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1. I want bring back the Catch All Class and make it Class 4.

2.. you get only Play- up points if you beat a team by .500 or better in the regular season.

What I don't like is unbalanced districts, semifinals that don't have the 4 best teams

Pros: Gets rid of terrible district draws that eliminate 1 or 2 or 3 of the best teams in the state before week 11/12. Balances out geographical inequities. It could also balances out Private School Success in Class 2 and 3. Also it helps Class 4 differential. No matter if we go back to 5 Classes or go 7 Classes, or divided evenly. This way i just done is the best scenario for the playoffs.

Class 1 (54) 91-204
D1 Caruthersville
D2 St Vincent
D3 Marionville
D4 Adrian
D5 Tipton
D6 South Shelby
D7 Milan
D8 one of the Buchanans

Championship
St Vincent vs Marionville

Class 2 (53) 205-345
D1 Valle
D2 Borgia
D3 Fair Grove/Strafford
D4 Lamar
D5 Warsaw/Butler
D6 Blair Oaks
D7 Bowling Green
D8 Lafayette County

Championship
Blair Oaks vs D3/D4 Winner

Class 3 (54) 346-555
D1 Dexter
D2 Lift for Life
D3 John Burroughs
D4 Osage
D5 Seneca
D6 Pleasant Hill
D7 Odessa/Oak Grove
D8 Savannah
Championship
Seneca vs Savannah

Class 4 ( Catch-All) (48) 558-900
D1 Hillsboro
D2 Festus
D3 Lutheran North
D4 Parkway North
D5 Hannibal/Warrenton
D6 West Plains
D7 Warrensburg/Nevada
D8 Kearney/Smithville

Championship
East Bracket winner vs D8 Winner

Class 5 (54) 905- 1270
Stays the Same except for 2 schools move down to 4

Class 6 (42) 1278-1762
Stays the Same
 
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Class 1 is too big. Enrollment needs to stay under 200. At worse class 1 and 6 should be set at 48 and the other classes balanced out.

The point on a small class one was to encourage schools with low enrollment to play 11 man and slow down the number of schools dropping to 8 man.
 
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Just need 16 districts in Class 2 through 5 and 8 in Class 1. Also would make each week of the playoffs mean even more with rebranded titles.
 
HBL Pirates fan_1990 said:
1. I want bring back the Catch All Class and make it Class 4.

2.. you get only Play- up points if you beat a team by .500 or better in the regular season.

What I don't like is unbalanced districts, semifinals that don't have the 4 best teams

Pros: Gets rid of terrible district draws that eliminate 1 or 2 or 3 of the best teams in the state before week 11/12. Balances out geographical inequities. It could also balances out Private School Success in Class 2 and 3. Also it helps Class 4 differential. No matter if we go back to 5 Classes or go 7 Classes, or divided evenly. This way i just done is the best scenario for the playoffs.

Class 1 (54) 91-204
D1 Caruthersville
D2 St Vincent
D3 Marionville
D4 Adrian
D5 Tipton
D6 South Shelby
D7 Milan
D8 one of the Buchanans

Championship
St Vincent vs Marionville

Class 2 (53) 205-345
D1 Valle
D2 Borgia
D3 Fair Grove/Strafford
D4 Lamar
D5 Warsaw/Butler
D6 Blair Oaks
D7 Bowling Green
D8 Lafayette County

Championship
Blair Oaks vs D3/D4 Winner

Class 3 (54) 346-555
D1 Dexter
D2 Lift for Life
D3 John Burroughs
D4 Osage
D5 Seneca
D6 Pleasant Hill
D7 Odessa/Oak Grove
D8 Savannah
Championship
Seneca vs Savannah

Class 4 ( Catch-All) (48) 558-900
D1 Hillsboro
D2 Festus
D3 Lutheran North
D4 Parkway North
D5 Hannibal/Warrenton
D6 West Plains
D7 Warrensburg/Nevada
D8 Kearney/Smithville

Championship
East Bracket winner vs D8 Winner

Class 5 (54) 905- 1270
Stays the Same except for 2 schools move down to 4

Class 6 (42) 1278-1762
Stays the Same
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That idea does sound like #2
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BearsCountry said:
Just need 16 districts in Class 2 through 5 and 8 in Class 1. Also would make each week of the playoffs mean even more with rebranded titles.
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I think it would work but you could also have best teams in the state in the same District if they went 16. Could have Hillsboro/Festus Hannibal/Warrenton Fair Grove/Lamar or others good teams in the same districts. Also 3 or 4 team districts might have the same issue we have in Class 3 district 3. 7 teams who’ve really not the best team then other teams nearby.

