This is UGLY for trumpy but his worshippers will still prostrate themselves.
Sick! Bigly!
Taliban 'deal'
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This is UGLY for trumpy but his worshippers will still prostrate themselves.
Sick! Bigly!
The current leader of the Taliban was freed by Trump while still in office from a Pakistani prison... obviously only Trump owns that.
Sure and Obama owns the Bergdahl trade for 5 terrorists but neither Trump nor Obama have taken it to the level that Biden has. Total disaster…
Can any of you folks tell me how ANYONE could know the Afghan Army would just melt away before we could even get out of the the country? If they wouldn't fight for their own country we have NO business being there and it's THEIR fault the Taliban is in Kabul and messing with our efforts to get the people that we need to get out!
Doha Agreement signed by Trump on February 29 2020. There were no enforcement mechanisms and no penalties of any kind for failure to comply. Yes... Fat Donnie truly owns the "art of the deal."
Trumps not the Pres.Keep crying if it makes you feel better.This is on Biden
I agreed with Trump AND Biden - it is time to get out of Afghan, and there was no pretty way it was going to happen. Americans in Afghan have known since Feb that this day was coming. Nonessential workers and contractors had ample time to get out.
I disagree. The images from Kabul do not suggest that nonessential workers and contractors have enough time. This current mess is not on Trump, Obama or Bush.
2 weeks ago people weren’t trying to cling to the outside of airplanes leaving Kabul. Nobody is blameless here but if you think the Biden administration has done anything but F this up I can’t help you.
Biden has done nothing but blame other people for this mess just like a few on here. Get our people out and turn it into a gravel pit
I see no one has an answer to my question about how ANYBODY could have known the Afghan military would lay down their weapons and run away. THAT is what created this mess, no one could know they would let the Taliban waltz into Kabul as soon as they wanted to get there. Once again why should WE fight for their people when they didn't give a rats ass about them. They have NO right to complain about what happens to them now.
Quote the Biden “there is going to be no circumstance where you will see people being lifted off the embassy of the United States from Afghanistan”
That aged poorly…
Why weren't the remaining Americans getting out for the past year and a half after Trump announced the withdrawal?
Still avoiding the question about how he or anyone else could know they Afghan army would just quit and let the Taliban stroll into Kabul.
because they aren't there on vacation. They're there making big money or they're involved with espionage.
That's their fault. I would have had my plane ticket months ago.
We took away their Air Support and supply support so basically they couldn't fight using the tactics they had been trained with.
The contractors and NOnEWrk. did a lot of the Ground work to keep the Army up and running, their leaving gutted the whole operation. Keeping a couple of thousand troops in Afghan with the Contractors would of been nothing on the grand scale of things.
Because it was stable and controlled with minimal involvement of the U.S. in man power. Now it's a full on terror state.....
So why Did Biden and his Cohorts go along with and follow Trumps deal? I mean clearly if this DoHa Deal was such a epic failure then Biden has had a year and a half to come up with another plan. Instead what you are saying is Biden is even dumber than Trump for following along and supporting a Bum deal and plan.
Clearly Trump wanted out of Afghan bad, bad enough to broker a Pie in the sky plan where the Taliban agreed to take responsibility and charge of not allowing any terrorist to attack in the U.S. or they where responsible. Basically let the Taliban do what they wanted in their world just don't Mess or bother us.
I guess Biden and his Staff are 100% all in on the Deal because they sure as heck jumped down the Rabbit Hole. Biden has ignored and rewritten plenty of Trumps deals and policies and he choose to follow this plan of action that is 100% on him. Of course both parties supported the Doha deal..... but it was not a good plan by Trump that is clear. But it's even dumber That Biden chose not to amend or alter the plan.
It's disgusting that he is now Blaming Trump for something he allowed to happen and could of prevented under his watch. Clearly there was a escape clause that could of been used if the peace talks failed they did and Biden carried on with the plan anyway with a small delay....Biden could of fixed this.
I think he will end up being even more disliked abroad than Trumps arrogant swagger schtick was........ Being Mad and making poor decisions is even more distasteful than being a Dbag arsehole.
British Ministers are Now Openly Stating Their Belief That Biden Has Gone 'Completely Mad'
British ministers are now saying out loud what millions of Americans have come to believe behind closed doors: President Biden has gone "completely mad." The Sunday Times reported on the development at Whitehall, a euphemism for the bureaucratic wing of the British government. Afghanistan...
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It wasn't stable. Since the 'peace deal' its gone back in the crapper.
Unless you were on a US base.
The crap you trumpers think you know...
Exactly, no sooner than US troops left the northern provinces under Trump, the Taliban came right in and sized control.
Reason why Biden went forward is because it polled well. Most Americans are tired of the war. 73% of Americans approved be it Trump or Biden who was in the white house, on leaving Afghanistan.
Besides those who are trying to make this a huge deal and make Biden look bad the poll numbers still show most felt it was time to leave.
The Afgan Army was never going to be able to stand on thier own and we were never going to be able to remove the threat of the taliban no matter how long we stayed. I think many wished for a different outcome but it was not to ever going to change it was a money pit.
Besides those who are trying to make this a huge deal and make Biden look bad the poll numbers still show most felt it was time to leave.
