The Changes Chuba Hubbard Wanted...

[Veerman_12]

That's right folks, throwing a twitter temper tantrum against his coach because he wanted the "right" to listen to music that degrades women.

Gundy was obviously a racist hate monger for wanting his players to publicly respect women and not listen to music that perpetuates the N-word. Terrible man, he should be fired...

The left is an unfunny joke.

 

[kaskaskiakid]

Now wait a minute....It's the dems fault because a repub college football coach let a 20 yr old walk all over him????????? You're the joke!!

 

[Veerman_12]

Now wait a minute....It's the dems fault because a repub college football coach let a 20 yr old walk all over him????????? You're the joke!!

Yep. If he fought back at all the media (left wing propaganda machine) would crucify him and he would have lost his job.

Don't respond, I'm not interested in what you have to say.

 

[kaskaskiakid]

As you told duck yesterday, it's a public forum and I can post whenever I like.

The worn out left wing media excuse for everything is so lame.

 

[Veerman_12]

As you told duck yesterday, it's a public forum and I can post whenever I like.

The worn out left wing media excuse for everything is so lame.

Not wrong though. I mean NBC is trying to get conservative sites demonetized (silenced) meanwhile the rest of mainstream media makes not a peep about it.

This is dangerous stuff if you actually care about the 1st Amendment.

 

[kaskaskiakid]

Pity party time!!!

 

[Veerman_12]

Pity party time!!!

Never argue with idiots...

You're defending some punk 20 year old from Canada trying to get a coach fired over a t-shirt (which said nothing remotely racist) and now you're trying to derail a thread because you know you can't defend the "changes" they demanded.

Gundy didn't want music that degrades women, cussed, or used the N-word played in his program. I'm sure you thought that was all ok for your programs since you obviously have no personal integrity or standards.

 

[Veerman_12]

As you told duck yesterday, it's a public forum and I can post whenever I like.

The worn out left wing media excuse for everything is so lame.

Difference between me and you, when I respond to Duck 90+ percent of the time it's on topic and an attempt to move the conversation forward.

You're not even trying to mask your attempts at derailing threads.

 

[kaskaskiakid]

Never argue with idiots...

You're defending some punk 20 year old from Canada trying to get a coach fired over a t-shirt (which said nothing remotely racist) and now you're trying to derail a thread because you know you can't defend the "changes" they demanded.

Gundy didn't want music that degrades women, cussed, or used the N-word played in his program. I'm sure you thought that was all ok for your programs since you obviously have no personal integrity or standards.

Wrong again. I'm criticizing Gundy for not having any balls. I would have gave the kid a ticket home if he didn't like my rules.

Don't try to read my mind - you're in over your head.

 

[Veerman_12]

Wrong again. I'm criticizing Gundy for not having any balls. I would have gave the kid a ticket home if he didn't like my rules.

Don't try to read my mind - you're in over your head.

And you would have been criticized and crucified all over social media and likely mainstream media as a racist.

The current climate is not one in which anyone conservative is going to be heard regardless of whether they're wrong or right.

Guess what conservatives will do in November if they get held down for the next few months...if you guessed turn out and vote, you'd be correct. Assuming the country makes it to November. Shots were already fired in New Mexico. Don't be surprised if that continues as well. It's going to get wild unless something is done.

 

[Distancefix]

Not surprised Gundy apologized. Gundy wants to keep coaching. Education is about socializing. The children may be ignorant, but they feel good about themselves. Our test scores have been stagnant for 40 years and in decline while other nations have improved.

 

[kaskaskiakid]

And you would have been criticized and crucified all over social media and likely mainstream media as a racist.

The current climate is not one in which anyone conservative is going to be heard regardless of whether they're wrong or right.

Guess what conservatives will do in November if they get held down for the next few months...if you guessed turn out and vote, you'd be correct. Assuming the country makes it to November. Shots were already fired in New Mexico. Don't be surprised if that continues as well. It's going to get wild unless something is done.

Dems have been held down for the past 4 yrs and now are revolting against the current wannabe dick tater. Anti trump sentiment has never been higher. Guess who will turn out and vote in Nov.

 

[Veerman_12]

Dems have been held down for the past 4 yrs and now are revolting against the current wannabe dick tater. Anti trump sentiment has never been higher. Guess who will turn out and vote in Nov.

Lol "held down" with record employment. No one's holding you down, you're holding yourself down with a 4 year temper tantrum because you didn't get your way. And "Orange Man bad" got burned into your brains by CNN.

 

[kaskaskiakid]

No need to respond, I'll just mark you down as "left wing media's fault" on every topic.

 

[Veerman_12]

No need to respond, I'll just mark you down as "left wing media's fault" on every topic.

Lol just dismiss it because it's way easier to dismiss than have to defend your position.

Troll.

 

[Stop n Go]

No need to respond, I'll just mark you down as "left wing media's fault" on every topic.

