1 and 2 should get buys until the semis and 7 and 8 should play each other week 10 and be done.
Playoff Fix
- Thread starter mofootballcoach
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1 vs 8 matchups happen during the year (Chaminade vs Spfld Central) so there is no reason to not have them in the district tourney.
Not worth the injury risk for good teams to have to play this game. Just because a few schools compete in these games doesn't mean it should stay the same. Other than a handful of games these are worthless. And the worst week of hs football. Not everyone deserves a playoff run especially if they haven't had a good year. Let them finish their season with a meaningful game against someone that has had a similar year.
IMO, it's far better to include undeserving teams than to leave out deserving ones like what used to happen back in the day.
Here we go. The annual complaint thread about districts. Every year. Every year, regardless of the format "I don't like the format."
It's not complaining. I like the format. We have had enough time to improve upon the original version.
This is a done and over topic, it is set up just fine. Everyone in, that is how it should be. I always like the 4 team district, but people felt other deserving teams should get in, well now everyone has a chance to get in, if your team is deserving then they will win this game. There is no way I would vote yes on 7 or 8 not getting a chance to move on. If they win week 10, then they deserve to go like everyone else.
The simplest solution would be to even out the number of teams in each class. It's no longer necessary to have 64 teams in each class without the round robin format. Why not put 56 teams in Classes 1-5 (8 districts of 7 - top seed earns a bye) and Class 6 can be the catch-all (50 teams - 8 districts of 6 or 7 teams)?
Class 6: Oakville (1550) - SLUH (2803)
Class 5: Independence Van Horn (997) - Kansas City Staley (1525)
Class 4: Kansas City Central Academy of Excellence (607) - DeSoto (961)
Class 3: Fair Grove (386) - Eldon (605)
Class 2: Center Mark Twain (233) - Lamar, Versailles (384)
Class 1: Drexel (102) - Plattsburg (229)
Class 6: Oakville (1550) - SLUH (2803)
Class 5: Independence Van Horn (997) - Kansas City Staley (1525)
Class 4: Kansas City Central Academy of Excellence (607) - DeSoto (961)
Class 3: Fair Grove (386) - Eldon (605)
Class 2: Center Mark Twain (233) - Lamar, Versailles (384)
Class 1: Drexel (102) - Plattsburg (229)
Totally agree...why only 32 teams right now in Class 6? Win one game this year (week ten), and you are instantly in the "sweet 16" of class 6! Laughable.
I remember the days of the four class system. Making it to the state quarterfinals was a pretty big deal back then. Now, about one out of every 6 or 7 football teams in the state can make that claim.
Amen. Not my idea, but someone said let 5 play 6 and 7 play 8 in one last game. District _ Bowl. The regular season is more meaningful. The 7s and 8s can not suffer 63-0 and 55-0 losses in their final game. But they are out.
You guys just keep ignoring the facts of this last weeks games. There were numerous blowouts but, would you really want to deprive West Plains of their win over Camdenton and chance to play Webb? Would you rather have Spfld Catholic advancing instead of Osage? You know how long a list I could make. Sarcoxie and Cabool had a game every participant will remember for the rest of their lives......gone if you get your way.
This is far better than the old system.
It was long ago, but Joplin Parkwood went undefeated (I think 10-0) and were the defending state champs, but lost out on a playoff bid by .15 points.
It was long ago, but Joplin Parkwood went undefeated (I think 10-0) and were the defending state champs, but lost out on a playoff bid by .15 points.
Not a bad idea, I kind of like how the Missouri Valley does their basketball tourney. The bottom 4 teams (out of 10) play each other in the first round for 2 spots in the second round. It somewhat eliminates the total mismatch of an automatic 1/10 and 2/9 match.
I don't really have a problem with the current system of letting everyone in, other than the first week are some of the least interesting games of the season and it ensures that teams who have struggled all season will likely finish on a low note with their worst pummeling of the year. But that is sports.
Agree 100%. The system is working great. The only tweak I wouldn't mind would be for the quarterfinal or semifinal host to be determined by district points but I supposed in that format some teams would never get a chance to host.
How about more neutral field kind of games for the quarterfinals and semis, like we see in the state basketball tourney? Does one team really deserve a big home field / home crowd advantage over another from across the state at this point in the "tourney"?
This is system was established to create a district/state playoff similar to the other sports. In basketball and baseball, we see first round games that are blowouts, (85-40, 15-0) but we do see upsets. This creates a system of it doesn't matter what you did during the season, you have to win now. The system is better than it used to be when a four team district could produce a team that was 5-5, and another district could have two or three teams that could have been Semifinalists or quarterfinalists with only one moving beyond week 10.
I'm not a fan of having a computer crunch numbers and using the results to seed a district. We witnessed a number of games Friday night where the lower seed won, including Eldon, which was a #7 seed, blowing out #2 Springfield Catholic 32-0. I would prefer the old system where you had four or five teams in a district and played a round robin.
I much prefer the old system also for many reasons. Eldon was a six and Catholic a three.
Still, there's no way that a #6 seed should blow out a #3 seed if the seeds mean anything. One change I would make if they are going to stick with the computer is to use a weighting system where games played later in the season are weighed more heavily than games earlier in the year.
That wouldn't have changed anything. Catholic was playing their best ball at the end of the season and might've been moved up to the 1 seed based on that idea.
I don't think any of us should be putting this much trust into machines. This is how Skynet gets created......
It was the COC small...they should be docked 50 points just for playing in that conference.
Someone should average the scores of the 1v8 and 2v7 games. Shoot, just go ahead and average them all. This would be an effective overall measurement of the seeding process.
Bonus,,,, you will really look busy to your boss.
Bonus,,,, you will really look busy to your boss.
I would bet it would be very similar results as other sports. I would venture to say girl's basketball would be the worst overall.
None of the upset wins have and will ever be a factor in a state championship. There isn't a coach fan or player on an 8 seeded team that wants to see that week 10 game if they are being honest with themselves.
Tell that to Riverview Gardens of last year. They obviously wanted to see it, seeing as how they beat the 1 seed and got a win.
Yeah because everytime Webb plays a Mac County dozens of players are seriously hurt. Good grief boys, it's not like teams arent pulling their starters
Actually, the Mac County QB was carried off the field in the fourth quarter. Hated to see that and am hoping he is okay - am guessing he plays basketball too as he was one of their better athletes on the field. Looked like a knee or leg injury with about three minutes to go.
And that sucks, but can you definitively say that doesn't happen in a 7 v. 8 game? Absolutely not.
All you guys going on and on about potential injuries..
gimme a break. ITS FOOTBALL.
EVERY play has the potential to leave someone injured, that's the risk going into every down of every game all year long. If the 1 seeds are so worried about getting hurt against the 8 seeds, then have them play their 2nd string that game(who should still be able to win) and quit whining. This afraid of injury BS is why there are so many rules and restrictions on football nowadays. Sooner or later it's gonna be the state flag football championships.
Good lord.