8 districts in C1 will probably work, don’t know why mshsaa went with 4 districts anyway.
 
thesnow.flakegazette said:
Class 1 is too big. Enrollment needs to stay under 200. At worse class 1 and 6 should be set at 48 and the other classes balanced out.

The point on a small class one was to encourage schools with low enrollment to play 11 man and slow down the number of schools dropping to 8 man.
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48 in Class 1 and 6 will work out. It will make the differential in 1 and 6 higher but Class 2-5 lower its differential.

Why 48 in C1& C6 and divided evenly will work.

1. I hate Class 1/.05. Not enough schools. Travel is outrageous with 4 districts. 7 out of the 16 games in Class 1 this week is over 2 Hours one way and One game is around 9 hours round trip. No district games should be over 2 hours if it has to be necessary.

2. The differential is the middle classes like 3 and 4 has been spread apart usually.

3. Move some schools around in Classes and districts to give the best teams out of a tough district and let the best schools play in the Quarters and Semis

4. Some Districts this year feels more farther than usually is. No need for D5 in Class 4 & D5 in C3 to be that spread out.

5. Last and always Private Schools. Honestly I hope it spreads out the private schools. The more championship factor points u get, the more they move up in 1 or 2 Classes. It what I say the last thread, Both Valle or Lutheran North and others cant play up to 2 Schools. They won’t make it pass the Semis!!!
 
First of all, you may have too much time on your hands! Secondly, #3 would be a logistics nightmare not knowing who the “best teams” are before a season or two begins. Unless you have a plan to figure that out ….
 
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First of all, you may have too much time on your hands .
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After this comment I am taking off here until Friday Night. then am taking like a week off. I need definitely need break from here. It’s what I said. I have seen the word mosports than the word google on the web lately!!!
 
HBL Pirates fan_1990 said:
48 in Class 1 and 6 will work out. It will make the differential in 1 and 6 higher but Class 2-5 lower its differential.

Why 48 in C1& C6 and divided evenly will work.

1. I hate Class 1/.05. Not enough schools. Travel is outrageous with 4 districts. 7 out of the 16 games in Class 1 this week is over 2 Hours one way and One game is around 9 hours round trip. No district games should be over 2 hours if it has to be necessary.

2. The differential is the middle classes like 3 and 4 has been spread apart usually.

3. Move some schools around in Classes and districts to give the best teams out of a tough district and let the best schools play in the Quarters and Semis

4. Some Districts this year feels more farther than usually is. No need for D5 in Class 4 & D5 in C3 to be that spread out.

5. Last and always Private Schools. Honestly I hope it spreads out the private schools. The more championship factor points u get, the more they move up in 1 or 2 Classes. It what I say the last thread, Both Valle or Lutheran North and others cant play up to 2 Schools. They won’t make it pass the Semis!!!
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So if the privates year after year cant make it past the semi's they need a generational team to do it like all the other public schools need typically to do it? I get it auto pass to the finals because of course you have a larger pool to choose from so thus you are granted a free pass to win it all... i get it.... Two maybe even 3 private/charter/open enrollment or tuition accepting public schools (This is coming, and to deny it doesn't happen at public schools is to deny the obvious) classes solves this issue
 
After weeks and weeks trying figure out what’s the best football classification or playoff idea!!!

7 Classes- is it too many Classes? but will it work to help out in the future to help take down the Private schools? Classes 6-5 be 32 Schools and rest 48 and one 49!!!

Differential would be down in classes, No more crazy travel in districts. No more weak classes except for C4 Still. Best Schools pinned up against each other in the State final?
I’m using this year Records/ Cal Prep predictions

Class 1 (48) 91-191
D1 Caruthersville/ Thayer
D2 St Vincent
D3 Marionville
D4 Adrian
D5 Tipton
D6 Van Far
D7 South Harrison
D8 Penney

Semifinals
St Vincent vs Tipton
Adrian vs Penney

Class 2 (49) 191-324
D1 Valle
D2 Bowling Green
D3 Strafford
D4 Lamar/Fair Grove
D5 Pembroke Hill/ Warsaw
D6 Lafayette County
D7 South Shelby
D8 Mid Buchanan

