Resident Immunology Experts

[r14veer]

There goes that argument?

Obviously, this is not definitive, of course; clinical studies are about probabilities and not certainties, but it is instructive...and contradictory to what a particularly loud group has been putting out there.

 

[cardsrock15]

There goes that argument?

Obviously, this is not definitive, of course; clinical studies are about probabilities and not certainties, but it is instructive...and contradictory to what a particularly loud group has been putting out there.

With all of that JibberJabber it didn't break down to the easiest analysis that I know of (unless Imisssd it)

what percentage of people who got the original vaccination recommended contracted Covid AGAIN

vs

What percentage of people who got Covid, were never vaccinated at any time,,,then got Covid AGAIN

all of those charts and spike protein data and crap is just Jibber Jabber about Jibber Jabber. How many people in each controlled group got sick a second time??

 

[3Rfan]

With all of that JibberJabber it didn't break down to the easiest analysis that I know of (unless Imisssd it)

what percentage of people who got the original vaccination recommended contracted Covid AGAIN

vs

What percentage of people who got Covid, were never vaccinated at any time,,,then got Covid AGAIN

all of those charts and spike protein data and crap is just Jibber Jabber about Jibber Jabber. How many people in each controlled group got sick a second time??

How sick did the unvaxed get compared to the vaxed?

 

[cardsrock15]

How sick did the unvaxed get compared to the vaxed?

Who cares??? Good lord people get on with your life

 

[r14veer]

With all of that JibberJabber it didn't break down to the easiest analysis that I know of (unless Imisssd it)

what percentage of people who got the original vaccination recommended contracted Covid AGAIN

vs

What percentage of people who got Covid, were never vaccinated at any time,,,then got Covid AGAIN

all of those charts and spike protein data and crap is just Jibber Jabber about Jibber Jabber. How many people in each controlled group got sick a second time??

It is jibber jabber...to people who aren't trained to read and interpret it. You don't know what you don't know.

 

[Veer2Eternity]

Who cares??? Good lord people get on with your life

So you keep commenting on it?

Logical.

 

[r14veer]

Who cares??? Good lord people get on with your life

Families care, workplaces care (at least in terms of lost hours of productivity), etc.

 

[3Rfan]

Who cares??? Good lord people get on with your life

I'd bet those that have more severe cases have a better chance of the lasting issues that no wants to talk about but they're out there and many of them last a LONG time and some they don't know if it will ever get better.

 

[cardsrock15]

It is jibber jabber...to people who aren't trained to read and interpret it. You don't know what you don't know.

how many people in each group got covid again??

 

[revno]

how many people in each group got covid again??

How many people in each group have died of covid since the first of the year?

 

[kaskaskiakid]

How much wood could a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood?

 

[revno]

Who cares about the woodchuck!

 

[Veer2Eternity]

I'm beat so gonna try to deflect and distract. ITS ALL WE KNOW

 

[kaskaskiakid]

Trump 101 - Deny, deflect, and distract!!!

 

[kaskaskiakid]

Back to the topic of immunization....has anyone else ever wondered where we would be if EVERYONE would have gotten a vaccination as soon as it was available? Would we have as high inflation, high gas prices, mandate controversy, ships sitting in ports waiting be to unloaded, the number of deaths and hospitalizations, on and on...

I believe history will prove that the vaccine is harmless except in very rare cases, and effective in minimizing the number of deaths and hospitalizations. The unvaccinated will not only look foolish, but also be largely responsible for not only the spread, severity, and duration of the pandemic, and the economic ramifications of the pandemic.

There!! I said it - What many vaccinated people are thinking!!!!!!!!!

 

[Veer2Eternity]

Back to the topic of immunization....has anyone else ever wondered where we would be if EVERYONE would have gotten a vaccination as soon as it was available? Would we have as high inflation, high gas prices, mandate controversy, ships sitting in ports waiting be to unloaded, the number of deaths and hospitalizations, on and on...

I believe history will prove that the vaccine is harmless except in very rare cases, and effective in minimizing the number of deaths and hospitalizations. The unvaccinated will not only look foolish, but also be largely responsible for not only the spread, severity, and duration of the pandemic, and the economic ramifications of the pandemic.

There!! I said it - What many vaccinated people are thinking!!!!!!!!!

Trump will go down as one of the 3 worst presidents of all time. His selfish narcissism wounded this great nation to the core.

 

[hb1025]

Trump will go down as one of the 3 worst presidents of all time. His selfish narcissism wounded this great nation to the core.

I’m sure Biden will be right next to him

 

[bullitpdq68]

I’m sure Biden will be right next to him

Yep thanks to Trump we got Biden, and thanks to Biden we might get Trump agian....

Looking ahead just wondering who is out there however? Such a crapy field...where are all the good leaders gone?

 

[bullitpdq68]

Woodchucks carry coronavirus.

Dang Woodchucks...

 

[Veer2Eternity]

I’m sure Biden will be right next to him

For what policy or decision?

Thanks.

 

[kaskaskiakid]

Yep thanks to Trump we got Biden, and thanks to Biden we might get Trump agian....

Looking ahead just wondering who is out there however? Such a crapy field...where are all the good leaders gone?

I hear ya, bullit. I m open to anyone besides both of those old farts. And now Hillary making rumblings of running. I can't believe this is the best we can do.

