Question for the day?
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As much as it takes to fund the programs we feel are necessary
You can't evaluate one without the other
You can't evaluate one without the other
Entitlement = liberal handout
Your Money = Your Money
The two words do not coincide therefore your question cannot be answered specifically.
Why dont you just kill all the poor people getting handouts scout? Or at least put them in concentration camps. Like a good christian. You and the WCS guy are really men of god. Poor people please die unless you go to Scouts church. You want police and roads without paying any taxes. You two are filth.
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You are a Never Trumper so therefore your opinion on him and his supporters doesn't count.
Why do you not stick to athletics?
After all, you are an Athletic Supporter...
You are a Never Trumper so therefore your opinion on him and his supporters doesn't count.
Why do you not stick to athletics?
After all, you are an Athletic Supporter...
You are hands down the blasphemous Anti-Christ. WCS will see you in hell.
Liberals are great at picking out some obscure case of someone who claims to be a conservative/Trump supporter/Christian/whatever that acts stupidly while overlooking the PUBLIC actions from ORGANIZED liberal efforts that are VERY extreme.
If we used the tax dollars for only the things allowed by the constitution we could have roads paved with Gold and Silver and cops on every street corner.
And your family members would have polio, aids or zika. Thousands more would die during each hurricane. And we would have never been an economic power because our uneducated work force would be too stupid to innovate. But carry on with your imaginary doubts about our nation.
If it weren't allowed by the constitution they couldn't spend money on it.
Why do you understand the Constitution so poorly?
If only this nut could see what is below his post...
BANKRUPT- Thanks Obama
-$535,000,000.00
If you actually believe our government runs efficiently you need help. It is bloated, inefficient, and corrupt. They have collected trillions and trillions in taxes and run us a couple of hundred trillion in the hole.
These are the "bright guys" you are so fond of.
The professional politicians.
The most educated our nation has to offer.
You really can't be serious? The people that don't understand and continually squander our money simply choose to ignore it. Just like Obama simply chose to ignore it when he mandated private citizens to purchase health insurance or pay a fine.
I have a good idea where you are going with this and it is the same argument spenders always make when they want to ignore what the founders intended when they wrote it.
The Taxing and Spending clause contains the General Welfare clause and uniformity clause. This clause gives the federal government the right to tax for "two reasons" and two reasons only. To pay debts of the country and to provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States. General welfare is not intended as a redistribution of wealth program, but for the operation of the government and for national defense.
When we get in the business of deciding how much a person should be allowed to keep of their acquired wealth we are going against everything the founders believed in and fought for.
Operation of government is an incredibly broad statement, and the Hamiltonian interpretation of the general welfare clause has been winning for 230 years.
This is not some new concept - our very first President supported the idea that Congress had the authority to intervene in private markets such as agriculture to promote the "general welfare" of the country.
By definition, we are in the business of deciding how much of a person's income is taken by the government every year. There is an entire amendment dedicated to this idea.
The government promotes better outcomes for the average person, that's a production that would not be accomplished nearly as efficiently by the private sector.
This idea that the government does nothing is laughable. Government action has helped to make America a technology powerhouse due to the dynamic way it manages the economy and educates its citizens. Government action keeps tens of millions of people out of poverty and provides for a higher quality of life for the average American. It makes sure the food you eat is safe. It defends us in times of war and peace. Etc.
Hamilton's interpretation won for a reason - the average person is better off in a society where the government takes intelligent action to promote the general welfare of the average person.
I think we are well past the government doing only useful things to "help" the average person and we have been for decades. The main role of the government now is to pick winners and losers, and tax the hell out of business and people who have success. They believe they are smarter than the citizens they are paid to serve, so we get stuck with mandatory retirement and health care. It has become what Churchill once said...."the equal sharing of misery."
Stick to one argument. You went from complaining about general welfare being unconsititional to complaining about how income taxes work.
mandatory retirement and health care??? The horrors!!! What's next, mandatory education???
Government old age health care and government pensions are not the result of legislators. They are the result of the American population wanting sensible policy that benefits the average person. These are the absolute best example of why your viewpoint has no prayer of ever coming into vogue. The programs work for the average person. They know it and like them!
mandatory retirement and health care??? The horrors!!! What's next, mandatory education???
Government old age health care and government pensions are not the result of legislators. They are the result of the American population wanting sensible policy that benefits the average person. These are the absolute best example of why your viewpoint has no prayer of ever coming into vogue. The programs work for the average person. They know it and like them!
People tend to like things that comes at someone else's expense. I'm just not real big on socialism.
The average person pays a decent amount for Medicare, SS, and education. This stuff isn't free.
It's part of why people generally are more ok with paying these taxes than other income taxes. They feel like the programs directly benefit them in the long run.
It's part of why people generally are more ok with paying these taxes than other income taxes. They feel like the programs directly benefit them in the long run.
You're not real big on compassion for your fellow man either.
What the he!! do you expect from an insurance salesman, that has coached 500 intramural games and brags about it?
Who has mandatory retirement these days? From what I can tell republicans want everybody to work till they die, that way they can't draw whatever retirement they paid into.
They want us all to work until we die and spend our entire life savings paying medical bills at the end of our life. That gives them wood. Its also a great way to avoid the death tax because there will be no inheritance.
I think I'll put my charitable contributions up against yours about any day you want to compare them. I just prefer that I be the one deciding when to make them and not the federal government.
This is the problem with our society today, most you guys have been conditioned to accept the fact that you can't do anything without the government being involved and I simply think that is bull crap.
The government mandating that we have to purchase anything is against everything this country has ever stood for. I don't care if it's Social Security, healthcare, or anything else that they think is in my best interest. I'm an adult and I can make up my own mind on what I need. You guys might have a problem with that I get along just fine.
No they don't want you paying medical bills at the end of your life. They want you to stop using doctors and hospitals period. If you get cancer and can't afford the treatment, go off and die.
You're blaming the wrong people for the high cost of health care.
Of course we need some income tax, but when you have people paying over 50% of what they make in taxes then I believe we have more than exceeded not only what is reasonable, but also what is actually needed.
It is not the role of the federal government to make decisions on a person's retirement, healthcare, etc. If I choose not to save a penny for my retirement then I reap what I sow. All we have succeeded in doing the past 80-90 years or so is raise generation after generation of people that are now conditioned to believe they can't make it without the federal government involved. The government is a blood sucker. They more they have control of, the more they want to control. That is both parties. The Republican establishment is just as bad as the liberal Democrats. If people are allowed to live their lives without all this constant interference from government we will be a lot better off in the long run. The proof is in the pudding guys. We are on the verge of an economic disaster if someone doesn't begin to control this out of control spending. You simply can't be everything to everyone.
Basically every government has mandated you purchase things since the dawn of human civilization. That's the whole point of shared taxation and spending. I think the US wastes a lot of money on national defense through pork for contractors, but I don't have a choice to pay less for that.
The only difference on health care is they took a Republican approach to mandate the spending be via private providers instead of taking a large tax in to pay for it via a central government provider.
God forbid we raise generation after generation who think that they should be able to die without being in poverty. What terrible people who are willing to efficiently set aside a portion of their income to ensure they have medical care and basic income in retirement.
The real problem you have is that the program works for the average person better than private market solutions ever have. SS and Medicare are never going away.