The Afgan Army was never going to be able to stand on thier own and we were never going to be able to remove the threat of the taliban no matter how long we stayed. I think many wished for a different outcome but it was not to ever going to change it was a money pit.
lol great source. I open it and have to close the ad for a Trump 2024 flag.So why Did Biden and his Cohorts go along with and follow Trumps deal? I mean clearly if this DoHa Deal was such a epic failure then Biden has had a year and a half to come up with another plan. Instead what you are saying is Biden is even dumber than Trump for following along and supporting a Bum deal and plan.
Clearly Trump wanted out of Afghan bad, bad enough to broker a Pie in the sky plan where the Taliban agreed to take responsibility and charge of not allowing any terrorist to attack in the U.S. or they where responsible. Basically let the Taliban do what they wanted in their world just don't Mess or bother us.
I guess Biden and his Staff are 100% all in on the Deal because they sure as heck jumped down the Rabbit Hole. Biden has ignored and rewritten plenty of Trumps deals and policies and he choose to follow this plan of action that is 100% on him. Of course both parties supported the Doha deal..... but it was not a good plan by Trump that is clear. But it's even dumber That Biden chose not to amend or alter the plan.
It's disgusting that he is now Blaming Trump for something he allowed to happen and could of prevented under his watch. Clearly there was a escape clause that could of been used if the peace talks failed they did and Biden carried on with the plan anyway with a small delay....Biden could of fixed this.
I think he will end up being even more disliked abroad than Trumps arrogant swagger schtick was........ Being Mad and making poor decisions is even more distasteful than being a Dbag arsehole.
British Ministers are Now Openly Stating Their Belief That Biden Has Gone 'Completely Mad'
British ministers are now saying out loud what millions of Americans have come to believe behind closed doors: President Biden has gone "completely mad." The Sunday Times reported on the development at Whitehall, a euphemism for the bureaucratic wing of the British government. Afghanistan...
Compared to now it was stable. The Afghan region has never been a bastion of stability. But it was at least not chaos.
Jeez a junior High response at best. Are you even a adult?
I clearly stated that Trumps plan was not up to snuff and was just ram rodded through to get out as fast as possible which should never have happened. But Biden clearly really fudged this up and seems clueless in his actions. And is 100% on board with just walking away when he didn't have to.
I agree it was a horrible Move by Trump. He wanted out, he had no stomach for the long haul and Biden doesn't either. But Biden had a out clause and could of backed out and fixed the issue. He powered on with a Bad Plan.
It is telling that you can't admit that Biden is as much or more to blame than Trump.
LOL is the article wrong???nope......I mean most Media places take money for Ads. I've literally sourced plenty of Left leaning articles before. Sort of sad that advert for someone you don't like sway's your biased opinion to a huge degree. But in fairness...
Here is another link...
Biden Rattles U.K. With His Afghanistan Policy (Published 2021)
Britain was the second-largest supplier of troops to Afghanistan, and the United States’ rapid withdrawal from the country has left some embittered.
Does the Leftist NYtimes jazz you up more. It was a even harder on Biden IMO.
Well if Biden continues as I suspect he will to govern by Polling data....it's going to get bad. The monetary investment going forward to keep a skeleton crew of troops and contractors going forward was very much worth it. I don't care what the American polling numbers say. Logic has to override emotional drivel from the average citizen.
At this point I bet that Biden regrets not doing something different. His polling numbers are dropping do to his actions on C19 and the withdraw Chaos. And weirdly the Leftist Media isn't shilling for him...this doesn't bode well long term.
They should be hard on him. He has not handled this well.
They should have known it will be bad, but I don't think they realized it could get this bad.
My first thought was what several on here have said: "If they don't want to fight for themselves why are we?"
I heard on some report, that it isn't that they don't want to fight for themselves, but the Taliban will kill all of their family if they catch someone fighting against them. I wouldn't want to do that to my family either.
I understand why they threw their arms down. I don't know that I realized just how uncivilized the Taiban is.
They should have known it will be bad, but I don't think they realized it could get this bad.
My first thought was what several on here have said: "If they don't want to fight for themselves why are we?"
I heard on some report, that it isn't that they don't want to fight for themselves, but the Taliban will kill all of their family if they catch someone fighting against them. I wouldn't want to do that to my family either.
I understand why they threw their arms down. I don't know that I realized just how uncivilized the Taiban is.
The problem with fighting an enemy like the Taliban we the American people are never going to fight on thier level...And do what it will take to win the war, it's not who we are or what we believe in.
Your right the Taliban is uncivilized. That is why we cannot and will not win this war, we can only maintain the line for the time we are willing stay in the Country and while doing that we will suffer our own loses for people who are not willing to do the same.
The Taliban will just wait until we decide to leave and pounce. WE are not willing to go over there and exterminate them, so they are always going to be there...that is not who we are... or what we believe in. However, the Taliban will do that and much worse to win long term, they know they cannot leave anybody alive who will oppose them. They rule by fear and terror, they are terrible people doing unspeakable things to stay in power.
The Afghan people are going to have to fight and sacrifice a lot to win. Yes, sometimes if you want freedom there will be sacrifices, so far, they are not willing to step up and do that. They want us to do it.
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