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Still so overrated

Toots_mcgee

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Times having a top 10 defense:
Tom Brady since turning 40: 5

Peyton Manning career: 4

Aaron Rodgers career: 3

Drew Brees career: 2

Patrick Mahomes career: 0
 
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Times having a top 10 defense:
Tom Brady since turning 40: 5

Peyton Manning career: 4

Aaron Rodgers career: 3

Drew Brees career: 2

Patrick Mahomes career: 0
Players to lead the league in both passing yards and touchdowns in their age 44 season.

1. Tom Brady

players to win a super bowl MVP in the age 43 season

1. Tom Brady

You’re probably right though. Without a good defense his arm and brain wouldn’t work nearly the same…. I often forget how much the defense has to do with the quarterback mechanics. Take a second and imagine how much higher his personal ststitistics would be with bad defenses. Those super bowls are team wins and don’t happen without the defense but also don’t happen without what he did in those years either. The numbers vet it out. He’s the greatest to ever do it and it’s not even close.
 
But look at the divisions they were sll playing in. Mahomes will never have a top defense on the other side because of the divisional oponents. Then you have to take into account the salary of the Chiefs highest 10 paid players. They take up a temendous amount of cap space. How can they afford to have an equal defense.
 
Or how about the fact that Brady played against the Bills, Jets, and Dolphins twice a year! Brady got the benefit of playing in a very weak division at the time. Brady also played in the AFC during a time where there werent very many elite QBs in the conference! But one of them happened to be playing on my STEELERS!!
 
how many times did Brady restructure his contract so that they could sign better players. Pretty interesting that he gave up over $60 million over the years.
Not a Brady fan but unlike todays athletes who cash strap a team Brady never did that he knew he needed other players around him to win.

 
Nobody else will ever touch Brady’s championships. Mahomes will be even with his talents lucky to touch 4. I’m being generous to say he WILL win 4. May be less. Brady is the best to do it. Think he’s an asshole, blame incompetence in other organizations within the division, make excuses. He’s the best. It is what it is. Winning breeds haters. He may be an ass to some. But we won’t ever see this level of historic winning again.
 
how many times did Brady restructure his contract so that they could sign better players. Pretty interesting that he gave up over $60 million over the years.
Not a Brady fan but unlike todays athletes who cash strap a team Brady never did that he knew he needed other players around him to win.

Now this, I have always admired Brady for. He knew he was worth the big contracts but didn't want money. He wanted championships. I wish more players had this mindset.
 
Now this, I have always admired Brady for. He knew he was worth the big contracts but didn't want money. He wanted championships. I wish more players had this mindset.
I remember when Derek Carr was up for his contract. He didn't eant 25 million a year but the players association wouldn't let gim sign for less stating it would set the union back a decade. He ended up giving 20 million to his church because he was forced to take it basically.
 
Nobody else will ever touch Brady’s championships. Mahomes will be even with his talents lucky to touch 4. I’m being generous to say he WILL win 4. May be less. Brady is the best to do it. Think he’s an asshole, blame incompetence in other organizations within the division, make excuses. He’s the best. It is what it is. Winning breeds haters. He may be an ass to some. But we won’t ever see this level of historic winning again.
He's not the best. He's played on the best teams.
 
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He's not the best. He's played on the best teams.
Sorry Rufus (I’m a peon too) but someone on a Missouri chat forum page isn’t going to change that. He just is. No goofy forum discussion is going to change that. It’s not really an opinion it’s a fact. I hate him. He stopped at least 2 championships from my team alone in the 2000s. This has nothing to do with my feelings.
 
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Sorry Rufus (I’m a peon too) but someone on a Missouri chat forum page isn’t going to change that. He just is. No goofy forum discussion is going to change that. It’s not really an opinion it’s a fact. I hate him. He stopped at least 2 championships from my team alone in the 2000s. This has nothing to do with my feelings.
Nothing to do with my feelings either. Just my opinion. Not a fact.
 
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If Brady had intercepted Russell Wilson’s pass on the goaline or mugged the Rams receivers all over the field and kicked the long game winning FG instead of being held to 145 yards or not had a 71.3 passer rating, his lowest ever in a Super Bowl in their 13-3 victory over LA, or played defense to hold KC to 9 points or if he hadn’t thrown a pick in each of his first five SBs and then two more vs Seattle, then I would say he is the greatest football player in history. The Buccaneers had the most loaded roster in the league and the Pats had great defense and kicking year after year. He fumbled away the AFC championship and then was saved by a bizarre tuck rule no one ever heard of. He is the most fortunate player is history. The best? Pffffft.
 
Let's us all not forget the game before Brady's first super bowl. Everyone knows that's a fumble and then the Raiders are in.

