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Park Hills 30 Valle 21

A lot of fine 8-man squads literally surrounding Lamar. All were decent class 1 teams recently as 10 years ago. Things that make you go; hmmm?
Fine is very generous. But by all means outside of unwarranted speculation have any other speculation?
 
I figured Valle would end up in Class 2 after a couple years under the new system. Most Valle folks I've talked to over the years believe Class 2 is about where they belong.

Actually, I like the new system except I think the success factor should apply to public schools as well. If a public school goes on a run like Webb City did for several years, they should be bumped up too.

The athletic player "move ins" are becoming much more common than it use to be. Wasn't the Park Hills Central stud Jobe Bryant's family originally from Farmington until Jobe reached high school, and it was apparent that Farmington wasn't going to be as good as Park Hills in football and basketball? Park Hills Central has been getting their share of "move ins" for a few years now (ask North County). All perfectly legal, not making accusations, but based on threads on here over the years some public school powerhouses like Webb City and Lamar have been benefiting from "move ins" for years. All legal under MSHSAA rules unless you can prove "for athletic reasons" or "undo influence", which is basically impossible to prove a family's motive for moving. But I think public schools should have the same success factor as privates.

Yes, there's no where up for Class 6 champions to go, but that is why it is the smallest class with the 32 largest schools in the state.
Jobe Bryant from Park Hills Central has been in their school district his entire life. FWIW. But, yes, there have been move-ins in those schools. PHC has gained some “move ins” but also lost some through the years.
 
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A lot of fine 8-man squads literally surrounding Lamar. All were decent class 1 teams recently as 10 years ago. Things that make you go; hmmm?
I see Lockwood and your own Eagles recently being good to still are solid. Wonder what that does to your goofy speculation
 
Lockwood is an 8-man team who isn't good. PC is an hour from the brotherhood, goofy.
 
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Lockwood is an 8-man team who isn't good. PC is an hour from the brotherhood, goofy.
Ofc now they are. They won 9 games and scored almost 700 points this year. PC was apart of the conference (during that time period when everyone was class 1) you were referencing when mentioning the smaller towns around Lamar. (Lockwood, Liberal, Greenfield) You try so hard. PC ready for basketball? Lockwood played hard with Drexel this past Friday?! What are you even talking about lol Goofy
 
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Sorry, I don't follow 8-man like I should. Don't have 5 feeder schools situated around me.
 
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The last paragraph of that statement sure sounds like whining to me.

I’ve been here all year, so I’m not sure what proverbial rock you’re referring to 🤣🤣

time to go back under your own rock and watch the playoffs from there.

long live Valle Catholic,’the only private school in the state that has never ever ever ever recruited a single player in the history of the program 🙄

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Acrually they havent big boy. Im 43 yrs old and lived, played, and coached in the area. I will give 1000.00 rt now via paypal if you have proof to back up your bs claim. Please. Hell Ill double it. Ill give anyone on the board that post that bs crap to prove and Ill give them 2,000. Ill sit here and wait for the bs comments with no proof back
 
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Its more than the recruiting that give Privates an advantage. Its been spelled out time and time again.
 
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Sorry, I don't follow 8-man like I should. Don't have 5 feeder schools situated around me.
It’s ok, a lot of people talk about things they know nothing about on here. Especially in the non arguable manner like you just did. You’re no more of a mouth breather than the rest who do that. I forgive you troll.
 
I stand corrected, I thought I heard PHC Bryant grew up in Farmington. He's athletic and elusive. Anxious to see PHC play Ritter.
 
I stand corrected, I thought I heard PHC Bryant grew up in Farmington. He's athletic and elusive. Anxious to see PHC play Ritter.
Hear say isn’t enough to make the claims you did. But yeah, that will be a good game
 
Lol been on here since early 2,000's when I coached and lived in Missouri. Aready a thread on it. Search function is your friend. Ive been here since back in the day with blackhawk pride and kenny. Bill ran it then. Dont know who does now. So try again
Were you the HEAD DEFENSIVE COACH when you coached in MO?
 