I’m sorry but I gotta interject here, Kask. You’re an absolute joke. Every time you get pushed around and thrown stats or facts at you that go against what you want to believe, you crumble and immediately turn to trolling. You have become worse than Sad. It’s laughable that you even log on to this message board. Because everything that’s been posted is stuff you don’t want to hear and/or didn’t know. And it pains you to see all the facts that come out. And you immediately jump into your shell and say “good luck getting 8% in Nov.” Bro, facts are facts when it comes to AAs. They’ve been put on here many times and you can’t even acknowledge them to be true. Do you not believe them?

At least your buddy Duck started a thread complaining about Biden. You’re so blinded by hating Trump that you can’t even see all that he has done. And you’ll never admit what he has done. CNN has you brainwashed man. And it is seriously so sad to see.

 

[Veerman_12]

I’m sorry but I gotta interject here, Kask. You’re an absolute joke. Every time you get pushed around and thrown stats or facts at you that go against what you want to believe, you crumble and immediately turn to trolling. You have become worse than Sad. It’s laughable that you even log on to this message board. Because everything that’s been posted is stuff you don’t want to hear and/or didn’t know. And it pains you to see all the facts that come out. And you immediately jump into your shell and say “good luck getting 8% in Nov.” Bro, facts are facts when it comes to AAs. They’ve been put on here many times and you can’t even acknowledge them to be true. Do you not believe them?

At least your buddy Duck started a thread complaining about Biden. You’re so blinded by hating Trump that you can’t even see all that he has done. And you’ll never admit what he has done. CNN has you brainwashed man. And it is seriously so sad to see.

He's gotten worse lately but this isn't new. He's goes to absurd trolling in an attempt to wear you down to the point you don't even want to address him anymore and then claims "victory" because trying to combat logical fallacies with facts and statistics is a losing battle.

Kaskaskiakid is the definition of a troll. Sad dude with Trump Derangement Syndrome who contributes very little and advances conversations little to none.

I'm sure there will be a personal attack, but it's not wrong. If I had the time or inclination to go through and quote every instance of him just obstinately ignoring facts (while presenting none of his own), injecting Trump where he doesn't belong, and just generally attempting to derail threads, it would take multiple posts to hold them all. It's all he does.

I might fall over dead of shock if he ever ACTUALLY stayed on topic, successfully refuted ANYTHING or managed to go a single day without interjecting Trump into threads where he doesn't belong.

 

[kaskaskiakid]

LOL If you reread this thread, you will see veer12 turned it into a left wing media excuse pity party like you both do every thread. Neither of you can have a debate without your worn out excuse for everything.

 

[Stop n Go]

LOL If you reread this thread, you will see veer12 turned it into a left wing media excuse pity party like you both do every thread. Neither of you can have a debate without your worn out excuse for everything.

Show me where I’ve made an excuse.

I’ll gladly wait. I’ve got all day man.

 

[Veerman_12]

LOL If you reread this thread, you will see veer12 turned it into a left wing media excuse pity party like you both do every thread. Neither of you can have a debate without your worn out excuse for everything.

No excuse. If you've got proof the mainstream media (especially CNN) reports accurately without a bias or interjecting opinion and personal narrative then please, give examples.

You asked why Gundy apologized and I told you. He's already guilty in the court of public opinion and the mainstream media and social media was salivating at the opportunity to publicly crucify a relatively high profile white male conservative.

Gundy was just avoiding a living nightmare.

I answered your question (repeatedly) because I'm interested in discourse, and yet you managed to duck mine (shocker, that's all you do).

Do you consider the rules Gundy had in place that they got changed because a 21 year old Canadian had a twitter temper tantrum were unreasonable rules?

Art Briles gets fired for "lack of institutional control", and promoting an atmosphere of violence toward women, but now Gundy is mocked for wanting to do the basic things he COULD control to promote an environment of respect toward women.

Was Hubbard justified in calling his coach out over a benign T-SHIRT in order to listen to the racist, sexist, misogynistic music he wanted and to avoid a basic dress code?

 

[kaskaskiakid]

No excuse. If you've got proof the mainstream media (especially CNN) reports accurately without a bias or interjecting opinion and personal narrative then please, give examples.

Do you have proof Fox news reports accurately without bias or interjecting opinion?? NO!! I guess repubs need to open more conservative news outlets.

Maybe not you, stopper, but definitely the same ol' "go to" excuse for most repubs including trumpy.

Did you hear trumpy announced yesterday we have a cure for AIDS??? LMAO what an idiot!!!.

 

[Veerman_12]

Do you have proof Fox news reports accurately without bias or interjecting opinion?? NO!! I guess repubs need to open more conservative news outlets.

Maybe not you, stopper, but definitely the same ol' "go to" excuse for most repubs including trumpy.

Did you hear trumpy announced yesterday we have a cure for AIDS??? LMAO what an idiot!!!.

