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On that vein of thought, you might be interested in the book "When Bad Things Happen to Good People" by Harold Kushner
 
My 2 cents on the Bible argument. Fear is a natural human emotion just like sorrow, anger, etc. So fear in itself is not a sin, however I believe the Biblical principle is that to live in a state of fear, that is to live without trusting God and believing He can handle things is. It might be semantics but the sin is the lack of faith and not trusting that God is in control not the emotion of fear. Trusting God is not an absence of common sense, just because I belief God is in control so I don't fear the future doesn't mean I should be reckless or not careful to keep myself safe.
 
Cmon, do you have to fear to leave a burning house? Common sense does that.
Show me where God says to be afraid for your own good.

Yes you do, most of the things we avoid is because of fear. Fear of others finding out. Chris, which I know is not your real name.. do your fear people knowing who you are when posting here? I mean you hiding behind a screen name and not posting under your real name is because of fear of others knowing who you are. So under your understanding of fear you are sinning every time you post on this board.
 
Do you question whether adultery is a sin?
Adultery is a sin because God says not to do it. I've shown many examples of God saying not to fear. Can you show me where adultery or fear are encouraged?


The difference between the two is that one is in a list of Commandments directly stated and even put into stone by God himself and the other is not. The other is your particular interpretation of context-less quotations. I can do that too with these quotations that show that fear is something that we should do, indeed, that we are directly told to do:

"The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge;
fools despise wisdom and instruction" (Proverbs 1:7).

“And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather fear him who can destroy both soul and body in hell” (Matthew 10:28).

"The fear of you and the dread of you shall be upon every beast of the earth and upon every bird of the heavens, upon everything that creeps on the ground and all the fish of the sea. Into your hand they are delivered" (Genesis 9:2).

These are all about fear of God, of course; nonetheless, they are about fear being something we should have. Your argument doesn't say that fear of God is excluded in this, just that fear is a sin and that nowhere in the bible does it say that fear is good. I am directly refuting that without resorting to specious argument or editorializing.

This semantic argument about "common sense" is also ignoring that a good deal of common sense is based on fear. Fear of discomfort, fear of confrontation, fear of death, fear of losing a child, fear of being found out... We all make judgments based on those little fears and call it "common sense," but make no mistake, the root emotion is fear for a large portion of what we term "common sense."
 
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This is pretty much where i'm at except, there are lots of natural human emotions that ARE sin. I still need some scripture that would indicate God thinks fear is ever proper. All this arose from a poster saying he was demonstrating Gods love by wearing a mask and running from anyone who didn't. Seems like your post would agree that is allowing fear to control you (sin).
Rockhurst Recruits :)

Now that’s a sin we can all agree on
 
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I was wondering how long it would take for someone to bring up "fear the lord". Anyone that thinks it is saying to be afraid of God is sadly mistaken.
I've never said I or we don't sin. Just because we do it naturally doesn't make it alright.

Still not seeing where someone was commended for or encouraged to fear (unless you are sticking to the "fear the Lord" argument).

The Proverbs are full of wise vs foolish examples. We aren't told to be afraid of foolishness, we are told to not be foolish. Is not sticking your hand in a fire because of fear or wisdom? Wisdom (common sense) isn't a result of fear unless you think we are animals trained by reward/punishment.

Not only to fear, but dread even. I will be sticking to the fear (and dread) the lord argument because of how you worded your original argument in absolute terms.

Answer me this (preferably without resorting to yet another logical fallacy if you can help it): why is it wise to not stick your hand in a fire? Because you might get burned, right? I'll do this by fill in the blank: you are _ _ _ _ _ _ to get burned. That is wisdom motivated by a fear. Is everything that is wise or "common sense" motivated by a fear? No, but it really can't be argued that a good deal of it isn't. That is, it can't be argued logically.

Also, what in the world makes you think that we aren't motivated by reward and punishment? That is the very core of a free market economy! So are we or aren't we motivated by reward/punishment? You don't have to answer; it is a rhetorical question, since the answer is self-evident.

Abandon thread.
 
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