Another what if I always wonder about, imagine if Drew Brees doesn't fail his physical with Miami. Now you have another elite QB in the same division. Not saying it erases all of Brady's legacy but I'd imagine a few of those division crowns and playoff appearances wouldn't have happened.
 
Let's us all not forget the game before Brady's first super bowl. Everyone knows that's a fumble and then the Raiders are in.

Another what if I always wonder about, imagine if Drew Brees doesn't fail his physical with Miami. Now you have another elite QB in the same division. Not saying it erases all of Brady's legacy but I'd imagine a few of those division crowns and playoff appearances wouldn't have happened.
Drew Brees vs Tom Brady two times a year? You bet Tom loses some of those division titles and playoff appearances!
 
If Brady had intercepted Russell Wilson’s pass on the goaline or mugged the Rams receivers all over the field and kicked the long game winning FG instead of being held to 145 yards or not had a 71.3 passer rating, his lowest ever in a Super Bowl in their 13-3 victory over LA, or played defense to hold KC to 9 points or if he hadn’t thrown a pick in each of his first five SBs and then two more vs Seattle, then I would say he is the greatest football player in history. The Buccaneers had the most loaded roster in the league and the Pats had great defense and kicking year after year. He fumbled away the AFC championship and then was saved by a bizarre tuck rule no one ever heard of. He is the most fortunate player is history. The best? Pffffft.

I don't know that he is the Greatest? but he is pretty damn decent. Last time I checked Football was a team sport? Takes more than just one player, one coach, one anything? to win and to win at a high level. Again hate defending Brady not my favorite player, but the man gave up alot of money so they could sign and have those FG kickers those CB who could intercept balls, linebackers who were sure tacklers. Brady in a time where football is fast becoming a me me sport... knew it was a team team sport to win.

If Brady is not a Great QB why is Bill not as successful with out him?



RECORD
Bill Belichick with Tom Brady (regular season)219-64 (.774)
Bill Belichick without Tom Brady (regular season)63-75 (.457)
Bill Belichick with Tom Brady (playoffs)30-11 (.732)
Bill Belichick without Tom Brady (playoffs)1-1 (.500)
 
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Btw Berry is a troll account and has Brady posters on his wall at home. He makes these to troll Brady haters. Hook, line, and sinker.
 
John Elway took some bad teams to the super bowl. Brady has NEVER taken a bad team to the super bowl. He has received so much credit for other people’s work he should have been one of my bosses.
 
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I don't know that he is the Greatest? but he is pretty damn decent. Last time I checked Football was a team sport? Takes more than just one player, one coach, one anything? to win and to win at a high level. Again hate defending Brady not my favorite player, but the man gave up alot of money so they could sign and have those FG kickers those CB who could intercept balls, linebackers who were sure tacklers. Brady in a time where football is fast becoming a me me sport... knew it was a team team sport to win.

If Brady is not a Great QB why is Bill not as successful with out him?



RECORD
Bill Belichick with Tom Brady (regular season)219-64 (.774)
Bill Belichick without Tom Brady (regular season)63-75 (.457)
Bill Belichick with Tom Brady (playoffs)30-11 (.732)
Bill Belichick without Tom Brady (playoffs)1-1 (.500)
NO fan of Brady either..... But he is the Best QB ever, now I will rinse out my mouth. He wins and sure sometimes Luck and Good teammates are part of the machine. But he has done it on Different teams and across a huge time frame. You can't chalk it up to all of it being luck or him riding the coattails of his teammates.

Now whether he is the Greatest Player ever is a whole other subject.... but a case could be made that he is.
 
Can’t argue that…but Joe was Cool I give him that.
 
She is a Piece of work it's obvious she is filing for Divorce now so her Alimony Check will be a lot bigger.....Why Stars ever get married is insane. Absolutely no reason to ever run a good relationship with a Marriage.
She is worth considerably more than he is. I doubt there's money changing hands either direction. Assets on the other hand...
 
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This is just how lucky the SOB is:

Bill Belichick: 5-4 record, last place in division

Tom Brady: 4-5 record, first place in division

In Brady’s entire time in NE, Buffalo, the Jets, and Miami sucked 90% of the time.
 
Tom Brady offense Sunday:

Down 7-3: Punt
Down 7-3: Punt
Down 7-3: Blocked FG
Down 7-3: FG
Down 7-6: Punt
Down 10-6: Punt
Down 10-6: Downs
Down 13-6: Punt
Down 13-6: FG
Down 13-9: Downs
Down 13-9: TD

He finally came through on his 11th chance. Pure greatness. MVP.
 
She is worth considerably more than he is. I doubt there's money changing hands either direction. Assets on the other hand...
That doesn't mean she won't try and punish him by taking $$$$/Assets.
 
Mr overrated today: SEVEN three and outs and a loss to Jacoby Brisett. Give it up Gramps.
 
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