Now is the time to form a viable third party candidate and party. There is a division in both parties, mostly among moderates. A young, intelligent, charismatic, moderate candidate would have wide appeal. And I think many Americans are fed up with both parties.

 

[hb1025]

For what policy or decision?

Thanks.

What has he done that was good? Biden is a bigger idiot than Trump

 

[bullitpdq68]

I hear ya, bullit. I m open to anyone besides both of those old farts. And now Hillary making rumblings of running. I can't believe this is the best we can do.

Now is the time to form a viable third party candidate and party. There is a division in both parties, mostly among moderates. A young, intelligent, charismatic, moderate candidate would have wide appeal. And I think many Americans are fed up with both parties.

100% agree with you, I consider myself lean moderate maybe a bit conservative if I am being honest, but I get along well with moderate leaning Dems, if they are truly moderate. So I think many of us are being forced to one party or another who could find a home in a new Moderate party.

Because wow both parties right now seem to have gone down a deep dark rabbit hole...I never thought I would see Dems and Pubs agreeing that rioting is good well only if it benefits your cause....

 

[kaskaskiakid]

What has he done that was good? Biden is a bigger idiot than Trump

I favored the infrastructure bill, minus the pork and bull crap add ons. Have you crossed the Chester bridge lately? It's about shot!!

 

[bullitpdq68]

I favored the infrastructure bill, minus the pork and bull crap add ons. Have you crossed the Chester bridge lately? It's about shot!!

So did most Republicans when Trump was wanting to get it done....

 

[hb1025]

I favored the infrastructure bill, minus the pork and bull crap add ons. Have you crossed the Chester bridge lately? It's about shot!!

It’s been shot for many years lol. My problem with BBB plan is not enough money would be spent on roads and bridges plus you would have politicians,lawyers and engineering firms lining their pockets with money. Greedy men would screw it up. I know the American way

 

[3Rfan]

It’s been shot for many years lol. My problem with BBB plan is not enough money would be spent on roads and bridges plus you would have politicians,lawyers and engineering firms lining their pockets with money. Greedy men would screw it up. I know the American way

Road and bridge money is in the infrastructure bill, it has nothing to do with BBB.

 

[Veer2Eternity]

What has he done that was good? Biden is a bigger idiot than Trump

Got us out of Trashcanistan. (I know the trumpers were hoping for mucho American deaths)

Not fighting the interest rate hike that will eventually get inflation under control.

Those two things alone top anything donnieboy ever did.

 

[hb1025]

And he did such a fine job. Americans died innocent men ,women and children died. Outstanding job

 

[3Rfan]

How many of those same kind of people died there in the last 20 years?

 

[kaskaskiakid]

And the US State Dept issued an advisory for all American civilians to leave in February. My ass would have been on the next plane!!

 

[hb1025]

How many of those same kind of people died there in the last 20 years?

No clue but Biden gave the ok to bomb the wrong people

 

[Veer2Eternity]

No clue but Biden gave the ok to bomb the wrong people

He had the sack to get us out of that armpit of the earth.
You guys just wish there had been more Americans killed.

It's funny watching the trumpers flail after made up 'issues' every day. Their media masters own their minds.

 

[hb1025]

Dude you can’t stand to admit Biden is an idiot and he’s just as bad as Trump. Keep on stroking it

 

[Veer2Eternity]

Dude you can’t stand to admit Biden is an idiot and he’s just as bad as Trump. Keep on stroking it

Nobody since Wilson is as bad as trump.
If trump hadn't brought on this inflation you would have nothing to be madmad about.

 

[hb1025]

Smoking the good stuff

 

[kaskaskiakid]

Yeah hb1025, it's hard to defend Biden right now. Covid has driven most of our problems that absolutely started in DJT's last year. Remember the toilet paper shortage? National gas prices were at $2.79 and climbing when Trump left office. Hopefully we have seen the last variant of corona. The vid has clearly been the root of our economic woes. Joe will have 2 years for the economy to get better.

hb, are you sold on Trump as the Rep candidate in '24? I'm curious to see who will challenge him. I would consider voting for a Rep other than Trump. Biden will be 82 in '24, Trump 78. Both are declining mentally, most 80 yr olds do. Time for somebody younger than Moses!!

I hate that it may be Trump vs Biden II, I'm open to anybody new from either party. I don't think Trump can win in '24, Jan 6 was the last straw for the majority of Americans. But another Rep candidate could appeal to moderates and independents like me.

 

[hb1025]

No I hoop Trump doesn’t run. I’m not a Pub or a Dem. I voted for Trump because I couldn’t vote for Clinton or Biden. It upsets me that both sides pick the worst possible people to run for pres the last 2 elections.

 

[kaskaskiakid]

No I hoop Trump doesn’t run. I’m not a Pub or a Dem. I voted for Trump because I couldn’t vote for Clinton or Biden. It upsets me that both sides pick the worst possible people to run for pres the last 2 elections.

100% agree buddy! - I want somebody new and moderate!!

 

[bullitpdq68]

No I hoop Trump doesn’t run. I’m not a Pub or a Dem. I voted for Trump because I couldn’t vote for Clinton or Biden. It upsets me that both sides pick the worst possible people to run for pres the last 2 elections.

It's all about the money, I really wish the DOJ would investagate the Pub's and Dem's parties, talk about coruption and talk about swampy.... They determine who we get to vote for they are the ones who push a canidate. I will say that is the one thing Trump shook up the Pub party a bit....but he was as crooked as the party.