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I'm only familiar with StL schools but KC is likely the same.
Nothing in the state compares with the cesspool of STL private schools and their tactics. No billboards on the KC side of the state touting the successes of their coach and football program. If you’ve ever made the drive across I-70, you know those billboards are reserved for video stores of a certain adult genre instead.
 
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Acrually they havent big boy. Im 43 yrs old and lived, played, and coached in the area. I will give 1000.00 rt now via paypal if you have proof to back up your bs claim. Please. Hell Ill double it. Ill give anyone on the board that post that bs crap to prove and Ill give them 2,000. Ill sit here and wait for the bs comments with no proof back
wow.....a lot of my StL friends like to rag me about recruiting. I offered them $100 for every player on the roster that they could prove to be from out of the county if they would give me $1 for everyone from the county. No takers there either.
 
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Nothing in the state compares with the cesspool of STL private schools and their tactics. No billboards on the KC side of the state touting the successes of their coach and football program. If you’ve ever made the drive across I-70, you know those billboards are reserved for video stores of a certain adult genre instead.
Last time in CoMo was at MU homecoming and I don't recall seeing any billboards other than the adult ones and I'm too damn old for that anymore:) But I do agree with your comment about StL private schools.
 
wow.....a lot of my StL friends like to rag me about recruiting. I offered them $100 for every player on the roster that they could prove to be from out of the county if they would give me $1 for everyone from the county. No takers there either.
Nah they wont. They would rather get on here and spit lies that fit there agendaand assume. Nothing fact based. Just bs that the assume they cant back up. I see I have no takers on my post either
 
This is 2022 in America. People are going to say crap online and not care if it’s true. That’s why when my team loses I say the game was rigged. The refs are Antifa. The scoreboard was hacked by China and the other team’s players are illegals.
 
Nah they wont. They would rather get on here and spit lies that fit there agendaand assume. Nothing fact based. Just bs that the assume they cant back up. I see I have no takers on my post either
I don’t think you’ve provided any proof for anything that you’ve refuted that I’ve said on here, either.
i think you’re just offended that I don’t kiss Valle’s hind end every chance I get.

i apologize for being absent from mosports for the latter part of this weekend and that you had “no takers” to your challenge during the weekend.
It’s good to know that some of us were missed on here though.
 
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wow.....a lot of my StL friends like to rag me about recruiting. I offered them $100 for every player on the roster that they could prove to be from out of the county if they would give me $1 for everyone from the county. No takers there either.
Hell...If Ozark could roster every player in Christian County, that'd be cool. Or what if Parkway South could roster every football player in St Louis County. Neat concept.
 
Hey...you crawled out from under your rock again...lol

Please accept my apologies if Valle kicked your sorry a** teams.

If you want to hear whining tune into some of the teams Valle beat this year.
They're wishing Valle had stayed a class 1 problem.

Some of those schools used to be schools to be feared but have fallen on
hard times for some reason. And private school recruiting isn't the problem in
Kennett, Fredericktown, Potosi and Park Hills.

My problem with MSHSAA is that they punish everyone because of problems caused
by the city schools. I'm only familiar with StL schools but KC is likely the same. And
help me out here, how are class 6 private schools punished for winning?

I've never had a problem getting punished for something I was guilty of. But punishing
a whole class, troop, team, whatever for the sins of some isn't right anyway you try to spin it.

See ya next year....get your class 2 excuses cued up!
Man especially when St Louis and KC schools get to cross the boarders into other states as well! Sorry, if you are not a Missouri resident, you should not be able to attend in Missouri
 
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Man especially when St Louis and KC schools get to cross the boarders into other states as well! Sorry, if you are not a Missouri resident, you should not be able to attend in Missouri
A basic principle in this country is freedom and if someone wants to PAY for their kids to attend a private school anywhere in the country, that is their freedom to do so. My hang-up is if the school gives aid because the kid is 6-8 and can dunk a basketball.
 