Semifinals
Valle vs Lafayette County
Lamar vs Mid Buchanan

C3 (48) 324-492
D1 Dexter
D2 Lift for Life
D3 Boonville
D4 Blair Oaks
D5 Mt Vernon
D6 Seneca
D7 Odessa
D8 Maryville

Semifinals
Lift for Life vs Seneca
Blair Oaks vs Maryville

Class 4 (48) 492-764 🤢
D1 Perryville
D2 Pacific
D3 Gateway
D4 Lutheran North
D5 Warrenton
D6 Nevada
D7 Pleasant Hill
D8 Savannah/Smithville

Semifinals
Pacific vs Warrenton
Lutheran North vs D7/D8 Winner

Class 5 (48) 781-1068
D1 Central Cape Girardeau/Festus
D2 Cardinal Ritter
D3 Washington/Parkway North
D4 Hannibal
D5 Helias
D6 Webb City
D7 Van Horn
D8 Kearney/Platte County/St Pius X (Kcity)

Semifinals
Cardinal Ritter vs Helias/Webb City
D3/D4 Winner vs D8 Winner

Class 6 (32) 1075-1346
D1 Eureka/Lafayette Wildwood
D2 MICDS/ Ft Zumwalt West
D3 Carthage
D4 Oak Park

Semifinals
D1 Winner vs Carthage
D2 Winner vs Oak park

Class 7 1355-1762
D1 CBC
D2 Rock Bridge/Troy
D3 Lee Summit North
D4 Blue Springs South

Semifinals
CBC vs Lee Summit North
Rock Bridge/Troy vs Blue Springs South


Ps…. I think Class 4 will never be the same again if we got back to 64 in Class 4 or just go back to 5 Classes!!!
 
HBL Pirates fan_1990 said:
After weeks and weeks trying figure out what’s the best football classification or playoff idea!!!

7 Classes- is it too many Classes? but will it work to help out in the future to help take down the Private schools? Classes 6-5 be 32 Schools and rest 48 and one 49!!!

Differential would be down in classes, No more crazy travel in districts. No more weak classes except for C4 Still. Best Schools pinned up against each other in the State final?
I’m using this year Records/ Cal Prep predictions

Class 1 (48) 91-191
D1 Caruthersville/ Thayer
D2 St Vincent
D3 Marionville
D4 Adrian
D5 Tipton
D6 Van Far
D7 South Harrison
D8 Penney

Semifinals
St Vincent vs Tipton
Adrian vs Penney

Class 2 (49) 191-324
D1 Valle
D2 Bowling Green
D3 Strafford
D4 Lamar/Fair Grove
D5 Pembroke Hill/ Warsaw
D6 Lafayette County
D7 South Shelby
D8 Mid Buchanan

Semifinals
Valle vs Lafayette County
Lamar vs Mid Buchanan

C3 (48) 324-492
D1 Dexter
D2 Lift for Life
D3 Boonville
D4 Blair Oaks
D5 Mt Vernon
D6 Seneca
D7 Odessa
D8 Maryville

Semifinals
Lift for Life vs Seneca
Blair Oaks vs Maryville

Class 4 (48) 492-764 🤢
D1 Perryville
D2 Pacific
D3 Gateway
D4 Lutheran North
D5 Warrenton
D6 Nevada
D7 Pleasant Hill
D8 Savannah/Smithville

Semifinals
Pacific vs Warrenton
Lutheran North vs D7/D8 Winner

Class 5 (48) 781-1068
D1 Central Cape Girardeau/Festus
D2 Cardinal Ritter
D3 Washington/Parkway North
D4 Hannibal
D5 Helias
D6 Webb City
D7 Van Horn
D8 Kearney/Platte County/St Pius X (Kcity)

Semifinals
Cardinal Ritter vs Helias/Webb City
D3/D4 Winner vs D8 Winner

Class 6 (32) 1075-1346
D1 Eureka/Lafayette Wildwood
D2 MICDS/ Ft Zumwalt West
D3 Carthage
D4 Oak Park

Semifinals
D1 Winner vs Carthage
D2 Winner vs Oak park

Class 7 1355-1762
D1 CBC
D2 Rock Bridge/Troy
D3 Lee Summit North
D4 Blue Springs South

Semifinals
CBC vs Lee Summit North
Rock Bridge/Troy vs Blue Springs South


Ps…. I think Class 4 will never be the same again if we got back to 64 in Class 4 or just go back to 5 Classes!!!
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why so few class 6 and 7?

this isn't rocket surgery.

Total number of football schools/6.
 
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