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The 232nd time someone said “No Collusion “ it was Mueller

I doubt the accuracy of the numbers/flood. If we don’t know where these people are how do we know they’re in the US?

You doubt the factcheck.com article I posted which used Pew research and FBI data? I mean ok, but as sources go, mine was pretty reliable.

And the point is, the 400,000 are people we know attempted crossing the border. We KNOW based on the same data points that there are between 12 million and 18 million illegals currently in the US. This isn't speculation, these are facts. Just because you refuse to believe them doesnt make them untrue.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/insigh...cumented-immigrants-as-previous-estimates?amp
 
You doubt the factcheck.com article I posted which used Pew research and FBI data? I mean ok, but as sources go, mine was pretty reliable.

And the point is, the 400,000 are people we know attempted crossing the border. We KNOW based on the same data points that there are between 12 million and 18 million illegals currently in the US. This isn't speculation, these are facts. Just because you refuse to believe them doesnt make them untrue.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/insights.som.yale.edu/insights/yale-study-finds-twice-as-many-undocumented-immigrants-as-previous-estimates?amp
AND because you believe them doesn't make them true. Do you see how that works for god sake.
 
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AND because you believe them doesn't make them true. Do you see how that works for god sake.

Except I've cited multiple (credible) sources and you just have your feelings and beliefs.

You choose not to believe verifiable data, that just proves you're incapable of being objective. Stupid is as stupid does after all.
 
Between 12 million and 18 million? Bahaha

Yes and I weigh between 100 and 300 pounds.
 
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I gave you the conservative estimate. 400,000. And I gave you sources. The liberals on this board choose to be evasive and not accept that reality.

I'll ask you, if 400,000 illegals are crossing the border a year (at the very low end) is that a problem?
Once again YOU cite the very FBI YOU think should be in jail over the Trump investigation. You either trust them or you don't, stop waffling.
 
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Please quote where I've said they belong in jail.

I've said it was a waste of time. That's all.
 
You doubt the factcheck.com article I posted which used Pew research and FBI data? I mean ok, but as sources go, mine was pretty reliable.

And the point is, the 400,000 are people we know attempted crossing the border. We KNOW based on the same data points that there are between 12 million and 18 million illegals currently in the US. This isn't speculation, these are facts. Just because you refuse to believe them doesnt make them untrue.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/insights.som.yale.edu/insights/yale-study-finds-twice-as-many-undocumented-immigrants-as-previous-estimates?amp
Your post says 400,000 ATTEMPTED to cross the border. That doesn’t mean they were successful. I ATTEMPTED to win big lottery jackpots, but I’m not in the 1% yet.
 
Please quote where I've said they belong in jail.

I've said it was a waste of time. That's all.
Oh must be one of your 'conservative' buddies on here that says they should be in jail. I ain't lookin back through the posts to see which one but it's there.
 
Your post says 400,000 ATTEMPTED to cross the border. That doesn’t mean they were successful. I ATTEMPTED to win big lottery jackpots, but I’m not in the 1% yet.

I've also cited a source stating there are upwards of 22 million illegals IN the country now.

Is that a problem or not? It's like having a discussion with a toddler between you, duck, and 3R. I've provided credible information and you three still just want to dance around simple questions.
 
I've also cited a source stating there are upwards of 22 million illegals IN the country now.

Is that a problem or not? It's like having a discussion with a toddler between you, duck, and 3R. I've provided credible information and you three still just want to dance around simple questions.
Because you don’t like the answer you claim it to not be an answer. The range you have cited is between 400,000 to 22,000,000. Come on, Dan. I can’t rely on numbers that wide spread. Apparently others can.

Btw, calling others names when they frustrate you show a certain level of maturity.
 
Because you don’t like the answer you claim it to not be an answer. The range you have cited is between 400,000 to 22,000,000. Come on, Dan. I can’t rely on numbers that wide spread. Apparently others can.

Btw, calling others names when they frustrate you show a certain level of maturity.

