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Niether do you!!! Overall records of the program aren't set up with what you choose to pull from them. Since 2005 LN has beat them all but 2 times. Sounds like a pretty dominate fact. You can't sit there and act like you know for a fact they didn't do that.
Sooo, you think this coaching staff and last year's give a crap about what happened in 2005? Man go on somewhere with that. Stop speculating.
 
You can relish my brat all you want
Sooo, you think this coaching staff and last year's give a crap about what happened in 2005? Man go on somewhere with that. Stop speculating.
ALL I KNOW IS TRINITY IS...……………

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Since Monett does not currently have enough good athletes to compete with the elite of class 4... When enrollments are turned in this spring to MSHSAA, they should just turn in an enrollment that will put them in a classification they can compete in. Not a likely scenario... however.

As I posted earlier Ritter and Trinity both provided MSHSAA with false inflated enrollments for this cycle ('18-'19) to get bumped up to Class 3. If both schools were honest and provided actual enrollments they would be in class 2... in a district with Lutheran North... again
Their arrogance manipulated the entire MSHSAA classification process to avoid being in this district. Why did Cardinal Ritter and Trinity Catholic get to dictate what class they wanted to compete in?


You know what would really be nice, if a school like Monett could go to all other schools that boarder our school district and offer all their best athletes a scholarship of free tuition to attend Monett and not worry about MSHSAA questioning it just like the private schools can. Then we could build a football power house.

And you know what is really scary to think about, you could add all of Purdy, Verona's along with Pierce City's high school kids to ours and we still would still be smack in the middle of Class 4. So why can't we just have those kids come play football for us no questions asked?
 
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Surely you're not dumb enough to believe the two schools did this to dodge Lutheran North. First, Trinity and LN look forward to playing one another, and I know this for sure. Secondly, the two teams are 1-1 against one another the last couple of years, so who is dodfing who? Third, Cardinal Ritterbhas not even faced LN the last couple of years in the playoffs. Guess who they did face, though? Trinity. So why would they move up to class 3 to dodge a team they haven't really faced only to possibly play the same team that has beaten them twice the precious season. Your theory makes no sense.

Some of you hate these schools just because. At first it was "Trinity isn't for real and won't win Class 3." Now that it's clear that they are a legit contender to win Class 3, now they moved up to avoid LN. Good grief...

Nope I am not dumb enough to believe they did this to dodge LN... Hypothetically lets say Trinity, Ritter, and LN all knew they were going to be good this year. They also knew that unless something changed they were all gonna be in the same class 2 district again. (as a fan this would make for some great football games) 1 moves on and 2 go home.
In the same hypothetical situation... Coaches from T, LN, and CR got together last winter to brainstorm ways keep from being in the same district. Trinity being located the furthest north of the three and Ritter being the furthest south of the three it made sense that those 2 would inflate their enrollments and move up into class 3 while LN would remain in 2. This semifinal rotation allowed for Trinty and Ritter to meet in the state championship (this is prolly a coincidence)

The enrollment numbers are not theory, and when comparing other private co-ed enrollments from last 2 cycles, Trinity and Ritter stand out... way out. Explain how last year 87 new students enrolled in Cardinal Ritter , and 79 at Trinity.

An old head once told me... "The collusion of private Catholic schools and private Lutheran schools threaten the spirit of high school football that makes America great."
 
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Nope I am not dumb enough to believe they did this to dodge LN... Hypothetically lets say Trinity, Ritter, and LN all knew they were going to be good this year. They also knew that unless something changed they were all gonna be in the same class 2 district again. (as a fan this would make for some great football games) 1 moves on and 2 go home.
In the same hypothetical situation... Coaches from T, LN, and CR got together last winter to brainstorm ways keep from being in the same district. Trinity being located the furthest north of the three and Ritter being the furthest south of the three it made sense that those 2 would inflate their enrollments and move up into class 3 while LN would remain in 2. This semifinal rotation allowed for Trinty and Ritter to meet in the state championship (this is prolly a coincidence)

The enrollment numbers are not theory, and when comparing other private co-ed enrollments from last 2 cycles, Trinity and Ritter stand out... way out. Explain how last year 87 new students enrolled in Cardinal Ritter , and 79 at Trinity.

An old head once told me... "The collusion of private Catholic schools and private Lutheran schools threaten the spirit of high school football that makes America great."
Now this makes more sense than the "dodging so and so" theory that was stupidly thrown out there. The enrollment numbers are what they are, so there is no arguing that. It's the jumping out there and confidently stating that the teams moved up to dodge another team without knowing that irks me.
 
Sounds like we are in the same boat lmao It must be my public school education lol
Except you're speculating and won't admit you're doing so. I'm not pretending to know why either team moved up, just stating that I know the reason you put out there is not true.
 