A basic principle in this country is freedom and if someone wants to PAY for their kids to attend a private school anywhere in the country, that is their freedom to do so. My hang-up is if the school gives aid because the kid is 6-8 and can dunk a basketball.
The argument for the separation has nothing to do with civil liberties. You have them. Anyone that isn't seriously slanted to one side of the narrative can see the schools aren't equitable. Therefore, separation of championships seems the easy solution. Or really, just boot the privates so they can start their own association.

But I totally agree, it's your right to choose how to educate your child. I don't think that topic has ever been argued on here.
 
A basic principle in this country is freedom and if someone wants to PAY for their kids to attend a private school anywhere in the country, that is their freedom to do so. My hang-up is if the school gives aid because the kid is 6-8 and can dunk a basketball.
Agree, but live in the state you kid attends! It is not college.
 
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Agree, but live in the state you kid attends! It is not college.
Zeke Elliot, Illinois resident, NFL rushing champion, and MVP of the National Championship game prevented Missouri born and raised kids (who’s parents paid Mo State taxes) from once in a lifetime chances to compete in the show me bowl multiple years. But NBD.
 
Zeke Elliot, Illinois resident, NFL rushing champion, and MVP of the National Championship game prevented Missouri born and raised kids (who’s parents paid Mo State taxes) from once in a lifetime chances to compete in the show me bowl multiple years. But NBD.
boys dont cry GIF
 
Agree, but live in the state you kid attends! It is not college.
I don't agree with that. Let them attend where they want. Their tax dollars are still paid where they live. Let them spend their private tuition dollars where they so choose. Just don't let them compete for a championship along with other schools that follow a different set of rules. It's such a simple concept. So much in today's world focuses on equity, yet here we sit...
 
When trying to get a Private School fan to understand that they have clear advantages, even if you dont count recruiting.
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I don't agree with that. Let them attend where they want. Their tax dollars are still paid where they live. Let them spend their private tuition dollars where they so choose. Just don't let them compete for a championship along with other schools that follow a different set of rules. It's such a simple concept. So much in today's world focuses on equity, yet here we sit...
So how do the public schools that recruit get punished? You can not sit there and say that does not happen in cases.
 
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I've always been a separatist but it isn't likely to happen in MO. The last vote on separate private classes was defeated 70% to 30%..

I do think the current system is better than any previous system. When given a couple years for everyone to settle into a class where they can be competitive without being dominant for long stretches. I would think it may be a boost for some privates that are struggling right now.
 
I've always been a separatist but it isn't likely to happen in MO. The last vote on separate private classes was defeated 70% to 30%..

I do think the current system is better than any previous system. When given a couple years for everyone to settle into a class where they can be competitive without being dominant for long stretches. I would think it may be a boost for some privates that are struggling right now.
I get the point of moving teams up when they have success, but would it really matter if St. Mary's was class 3 or class 5or 6? When you have multiple D1 recruits, it doesn't matter.
 
The argument for the separation has nothing to do with civil liberties. You have them. Anyone that isn't seriously slanted to one side of the narrative can see the schools aren't equitable. Therefore, separation of championships seems the easy solution. Or really, just boot the privates so they can start their own association.

But I totally agree, it's your right to choose how to educate your child. I don't think that topic has ever been argued on here.
Pretty simple point - they have seperate admission standards and separate attendance boundaries, then let them play in their own separate classification.
 
Pretty simple point - they have seperate admission standards and separate attendance boundaries, then let them play in their own separate classification.
Well said. I'm just all for letting them do it on their own. Don't be a part of MSHSAA. Or the other 600ish member PUBLIC schools can tell MSHSAA to kick rocks and form their own organization. But that would never work, simply because those supts and admins would actually have to do a little work. Can't take time away from catered breakfasts and lunches that discuss the collection of data and standards based grading, all while paying some retired admin team now in the private sector about $100K annually to eat the food and feed you a line of BS. These are the things that truly matter in today's educational world.
 
The problem is the private school people have votes and money to influence legislatures and public school boards and public school admins. So the schools collectively decide to vote against separating private from public. The public schools vote against the interest of their own students. Same ole story.
 
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