I've never claimed Fox wasn't biased. Fox doesn't claim they aren't biased.

CNN still tries to act like they're unbiased journalists.

No, conservatives don't need to open media outlets, journalists need to exercise some journalistic integrity and just report the news without interjecting their agenda into it.

Meanwhile you still can't answer a basic question because you're a complete joke. I will not be answering anymore of your questions until you start arguing in good faith.

People on here give me crap about not having an open mind, but at least I can admit when I'm wrong. You avoid even having to confront possibly being wrong it's embarrassing.

 

[kaskaskiakid]

I never claimed CNN or others weren't bias. But I don't cry about Fox news every freakin day either.

Yes Fox does try to act like they are unbiased !!

 

[Veerman_12]

I never claimed CNN or others weren't bias. But I don't cry about Fox news every freakin day either.

Yes Fox does try to act like they are unbiased !!

Dude...either answer my questions and move on. This constant distraction tactic is getting annoying.

 

[kaskaskiakid]

Unlike Gundy, I won't cower to your demands. LOL

 

[Veerman_12]

Unlike Gundy, I won't cower to your demands. LOL

Ok, I won't be answering any of your questions in the future. I'll go out of my way to be as big a troll as you are.

 

[kaskaskiakid]

I already know your answer - it's the left wing media's fault. Just like Gundy!! A player makes demands on a coach, the coach gives in, and it's the dems fault!! Not the coach who made the decision, but the dems fault!! Do you know how ridiculous that is??

 

[Veerman_12]

I already know your answer - it's the left wing media's fault. Just like Gundy!! A player makes demands on a coach, the coach gives in, and it's the dems fault!! Not the coach who made the decision, but the dems fault!! Do you know how ridiculous that is??

Do you consider the rules Gundy had in place that they got changed because a 21 year old Canadian had a twitter temper tantrum were unreasonable rules?

Art Briles gets fired for "lack of institutional control", and promoting an atmosphere of violence toward women, but now Gundy is mocked for wanting to do the basic things he COULD control to promote an environment of respect toward women.

Was Hubbard justified in calling his coach out over a benign T-SHIRT in order to listen to the racist, sexist, misogynistic music he wanted and to avoid a basic dress code?

 

[kaskaskiakid]

Ear rings, hair, and do rags would not be an issue with me. Saggy pants - what they wear on their own time I wouldn't care, I would have a dress code on the road with no baggy pants.. Offensive or vulgar music - absolutely not at games over the PA. In the locker room, I wouldn't care.
However, if the player knew the rules before signing, he shouldn't have agreed to go to school there or agree to abide by the rules.
Gundy had no idea OAN had been critical of BLM. He discussed with the team and apologized to the team. Case closed.
No need for dems to interfere!! LOL

 

[Veerman_12]

Ear rings, hair, and do rags would not be an issue with me. Saggy pants - what they wear on their own time I wouldn't care, I would have a dress code on the road with no baggy pants.. Offensive or vulgar music - absolutely not at games over the PA. In the locker room, I wouldn't care.
However, if the player knew the rules before signing, he shouldn't have agreed to go to school there or agree to abide by the rules.
Gundy had no idea OAN had been critical of BLM. He discussed with the team and apologized to the team. Case closed.
No need for dems to interfere!! LOL

Thank you for your answer. While I also don't personally think those rules are a huge deal I also don't think they're unreasonable. They all knew the rules when they signed up. No one put a gun to their head and forced them to play at OSU.

There are better ways this could have been addressed and yeah Gundy should have stuck to his principles, but I also get it.

 

[kaskaskiakid]

Thank you for your answer. While I also don't personally think those rules are a huge deal I also don't think they're unreasonable. They all knew the rules when they signed up. No one put a gun to their head and forced them to play at OSU.

There are better ways this could have been addressed and yeah Gundy should have stuck to his principles, but I also get it.

So it's not the dems fault!! Your forthcoming apology is expected.

 

[Veerman_12]

So it's not the dems fault!! Your forthcoming apology is expected.

No the selective outrage of the left on Twitter and in the media made it impossible for him to even enforce the rules without possibly losing his job.

The left IS the problem in this scenario. Gundy was held hostage by the BLM movement and a country brainwashed into unnecessary white guilt.

Gundy's only "crime" is being conservative and wearing a tshirt that outwardly showed it.

 

[kaskaskiakid]

No the selective outrage of the left on Twitter and in the media made it impossible for him to even enforce the rules without possibly losing his job.

The left IS the problem in this scenario. Gundy was held hostage by the BLM movement and a country brainwashed into unnecessary white guilt.

Gundy's only "crime" is being conservative and wearing a tshirt that outwardly showed it.

Speaking of brainwashed...........such a lame excuse

 

[Veerman_12]

Speaking of brainwashed...........such a lame excuse

Ok whatever you say man.