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DOGFATHER1

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IF MSHSAA had to vacate Miz-Zou Arena
where should future final-four be held...?


Thanks, C =/~
 
Show-Me Center in Cape. I could sleep in my own bed :)

I kid because the SMC only seats 7,100, but one can dream!
 
Not many options. St Louis, KC, or Springfield. I'd probably vote for Springfield. The Q is a great place to watch basketball. And it's much more laid back and easier to get around in Springfield.
 
I would vote Springfield. I would even predict better turnouts. Look at what the T of C brings in attendance wise. Southwest Missouri supports basketball. They can use JQ and Hammons. Easier in and out.
 
Once MSU renovates Hammons, which is being talked about / planned, then Springfield would be the best alternative to Columbia.
 
Independence Events Center is an excellent small facility, but doesn't quite seat 6,000. Also, at many small facilities, locker rooms/media facilities could be an issue.
Sprint Center would be awful big, but obviously would have more than adequate amenities in every other way.
I like having it in Columbia.
 
I hope it stays in Columbia. Is there any reason anyone knows of that it would have to move?
 
What about Scottrade Center? Too big?

What is the facility in St. Charles? How much seating does it have?
 
The Q (11,000 seats) and HSC (8,800 seats) would be the only combo that could match what they have in Columbia. I think if they spend a few bucks fixing up HSC (center-court overhead scoreboard & new scorers/press tables, etc.), Springfield should get it.
 
I would say Springfield would be the best option and facilities. The last place I would vote for is Kansas City. The volleyball state championships were a disaster and I about went broke with hotels and parking fees.
 
SEC wants only SEC events contested at SEC members facilities... .. .oo C ; /~
This kind of slipped by. I assume you're serious and have heard this. I haven't seen it anywhere. Hard to believe the conference can tell a university what they can do with their facilities when conference events aren't being held there.
 
St Charles Family Arena

10K and change for basketball
Family arena makes more sense to me than Scottrade, rental has to be cheaper and it's closer to the middle of the state.

Pretty sure the Shrine Circus was around the same time as the Final Four...would have to make sure the weekends work. They also had the GLVC conference tourney...you'd have to see what the contract is for that as well.
 
Family arena makes more sense to me than Scottrade, rental has to be cheaper and it's closer to the middle of the state.

Pretty sure the Shrine Circus was around the same time as the Final Four...would have to make sure the weekends work. They also had the GLVC conference tourney...you'd have to see what the contract is for that as well.
I heard since most of the talented kids end up at KU, they were going to move the final four to the Allen Fieldhouse!
 
IF MSHSAA had to vacate Miz-Zou Arena
where should future final-four be held...?


Thanks, C =/~
Only place that makes any sense at all...assuming they'll still want two venues like they have now...would be Springfield. It'd also be a better fan experience. Shorter walk between buildings. Campus isn't such an absolute cluster. Locals would likely support it more. And I could grab lunch and bevs at SBC during the girls games!
 
Only place that makes any sense at all...assuming they'll still want two venues like they have now...would be Springfield. It'd also be a better fan experience. Shorter walk between buildings. Campus isn't such an absolute cluster. Locals would likely support it more. And I could grab lunch and bevs at SBC during the girls games!
No Ebbets? Although last time I was there the ribeye steak sandwich was off the menu so.....
 
No Ebbets? Although last time I was there the ribeye steak sandwich was off the menu so.....
Seems to me it would cost all the schools a LOT of money if they can't have other events in their big empty building. Kinda strange if it's true.
 
I know this will not be popular, but when I coached bball in Idaho they had a eight team state tourney, girls played the week before, boys played a week later, each of the classes were at different locations, class one was at Albertsons college, I can't remember where two and three were, class 4 was at Boise St
 
I know this will not be popular, but when I coached bball in Idaho they had a eight team state tourney, girls played the week before, boys played a week later, each of the classes were at different locations, class one was at Albertsons college, I can't remember where two and three were, class 4 was at Boise St

I don't know if Illinois still does this, but back when they had just two classes, they would have a "final eight" at state and separate the boys and girls on different weekends. It made for a great spectacle in their state tournaments and the crowds were enormous, even for the girls weekend. I guarantee you if they separate boys and girls weekends you would increase the crowds and therefore revenue. Can you imagine all five championship games being played consecutively on a Saturday? The enormous crowds you would have.
 
I favor the 'Elite 8' being state too. I think Kansas does it that way. Oklahoma also has a system where you can lose in the 'area' yet still make it to state. I don't think it's double-elimination, but close to it, if you're a top seed.
 
I don't know if Illinois still does this, but back when they had just two classes, they would have a "final eight" at state and separate the boys and girls on different weekends. It made for a great spectacle in their state tournaments and the crowds were enormous, even for the girls weekend. I guarantee you if they separate boys and girls weekends you would increase the crowds and therefore revenue. Can you imagine all five championship games being played consecutively on a Saturday? The enormous crowds you would have.

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The Illinois High School Boys Basketball Championship is a single elimination tournament held each spring. It is organized by the Illinois High School Association (IHSA).

From 1908-1971, it was a single tournament contested by nearly all high schools in Illinois. In 1972, the tournament was divided into two divisions based on school size, (A and AA), each producing a separate champion. In 2008, the tournament was divided into four separate divisions (1A, 2A, 3A, and 4A being the larger schools). The Illinois High School Basketball Championship was the first tournament to be called 'March Madness'. The term was first used about the Illinois tournament in 1939.

Under the current four class system, teams are assigned to a class, based on the student population, with adjustments made for single gender schools, and for schools which are not four year high schools. Within the class, schools are geographically assigned to a regional, which is, in turn assigned to a sectional which, finally, is assigned to a super-sectional. Regional tournaments are generally between four to eight teams, depending on the number of teams in a geographic area in a particular class. There are four regional tournaments within each sectional and two sectionals within each super-sectional. Each tournament is single elimination.

Within the regional, coaches seed the teams. The winners of the four regional tournaments then meet in a single elimination sectional tournament. The teams are not re-seeded after regional play, and the winners of the regional tournament are randomly assigned, in advance, to play the winner of one of the other regionals in the sectional semifinals.

The winner of the sectional tournament then faces the winner of another (geographically close) sectional champion for the super-sectional championship. This winner advances to the state tournament.

The state tournament in each class is composed of the four super-sectional winners, and are randomly assigned to play each other in the semifinal round. The winners of the semifinal round compete for the state championship the next evening, while the semifinal losers compete for third place the next day. The state semifinals are generally held on a Friday, with the championship and third place games held on Saturday. Classes 1A and 2A share the same weekend, while 3A and 4A compete the weekend after that.

Under the current four class system, each class has four super sectional games, and thus 8 sectionals. Each sectional has four regionals, giving each class 32 regional tournaments.

Prior to 1972, when there was only one tournament for all schools to compete in, there were a variety of formats in use.

The IHSA Girls Basketball tournament is organized in exactly the same way as the boys' tournament; however, the girls' tournament begins two weeks before the boys' tournament.


When I left ILLs it was "1" class...
C =/~
 
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