Now this makes more sense than the "dodging so and so" theory that was stupidly thrown out there. The enrollment numbers are what they are, so there is no arguing that. It's the jumping out there and confidently stating that the teams moved up to dodge another team without knowing that irks me.
You are correct the enrollment numbers are facts and seems pretty odd when you compare that to other private schools.
 
Except you're speculating and won't admit you're doing so. I'm not pretending to know why either team moved up, just stating that I know the reason you put out there is not true.
Sounds the same to me. Me pretending and you claiming you know for a fact that it isn't true. Seems we meet common ground lol good day
 
Why do we have a parent or ex coach of LN or Trinity arguing on this forum? Ugh......
So knowing folks from both teams makes me a parent or ex coach? Ok, I must be a parent or ex coach of Jennings High School basketball and football along with CBC football as well.
 
So knowing folks from both teams makes me a parent or ex coach? Ok, I must be a parent or ex coach of Jennings High School basketball and football along with CBC football as well.
Thanks for your private school insight....It is much appreciated. Maybe with Acosta being out for CNN you could jump right in for them. Fake News Lol
 
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Thanks for your private school insight....It is much appreciated. Maybe with Acosta being out for CNN you could jump right in for them. Fake News Lol
Jennings isn't a private school. What fake news did I deliver? Last I recall, you were the one trying to tell us why Trinity and LN moved up. THAT is fake news.
 
You aren't aware when it comes to quite a few things incliding Cardinal Ritter, Lutheran North, and Trinity football.
Well sarcasm must not be understood with you but regardless you said CBC which is private so that makes you an expert when it comes to LN, Ritter, and Trinity lol talk to you later fake news
 
You aren't aware when it comes to quite a few things incliding Cardinal Ritter, Lutheran North, and Trinity football.
Next time I need information from someone that knows someone that knows someone that is completely factual I will know who to contact :)
 
Next time I need information from someone that knows someone that knows someone that is completely factual I will know who to contact :)
That's cute and all, but it still doesn't change the fact that what you stated is false.
 
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I think the success modifier is a decent idea in principle because it elevates the smaller high performing schools into a more appropriate level of competition. But in reality it's much more complicated and overall I don't care for the concept.

What I do find more interesting is one state I read about that uses participation rates among other things including poverty etc to move a school up (or down) from their enrollment based classification. Enrollment only recognizes theoretical depth and talent pool but doesn't account for schools with other factors going on that ultimately help or hurt the numbers that end up on the field and sideline. So for example if a school like Springfield Central has 1600 students but only gets 35 kids out for football they are get moved down and maybe more than one level especially if poverty is widespread among students because that tends to translate into low participation lack of focus and instability. A school like Webb City that has 1100 students and 150 kids playing football gets moved up to class 6 because their actual football numbers are in line with class 6 schools.

I do like the idea of separating private schools but you also have to keep in mind that not every private school focuses on athletics. No one around here is complaining about College Heights or TJ. Like anything there is no perfect solution. Some schools (even some publics) are just going to be better and have fortunate circumstances that other schools will never be able to replicate no matter what they do.
This^^^^^
 
That was AWESOME! I was starting to think there wasn’t going to be anyone really get emotional about the subject and I’d have to drink this coffee without the deliciously salty tears I enjoy so much. You should storm MSHSAA’s meetings during the off-season and demand reform! Point out the grand conspiracy you’ve uncovered. I don’t think you’ll be able to get past the metal detectors with your foil hat, so make sure you scream extra loud to get your point across to them and they’ll know how serious you are.
Lol…oh my.
 
What if Missouri had open-enrollment like Arizona and Florida does? Give every public high school the same level of funding from the state and allow kids to attend whatever public school their families choose to send them to? If a school is outside of a specific distance, then the parents are responsible for transporting their kids themselves. Families can put their kids in whatever school they want and public schools can all pull kids from wherever they want to.
The other possibility that seems to work is to have an “open” Division, like we have here in California. Almost all of the “national,” heavy hitters like DeLaSalle, Mater Dei, Grant, Poly, etc. usually choose to compete in this Division, opening up the remaining divisions to competition on a more even playing field. Schools can also choose to play “up” a Division if they like. It hasn’t stopped all the whining, but you don’t have all these red herrings.
 
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The other possibility that seems to work is to have an “open” Division, like we have here in California. Almost all of the “national,” heavy hitters like DeLaSalle, Mater Dei, Grant, Poly, etc. usually choose to compete in this Division, opening up the remaining divisions to competition on a more even playing field. Schools can also choose to play “up” a Division if they like. It hasn’t stopped all the whining, but you don’t have all these red herrings.

Missouri only takes football mildly seriously. There won’t be any significant changes (even if those changes made a tremendous amount of sense) because this is Missourah and change is scary. I’m waiting for folks to suggest we make forward passes illegal and go back to leather helmets.
 
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