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Playoff matchups set
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But is Centralia or Macon really that good? It's hard to tell with their schedule. I know comparing scores isn't the most accurate, but they barely beat Hallsville and Mexico. Hallsville finishes like 4th or 5th in the Tri-County. Mexico loses to SoBo who again is a middle of the pack TCC team. And to be honest I feel the Tri-County is way down this year, but where do you think Centralia or Macon would finish in the TCC this year? I think Macon and Centralia are in the same category as SoBo, Hallsville and Boonville, and I would not consider those teams close to state ranked caliber.
To round it all the way back to the original statement, I saw Kirksville this past week and I was not impressed at all. I know JC is not great, but I would still be surprised if they play within 2 scores of JC or Hannibal.
I think you are “hella” (as the kids say) projecting here. I don’t think Lamar will win state. Unless they play a perfect game against BO, and even still would be hard to imagine. You are being a dick bub. Idk what else to say. Words are absolutely being put in my mouth here.
I’m also once again NOT sure where I said they aren’t having good seasons still. Just not to the standard of the class 2 elite. The record IN THAT sense isn’t as telling. Idk man. You’re reaching to validate being really rude. Ofc just so something else doesn’t get pointed out, YES I can be too. Just throwing that out there.
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Macon was in the really good category until two weeks ago when they lost their stud RB to injury in the 1st Qtr of the Monroe City game. Not saying they would have won their district (one of the toughest in the state regardless of Class) as Higginsville is the real deal and Richmond is also great, but one of the better teams they have produced recently. Centralia is a notch below this season but much improved over the past few. Monroe City is properly placed in the Class 1 pecking order. The only other CCC team with a pulse South Shelby struggled against all the above and will bow out in district play.
Kirksville should win their 1st round district game, an accomplishment in of itself. Hannibal still wins this district imo.
You brought Macon up in a very negative way when they weren't even being discussed. Not just a one off sentence, but a whole paragraph. Take a gander in the mirror.
Dude. You got offended. Period. Negative because you didn’t like it? Or negative because it’s not true? Others are even questioning Macon right now on this thread. Are you sure this is out of my ass? Lol it was mentioned in a paragraph sure. I did bring them up questioning team’s schedules and who they have played. A football discussion. (Crazy stuff) Just a final thing, someone isn’t taking anything away from a team, or accomplishments from a team JUST because things can be true at once. They can have a great double digit win season, and ALSO not capable of getting out of a good district, it’s not slander. But it is how you took it.
I agree with that. Some years the CCC is absolutely loaded and some years I wonder how strong teams really are. I miss the few years when BO and Centralia played in the regular season. That is my only complaint with some of these conferences getting bigger. We don't get to see how teams stack up against other conferences as much.
Centralia and Macon are both solid teams that by most standards are considered pretty good football teams. No they're not title contending teams, there are just other teams that are really great teams ahead of them. I think every year there are always a handful of teams that are legit title contenders, then the next 10-20 teams after that aren't legit title contenders, but I would say still pretty good teams overall. This is where Macon and Centralia fall, and several Tri-County teams.
It's really clear who the title contenders are in Class 2 and 3. Then there are other teams who are ranked or in the top 20 that are pretty good teams still. To many people think if you aren't a threat to win the state title then you're not good, I don't think that way. I still see some pretty good football being played when it comes to those teams.
I also don't feel like the Tri-County is way down. If it's way down then it's never been up. I think it's still the same solid football conference it's always been. By no means do I think it's great overall, but solid. The problem is Blair Oaks for quite awhile has been way better than the rest with the exception of last year in their "down year", so it sometimes makes the conference look not as good when in reality it's pretty solid all the way around, except for Versailles. If you're standard to be considered good is Blair Oaks, then there are maybe a handful of Class 2 and 3 teams that can consider themselves good then. Tri-County overall has some pretty good football being played, this year is no different. A lot of teams are so even that the games are toss ups and they end up with similar records. Overall the Tri-County did pretty well in non-conference. Heck 3-6 California played Savannah close, granted it was the first game and Savannah could be a lot better now, while I think California is still the same.
Now the CMAC I do feel is not that good of a conference compared to the other conferences for schools their size. When looking at these teams and comparing some to how they were 5-10 years ago, this conference is struggling. I do think some programs are starting to see a turnaround though, which has been great to see.
My thought in saying the conference is down this year is outside of BO I don’t think anyone has a chance to make a run. Osage has a slight possibility if they can win their district. But in years past I’ve always thought there were 1 or 2 other teams that could make some noise in the playoffs. Cali made the semis like 3 years in a row. Hallsville was really good last year. Eldon had a team a few years back that lost to Mt Vernon. SoBo gave Trinity all they wanted a couple years ago. I just don’t feel any of the teams are on that level this year and are more on the mediocre side.
But I do agree that the CMAC is not very strong. Rock Bridge may be on the right track with Perkins there. Helias will always be solid and who knows if CC or JC can really turn the corner. Battle seems to be going in the wrong direction.
And Versailles beat Boonville and played Hallsville & California down to the wire. Tri-County was down this year, pretty average in the non-conference play.
