 80's... but they gave it to him practically every down.... With all those advantages you listed, shouldn't his yard/carry be higher? At least higher than the Webb's backs? I'm not saying he isn't a great back, but hard to say he better when his numbers don't really reflect it considering they play the same schedule.
Im just saying its hard to compare when playing time is obviously a factor. Joplin outscored WC by only 54 points but gave up 147 more than WC. So, it would seem that Joplin starters had to play more minutes, getting more carries, etc. which would have a huge impact on school records and things like that making a comparison hard.
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Im not using numbers or usage to why I think and the general public outside of Webb City thinks he's better.
Its the EYE BALL test. None of the 3 are burners but He's the bigger stronger and more physical runner He can handle the beating year in and year out. Weathers has been hurt many times.
So assuming he can take the same workload and be just as effective may not be true.
Also because they are from the same area and one is being recruited to play Division 1 football and the other 2 are not is telling as well. This is also a SWMO argument only. All 3 Desmet RBs are better than all of these backs.
I hear what you are saying, and can understand that view to some degree. Lets take Kabala for example. Considering he was an all state D-back and one of their top receivers last year, then moves to running back and averages as many yards per carry as Davis against all the same teams, it would seem like it could be argued that he was just as good of a player as Davis. Regardless, I think they are all 3 great backs, and It's great to see Joplin winning, and great to see their program thriving after so many years of struggling. Great to see so many SWMO teams doing well this year.
Laughable post for the most part. I will agree with the title game statement however. Most years the true championship game (2 best teams in class) has been played in the semis, quarters, or even arguably a district matchup a couple of years in the past. A lot of past title games have been snoozers against teams that would have a hard time getting to host a first round district game in WC’s district or that certain district up north of KC.
Are all 3 going D1in Football as a running back? I mean since is the standard that means you are a good high school running back!
Yes all 3 have Power 5 offers. And no Recruiting isnt the only factor but its one of the factors.
In HS its so many blow outs and inferior opponents that you cant solely go off stats. You have to go off eye ball test and usually Recruiting can valid what you see with your eyes. If a Guy has more physical gifts and the stats are even, competition is even etc. most people usually site with the player with more physical gifts
These current NFL players disagree with your statement:
Beau Brinkly (of the NFL Titans), Kearney, MO Bulldogs
Will Compton (of the Oakland Raider) North County HS
Xavier Williams ( of the KC Chiefs) Grandview, MO Bulldogs
Drew Lock (of the Denver Bronos) Lee's Summit Tiger
Devonte Bausby (of the Denver Broncos) Hogan Prep
Even Boehm ( of the Miami Dolphins) Lee's Summit Tiger
Charles Harris (of the Miami Dolphins) Lincoln Prep, Blue Tiger
And three time NCAA D1 National Champ, and Super Bowl Champion, Grant Wistrom (Webb City Cardinal) just called to laugh as well.
All Classes:
2012 Webb #4
2013 Webb #4
2014 Webb #1
2015 Webb #5 Lost to Kearney in the finals.
just wondering why the WEBB CITY Undefeated Championship teams of 2010 and 2011 aren’t included in the list?
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