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You said Trump voters dying was "funny as sh*t." Sorry, you don't get to act like you care about human life.

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I’m not a conservative. Thus I was not making a personal statement. But Trump lovers demanding we open states whether they are ready or not are not really conservatives either. This is why I posted the opinion of American Conservative mag.

Fake conservatives are everywhere. Besides I only chuckle when Trump lovers are stricken.
 
I’m not a conservative. Thus I was not making a personal statement. But Trump lovers demanding we open states whether they are ready or not are not really conservatives either. This is why I posted the opinion of American Conservative mag.

Fake conservatives are everywhere. Besides I only chuckle when Trump lovers are stricken.

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The real issue is how many casualties will result in economic catastrophe?

It makes it seem like we have to choose between people dying or not dying. That’s not the case.

If we were worried so much about elderly dying, why don’t we take the flu more seriously?

Just saw an article that said the infection rate may be up to 80x more than reported.

We still have no idea how many people already had it.
 
The real issue is how many casualties will result in economic catastrophe?

It makes it seem like we have to choose between people dying or not dying. That’s not the case.

If we were worried so much about elderly dying, why don’t we take the flu more seriously?

Just saw an article that said the infection rate may be up to 80x more than reported.

We still have no idea how many people already had it.
I read that we've learned that people carrying a temperature, are not contagious. So this precaution is worthless too. Crazy stuff.
 
The real issue is how many casualties will result in economic catastrophe?

It makes it seem like we have to choose between people dying or not dying. That’s not the case.

If we were worried so much about elderly dying, why don’t we take the flu more seriously?

Just saw an article that said the infection rate may be up to 80x more than reported.

We still have no idea how many people already had it.
Quarantine is not the key variable.
 
Just saw an article that said the infection rate may be up to 80x more than reported.

We still have no idea how many people already had it.

Heard they tested everyone on the Navy ship (teddy roosevelt) and 600 tested positive. Of those 600, 60% had no symptoms. If that rate applies nationwide (likely some lower due to age) and we know there are probably a million who have had symptoms too minor to test, there have been a slug of people combined.
 
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This is a good article and there is plenty of meaning packed into what he's written. We need to a better job of honoring and protecting our parents and grandparents.
I agree that it is a good read. We cannot forget the elderly or the workers taking care of them. On a related / non related subject how does folks on your side of the fence feel about protecting an unborn child?
You probably already know where I stand.
 
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You are welcome. This is the type of things you can find if you are open and willing to read articles that are from various sources and not just from people “on your side”.
 
The workers that serve the elderly are already doing the precautions and working and are employed and earning a living.

The problem are the multitude of people not working and not earning a paycheck.

The more you let out everyone else, the less time the workers in elderly homes have to be as careful.
 
There is no doubt that there are many people infected whom haven’t been identified. Which lowers the actual mortality rate.

Sounds to me like the places taking their employees temperature are wasting their time if asymptomatic folks are spreading it like they say.
 
There is no doubt that there are many people infected whom haven’t been identified. Which lowers the actual mortality rate.

Sounds to me like the places taking their employees temperature are wasting their time if asymptomatic folks are spreading it like they say.
What if the mortality rate is 80x lower than currently figured? Does that change your approach.

And.. I asked in another thread, what would be your plan of attack? Or some ideas? And what would be the cost of it?
 
What if the mortality rate is 80x lower than currently figured? Does that change your approach.

And.. I asked in another thread, what would be your plan of attack? Or some ideas? And what would be the cost of it?

No. There is no vaccine. There is a flu vaccine. When you have the flu, you know it and stay home. This is a different ball game.
 
is 99.8 percent of the population suffering through difficulty worth the other .2 percent?

This question even assumes if we hold out more people aren't going to die... terrible assumption.

I have two family members who are very susceptible... and I want them to take precautions. But, we can't stop the world for something that may kill at the same rate as the flu.
 
The divorce rate is high. Single parent homes are common. The last time I checked the 10 commandments are not being pushed. But it's still a good article.
 
I read that we've learned that people carrying a temperature, are not contagious. So this precaution is worthless too. Crazy stuff.
The only thing I've heard in that regard is that people that have it but do not yet have symptoms may be more contagious than those who already have symptoms.
 
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Testing accomplishes what other than determine if someone has it? How does it get things opened up?
I want testing to see who has had it too, we need both to get where we wanna be! We HAVE to know who has it even when they don't have symptoms so we can keep them away from those that do not have it for a while.
 
I’m not a conservative. Thus I was not making a personal statement. But Trump lovers demanding we open states whether they are ready or not are not really conservatives either. This is why I posted the opinion of American Conservative mag.

Fake conservatives are everywhere. Besides I only chuckle when Trump lovers are stricken.


Nobody is saying the those who are most at risk can't shelter in and semi-self Quarantine. That has usually been how a Quarantine works, those who have it or are at Risk are isolated.

So not sure about your point of the elderly etc..being devalued as human life.
 
I want testing to see who has had it too, we need both to get where we wanna be! We HAVE to know who has it even when they don't have symptoms so we can keep them away from those that do not have it for a while.
I agree we want to know who has had it already but that testing has just been developed. To expect it in mass volumes is unreasonable at this point. It should be a priority though....and it is.

How often are we gonna test people? Just because you don't have it today doesn't mean you won't get it today. Maybe we can test hourly to be sure.
 
There will never be Mass testing, that is a BS pipe dream. They are not even testing everyone that has been exposed. If you show symptoms sure they test after the rule out the flu.
People are clueless on how this works. Even some of the RN and MD/DO I work with are shocked at how the policy's are implemented, of course they only look at it from the Patients side. They ignore cost, panic, function society etc.
 
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There will never be Mass testing, that is a BS pipe dream. They are not even testing everyone that has been exposed. If you show symptoms sure they test after the rule out the flu.
People are clueless on how this works. Even some of the RN and MD/DO I work with are shocked at how the policy's are implemented, of course they only look at it from the Patients side. They ignore cost, panic, function society etc.
How shocking that doctors would look at it from the patients side. o_O
 
How shocking that doctors would look at it from the patients side. o_O

They should be patient advocate in care...but they also should realize that is not the best for the over all care of a large volume of patients. That's was my point. I get it DR have some over anxious nervous patient who wants tested to relieve those fears, but if every DR did that well talk about overwhelming the system. There is to much of that now with DR not doing proper analysis on prescribing Drugs and Treatment and costing the Taxpayers and Insurance companies Billions.
 
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