I do agree, nobody in the Tri-County outside of Blair Oaks will make an actual legitimate run. Osage may just because their path is the easiest of all teams to get to a state semi, not necessarily because they're a top team in Class 3. I understand the line of thinking though, there really isn't a second team that would truly make a legitimate run.
Cards!!! You've returned! Like Aragorn coming to reclaim the throne of men in Gondor!
I also do agree. CMAC is not a strong competitive conference. i take Tri-County over CMAC any day. Helias is will be always solid as usually but after that they're are average teams. Rock Bridge the second best team in CMAC. I agree with Battle going in the wrong direction. Battle is a Class 5 School with a Small school Co-Op and they only Have "50 PLAYERS ON THEIR ROSTER".
the Good Part about CMAC they're not as bad as a conference than the NCMC. NCMC is one of the weakest conferences in the state, even CCC teams can destroyed them head to head not including Hannibal!!!
Hannibal would definitely have much tougher competition in the CCC year in and year out compared to the NCMC. Hannibal would not dominate the CCC like they do the NCMC. I think Macon could play with Hannibal and I would think Monroe City might be favored in that game this year.
I'd walk the hallways in Ampipe high school weekly. Sometimes daily. Did this right up until I retired as booster club president. I've heard all the phrases kids have used since the 80s. Regardless of whatever phrases they were using, high fives always got a GREAT response from the kids.
Hannibal would absolutely dominate the CCC. Did you mean CMAC? CCC teams would have no chance against Hannibal. Hannibal would definitely benefit from joining the CMAC in football.. They already play Helias, Jeff CIty, and Battle. Although, I heard that Battle is dropping Hannibal from their schedule after next season. Hannibal would be the smallest school in the conference but would definitely do well. Plus, it would better prepare them for the playoffs.
Agree to disagree. I have been following Northeast Missouri football for 30 years and I can tell you that in my opinion Hannibal would not dominate the CCC.
Over a 30 year span I would take the winner of the CCC vs Hannibal about 75% of the time.
There are some teams in the CCC that would have no chance vs Hannibal but the upper echelon of the CCC would absolutely not get dominated by Hannibal in my opinion.
Over a 30 year span I would take the winner of the CCC vs Hannibal about 75% of the time.
There are some teams in the CCC that would have no chance vs Hannibal but the upper echelon of the CCC would absolutely not get dominated by Hannibal in my opinion.
There is no way the CCC champ beats Hannibal 75% of the time, or even close to that. You do realize how good Hannibal usually is year in and year out. The number of athletes alone would cause major problems for any CCC team. On a good year, they may be able to play with Hannibal. Depth would at some point become a factor as well. I would take a bad Hannibal team (bad for Hannibal standards) to beat the CCC champ any time.
I don't think it would be 75% of the time. I definitely think that is a stretch. But take 2018 for instance, Monroe City beats Helias and Helias beats Hannibal. In 19, Helias beats Monroe City 49-24 and beats Hannibal 46-0. I was at both games and could tell you Monroe City was way more competitive that year than Hannibal. And Monroe City finished 3rd in the CCC that year I think. I think the winner of the CCC would compete with Hannibal most years, and beat them maybe 40% of the time. Last year would not have been close though.
Hannibal would have beat MC by 3 plus TDS last year. 75% is probably a stretch. I will bump it down to 60% and stick with that.
No way. Mexico and Moberly would have a really really tough time competing for a conference championship in the CCC every single year for the past 30 years. I might have been a bit high on the 75% but no way Hannibal wins the CCC 90% of the time and Moberly and Mexico don't even need brought into this equation.
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Agree that Mexico and Moberly would have no chance on a regular basis. Every once in a great while they have a team that could compete....but that is rare.
I agree with that. I meant to post it for Numba9. I think sometimes the smaller schools get looked down upon more than they should. I truly feel a lot of times the top 10 teams in Class 2 and 3 would compete in Class 4 and maybe even 5. Not saying they would win state titles by any means, but I think they would be competitve. Outside of probably the top 5 teams in Class 4, I would take the top 5 teams in Class 2 against any other Class 4 teams.
Yes especially this year in class 2. The top 5 in class 2 are extremely good football teams.
Once in the last 10 years...last year (which was probably Hannibal's best team ever that I can remember)
Hard to get there when you play All -star teams while you have to play with 'who you got'.
Trying to talk about football games and teams. Move along.
The top 5 in class 2 are good football teams, but lets be realistic only BO would be a threat in Class 5. The others wouldn't sniff the op 10 in class 5. Class 4 you could probably add LC and Lamar but bumping up 2 and 3 classes is a major chore.
Unless you can tailor your enrollment. Not having kids with IEPs, migrants , EMOs, etc. sure keeps your numbers down.
Also, if you have 80% of your boys that attend playing football it seems to create an advantage.
Just what I've seen over the past 40 years.
I have to disagree to this. yes Monroe City, Macon, Centralia, and sometimes Palmyra are good year in and out but they are no way CCC teams are Capable of playing up to Hannibal or vice verse. Back in 2019 Helias and Monroe City played each other and Helias won by 3 Td's.
