POLL: Which sport takes longer to become proficient in?
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Regardless of your definition of "Proficient", I vote basketball...
My 9 year old son plays with the same group of kids for football, baseball, and basketball; they hardly ever lose a game in either football or baseball, but this same group of kids have only won one basketball game in two years of playing together(basketball's just a different animal, at least in my observation; as a team sport, it seems to almost border on having to read your teammates' minds in order to execute on offense...)
My 9 year old son plays with the same group of kids for football, baseball, and basketball; they hardly ever lose a game in either football or baseball, but this same group of kids have only won one basketball game in two years of playing together(basketball's just a different animal, at least in my observation; as a team sport, it seems to almost border on having to read your teammates' minds in order to execute on offense...)
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But overall, baseball. Younger ages are easier with hitting with the larger barrel. But just the ability to make repeated contact is a feat on its own. Pitching, to really stand out...all mental. It's a chess match,always needing to be 3 moves ahead of the hitter
Or just the ability to get the correct movement on pitches, while putting it in the correct location
But overall, baseball. Younger ages are easier with hitting with the larger barrel. But just the ability to make repeated contact is a feat on its own. Pitching, to really stand out...all mental. It's a chess match,always needing to be 3 moves ahead of the hitter
Or just the ability to get the correct movement on pitches, while putting it in the correct location
It would be different for nearly every kid on the planet. Some sports come more naturally to one than it does the other. It takes a lot of work to be REALLY good at any of them but it comes easier in different sports for different kids. There is NO correct answer as to which one takes longer.
Im gonna have to agree with 3Rfan on this one. Trying to see how long it takes one to become proficient at baseball compared to football is hard to do. It also boils down to position. Becoming proficient at pitching takes a lot longer than a left fielder. And how would you compare the length of time it takes to become proficient at a pitcher compared to a left tackle?
Overall, I think basketball would be the toughest to become proficient in...or take longer, as you said. Very skill specific sport that includes almost all of the other skills of the other two sports mentioned, plus a few more. Most basketball players are asked to do everything...defend, rebound, dribble, pass, shoot, run, jump, catch. The only caveat I would add is, baseball has the toughest skill to be proficient at. Hitting a moving object with a round implement. Even the best contact hitters in the MLB still K at a rate greater than 10% of the time. Some really, really good hitters K 1 out of every 5 plate appearances.
Do we all get to hear the purpose of your poll at some point?(...or is it just to prove a point to somebody in the real world?)
I do find it quite telling that football is trailing BOTH baseball and basketball on a FOOTBALL board(not that I disagree
Sad you know it's different for every kid and MUCH easier for some. There have been plenty of guys that could have gone pro in baseball or football. Tell me it didn't come easier for them than almost anybody else in the world. It's NOT always about how hard you work at something, sometimes it about your God given abilities. I was a decent baseball player when I was young but I was about 5'9" and 150lbs back them. I could have worked 18 hours a day and never made it even to a high college level, much less the professional level. There is a reason baseball scouts are looking for guys that look like Greek Gods. They want that kind of body linked with the ability to hit a baseball a long way or throw it 90+ with movement. They will teach you the rest and find a position for you.
There have been some little guys make it too but that ain't what their lookin for when they go scouting HS and college kids. Hard work is not what made those guys so good either. Anybody that makes it big has to do the work, but they also have the natural talent.
But that's the same for any of those sports. You have to have the talent to make it big in any of those sports.
I think baseball would be the hardest. You can throw a really good athlete on the football field and he will be good almost immediately. Put an athletic big guy on the court and he will be a force immediately. Even a good athlete will struggle at the plate some until he gets quite a few reps in. As someone said, it's a tough skill when 30% success rate is very good.
Well if this is the definition of a Greek God, I need to go back to school and study Greek mythology
It depends on your definition of proficient and the position that you play in each sport. If you are a good athlete and can run I think you can pretty quickly become a proficient defensive back or linebacker. It will take a lot more than that to be a proficient QB. In basketball if you are a good athlete and tall it won't take a long time to be a pretty good PF. To be a PG it is going to take hours and hours of dribbling a basketball. In baseball being a great athlete is a plus but it honestly isn't always necessary. To be a proficient hitter, fielder, pitcher or catcher will take quite a lot of time.
I know in my case I put in literally thousands of hours from the time I was a little kid playing baseball through my stint in the minors. No matter how many hours I would have put in to football I don't think I would have been as successful. I put in a fraction as much time in basketball as I did in baseball and still could have played college basketball if I had opted to but I was tall.
I would say for an average height, average size person of slightly above average athletic ability that the highest potential would be in baseball but it would probably take the most time.
I know in my case I put in literally thousands of hours from the time I was a little kid playing baseball through my stint in the minors. No matter how many hours I would have put in to football I don't think I would have been as successful. I put in a fraction as much time in basketball as I did in baseball and still could have played college basketball if I had opted to but I was tall.