I'm not calling names, and I'd be happy with an answer if one of you ever had the testicular fortitude to give one.

400,000 is the number that were essentially accounted for and detained at the border. Between 12 million and 22 million are illegally in the country. Two different issues, both are major problems.

Or are they? None of you libs seem to want to say that it's an issue. Must suck to HAVE to stick to party lines on every issue.

#1 rule for being a Democrat, say anything, even if you know it's nonsense as long as you dont admit Trump might have a point.
 
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I'm not calling names, and I'd be happy with an answer if one of you ever had the testicular fortitude to give one.

400,000 is the number that were essentially accounted for and detained at the border. Between 12 million and 22 million are illegally in the country. Two different issues, both are major problems.

Or are they? None of you libs seem to want to say that it's an issue. Must suck to HAVE to stick to party lines on every issue.

#1 rule for being a Democrat, say anything, even if you know it's nonsense as long as you dont admit Trump might have a point.

Do you honestly believe Trump did not know his properties have employed hundreds of illegals over the years?

He is fine with illegals as long as he benefits.
 
Do you honestly believe Trump did not know his properties have employed hundreds of illegals over the years?

He is fine with illegals as long as he benefits.

Again, not the point. Is 12 to 22 million illegals in this country a problem or not? I dont care about Trump, focus on that one issue, that one question. Is it ok or isnt it?
 
Again, not the point. Is 12 to 22 million illegals in this country a problem or not? I dont care about Trump, focus on that one issue, that one question. Is it ok or isnt it?

No. IT IS the point. I dont believe Trump himself believes this is an issue. But he used it to fire up the racists in 2016 and he got elected. Now he must get the wall or he looks bad and wont stay in power. He is just a total fraud and he would be willing to waste billions on a wall we dont need.
 
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No. IT IS the point. I dont believe Trump himself believes this is an issue. But he used it to fire up the racists in 2016 and he got elected. Now he must get the wall or he looks bad and wont stay in power. He is just a total fraud and he would be willing to waste billions on a wall we dont need.

Roger Stone himself told him, if you get off track at your pep rally, just keep going back to "The Wall". It was a gimmick.
 
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No. IT IS the point. I dont believe Trump himself believes this is an issue. But he used it to fire up the racists in 2016 and he got elected. Now he must get the wall or he looks bad and wont stay in power. He is just a total fraud and he would be willing to waste billions on a wall we dont need.

Are 12 to 22 million illegals a problem? Yes or no?
 
I'm not calling names, and I'd be happy with an answer if one of you ever had the testicular fortitude to give one.

400,000 is the number that were essentially accounted for and detained at the border. Between 12 million and 22 million are illegally in the country. Two different issues, both are major problems.

Or are they? None of you libs seem to want to say that it's an issue. Must suck to HAVE to stick to party lines on every issue.

#1 rule for being a Democrat, say anything, even if you know it's nonsense as long as you dont admit Trump might have a point.
I have said this before:
IF 400,000 are coming in illegally and
IF 12-22 million are already here,
yes it is a problem ... IF.

How many more times do you want me to agree with you and those numbers, IF they’re accurate.
 
I have said this before:
IF 400,000 are coming in illegally and
IF 12-22 million are already here,
yes it is a problem ... IF.

How many more times do you want me to agree with you and those numbers, IF they’re accurate.

Those numbers are definitely accurate within the range. There are definitely somewhere between 12 and 22 million in the US.

So the question becomes, why are you so averse to a wall if you agree there is a problem?

And if you want to be a toddler and come back with "well what's the exact number", I'll ask you, what's the exact amount of emissions that have cause exactly how much global warming? You know, if you want to be pedantic.
 
Are 12 to 22 million illegals a problem? Yes or no?

For me personally? No.
My taxes are low too. I am living well
while other people are suffering and our
infrastructure and schools are underfunded.
But thats all ok because greed, hate and lack of empathy are what make America great again.
 
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Between 12 million and 22 million is "accurate". For the love of toasted cheese sandwiches, this is comical.
 
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For me personally? No.
My taxes are low too. I am living well
while other people are suffering and our
infrastructure and schools are underfunded.
But thats all ok because greed, hate and lack of empathy are what make America great again.

Maybe if we weren't providing for so many million illegals, here in our country, AGAINST THE LAW, which you don't seem to care about at all, (typical lib) we would have some more money for infrastructure and schools?
 
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Maybe if we weren't providing for so many million illegals, here in our country, AGAINST THE LAW, which you don't seem to care about at all, (typical lib) we would have some more money for infrastructure and schools?

The only laws he cares about are gun laws.
 
Maybe if we weren't providing for so many million illegals, here in our country, AGAINST THE LAW, which you don't seem to care about at all, (typical lib) we would have some more money for infrastructure and schools?
IF ... they are here illegally. Why do so many see someone with brown skin and know how to speak Spanish, they are automatically a suspected illegal? There’s a word for that.
 
IF ... they are here illegally. Why do so many see someone with brown skin and know how to speak Spanish, they are automatically a suspected illegal? There’s a word for that.

So your stance is there are no illegals in this country?
 
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I'm not calling names, and I'd be happy with an answer if one of you ever had the testicular fortitude to give one.

400,000 is the number that were essentially accounted for and detained at the border. Between 12 million and 22 million are illegally in the country. Two different issues, both are major problems.

Or are they? None of you libs seem to want to say that it's an issue. Must suck to HAVE to stick to party lines on every issue.

#1 rule for being a Democrat, say anything, even if you know it's nonsense as long as you dont admit Trump might have a point.
I don't know where those numbers come from. I have heard fro along time there is supposed to be around 12 million in country, I have heard NEVER 22 million. The extra 10 million must be those pesky ones that 'slipped in undetected.' o_O
 
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When did I say that? Please read my last post again.

It's cute that you want to imply other people are racist for stating the FACT that there are a ton of illegals in this country, but get your feelings hurt when someone calls you childish or obtuse.
 
I don't where those numbers come from. I have heard fro along time there is supposed to be around 12 million in country, I have heard NEVER 22 million. The extra 10 million must be those pesky ones that 'slipped in undetected.' o_O

22 million is from the Yale study that I conveniently posted for you.
 
It's cute that you want to imply other people are racist for stating the FACT that there are a ton of illegals in this country, but get your feelings hurt when someone calls you childish or obtuse.
Ok. You win. I’m childish AND obtuse. I probably just made your day.
 
22 million is from the Yale study that I conveniently posted for you.
That is quite a jump over ANY numbers I've ever heard from anyone on this subject. Must be a lot more that 'slipped in undetected' than you thought. I still don't see anybody can come up with a number that might even be close, up or down, but that one is way out of whack with anyone else has ever said on TV, in congress or anywhere else.
 
That is quite a jump over ANY numbers I've ever heard from anyone on this subject. Must be a lot more that 'slipped in undetected' than you thought. I still don't see anybody can come up with a number that might even be close, up or down, but that one is way out of whack with anyone else has ever said on TV, in congress or anywhere else.

For the 450th time...the probable range is 12 million to 18 million. But you know that, I've only posted and cited sources 450 times. 22 million is a HIGH end estimate from Yale University, again I cited the source and posted a link.

Be honest with me, are you just a troll or are you seriously this inept?
 
For the 450th time...the probable range is 12 million to 18 million. But you know that, I've only posted and cited sources 450 times. 22 million is a HIGH end estimate from Yale University, again I cited the source and posted a link.

Be honest with me, are you just a troll or are you seriously this inept?
How am I being a troll when I say the numbers you're giving out, from whatever the source, is way higher than any I have ever heard of, EVER! You can post it 5000 times, it's still higher than anything I've ever seen or heard of.
 
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How am I being a troll when I say the numbers you're giving out, from whatever the source, is way higher than any I have ever heard of, EVER! You can post it 5000 times, it's still higher than anything I've ever seen or heard of.

Then post your numbers with credible links.
 
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