I would say for an average height, average size person of slightly above average athletic ability that the highest potential would be in baseball but it would probably take the most time.
Bingo.
It doesn't mean either of us are correct, but baseball has less players coming right out of high school into the "bigs" and making an impact. Even so with college. Kids play one or three years in college and can make an instant impact.
Obviously talent as some have mentioned makes a big deal no matter, but on a broad canvas it just seems that this holds true more for baseball than the other two sports.
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It doesn't mean either of us are correct, but baseball has less players coming right out of high school into the "bigs" and making an impact. Even so with college. Kids play one or three years in college and can make an instant impact.
Obviously talent as some have mentioned makes a big deal no matter, but on a broad canvas it just seems that this holds true more for baseball than the other two sports.
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I think to be GREAT in any of the sports takes
the same work and commitment. I understand
the point of 30% being sufficient at hitting in
baseball but if that's what you are you better be
a vacuum on D. As far as being able to step on
a field and play at an average level, basketball
might actually be the hardest. My point being
there's a lot of positions in Football you can hide
someone and you can hide an average fielder
in the outfield based on what you got on the
mound. On a basketball court there are 5 people.
Hard to hide a weakness. As far as going major
college or Pro I think they all take close to the
same work ethic and proficiency in what you do.
I can not believe a pitcher puts in any more time
than a QB or a QB more time than a guard in
basketball. I do however believe based on physical
size that baseball is far and above the easier sport
to be proficient in if it's even fair to say any can be easy.
the same work and commitment. I understand
the point of 30% being sufficient at hitting in
baseball but if that's what you are you better be
a vacuum on D. As far as being able to step on
a field and play at an average level, basketball
might actually be the hardest. My point being
there's a lot of positions in Football you can hide
someone and you can hide an average fielder
in the outfield based on what you got on the
mound. On a basketball court there are 5 people.
Hard to hide a weakness. As far as going major
college or Pro I think they all take close to the
same work ethic and proficiency in what you do.
I can not believe a pitcher puts in any more time
than a QB or a QB more time than a guard in
basketball. I do however believe based on physical
size that baseball is far and above the easier sport
to be proficient in if it's even fair to say any can be easy.
They are????????????????????Originally posted by Mitsurugi san:
...and yet Basketball is winning your poll
This post was edited on 2/25 4:41 PM by SadButTrue
They were till all the double handles logged inOriginally posted by SadButTrue:
They are????????????????????Originally posted by Mitsurugi san:
...and yet Basketball is winning your poll
This post was edited on 2/25 4:41 PM by SadButTrue
Just for askings sake cause Im not sure there is a definite answer to this. HUH? "Baseball has less players coming right out of high school into the bigs and making an impact". Isnt Baseball the only one of the three you can come out of high school and play? Then the "even in college kids play one or three (not two or to) and can make an instant impact". What?
I believe if a kid is good enough or even believes himself that he is good enough he should be able to play right out of high school in any sport. If you can enlist in the service with the chance to die serving your country right out of high school I'll be damn someone should be able to say your not old enough to play a pro sport. With that I think Football would unquestionably be the toughest just because of the physical nature of the game.
Exactly; I don't know of an 18 year old in the world whose body is physically mature enough to play in the NFL against giants who can run the 40 in 4.5!
According to various sources, Bubba Starling could be one of the games best defensive players right now, its his batting skills that are lacking however...
Mike Trout didn't come out of high school to become an immediate threat. Even he spent some time in the minors. There are very few that make it up while still a teen....and even less that make it a solid career
Bryce Harper is proof that all the talent in the world doesn't translate at a young age in the MLB all the time.
Bryce Harper is proof that all the talent in the world doesn't translate at a young age in the MLB all the time.
Basketball takes more specific skill such as pass, dribble, shoot, rebound, defend, hand / eye coordination, and use both hands, and more components of physical ability - speed, muscle strength, muscle endurance, aerobic endurance, agility, and reaction time, as well as mental abilities like anticipation and ability to make split second decisions.
You can be a great baseball or football player without several of those abilities.
The world's greatest athletes are in the NBA. Could you imagine Kevin Durant at wide receiver, Kidd-Gilchrist throwing a baseball, or Marc Gasol at defensive end??
You can be a great baseball or football player without several of those abilities.
The world's greatest athletes are in the NBA. Could you imagine Kevin Durant at wide receiver, Kidd-Gilchrist throwing a baseball, or Marc Gasol at defensive end??
What about King James at TE, oh my. With that being said I dont totally agree. Not sure if its right or wrong but there are plenty of guys in all leagues that could play another if not all three major sports and be allstars. Players like Elway were top picks in football and baseball. Imagine how Aaron Rodgers would be as a pitcher, straight smoke. I personally would think more NFL players are better athletes. Recievers, Dbacks etc. To many NBA guys cant dribble and way to many cant shoot a free throw LOL.
