One number shows in graphic detail how inaccurate MO district seeding is:
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Do teams get the same number of 'play up' points for any school they play in a higher class?
To be fair, getting points for playing up makes sense in almost every situation. Central is just an outlier
How about we just use a sagarin type model that balances out as the year goes on?
Otherwise, why wouldn't a KC area team just play all IL schools for out of conference games? Voila, 1 seed in districts.
Why don't we just use our common sense and let the coaches vote on the seedings and then use the head to head to move up a spot as well? Pretty simple. I know coaches try to buddy up and get seeds manipulated, but usually fall into place just right in the end because everyone can see who voted for who!
Do something like the old points system did take into account the opponents record. If the team you are playing up is 0-9 you should get no points clearly they are no good.
How'd you like to be Lamar right now? Stockton will likely host their district.
Schedule comparo:
8/30 | at McDonald County (1-6) | W | 32 - 29 | Matchup | |
| 9/6 | East Newton (2-5) | W | 34 - 24 | Matchup | |
| 9/13 | Tipton (6-1) | W | 44 - 0 | Matchup | |
| 9/20 | at Cassville (2-5) | L | 34 - 35 | Matchup | |
| 9/27 | Mt. Vernon (6-1) | L | 32 - 42 | Matchup | |
| 10/4 | Nevada (6-1) | L | 19 - 20 | Matchup | |
| 10/11 | at Monett (2-5) | W | 45 - 22 | Matchup | |
| 10/18 | Aurora (2-5) | 7:00 pm | Matchup | ||
| 10/25 | at Seneca (7-0) | 7:00 pm |
VS.
| 8/30 | Marionville (7-0) | L | 14 - 36 | Matchup | |
| 9/6 | at Miller (2-5) | W | 48 - 20 | Matchup | |
| 9/13 | at Ash Grove (6-1) | W | 18 - 0 | Matchup | |
| 9/20 | Sarcoxie (4-3) | W | 49 - 21 | Matchup | |
| 9/27 | at Central (Springfield) (0-7) | W | 34 - 7 | Matchup | |
| 10/4 | at Sherwood (3-4) | W | 57 - 14 | Matchup | |
| 10/11 | Diamond (2-5) | W | 50 - 8 | Matchup | |
| 10/18 | Skyline (2-5) | 7:00 pm | Matchup | ||
| 10/24 | at Pierce City (4-3) | 7:00 pm |
Phew.
I definitely get what you're saying. I'm not exactly sure what all is taken into the current system and what isn't so I can't argue much more about the specifics lol
The computer system they currently used does switch two teams if they are right next to each other in seeding and the lower team beat the higher team head to head
I do not think they switch them, but lower seed has the option to bump up if they choose. Say you are the 6th seed and beat the 5th seed. They may not want to bump up and play the 1 seed in the semi finals.
I think Lamar’s win last week helped them?
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They still play Seneca.I think Lamar’s win last week helped them?
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So if Lamar finishes by beating Aurora and losing to Seneca both class 3 and Stockton wins out against Skyline and PC both class one, does Stockton pass Lamar?
Should playing Central give the same points as playing Ritter?
Classification has zero to do with quality of opponent and shouldn't factor into seeding.
That is just not even close to true. Does it have everything to do with quality? No. But it definitely matters. The number of quality athletes you are capable of having is directly related to class size for public schools. It's literally just statistics. Now is that always the way it works, definitely not because you have schools like BO that obviously have more athletes than they should for the size of the school. Where it really matters is depth of athletes. class 1 if you have a starter go down, your backup is probably garbage and has no business playing football. In class 5 if you have a starter go down, the backup might not be as good but the fall off won't be as high
Bad teams are bad teams regardless of class. If you take away the classification bump and use a 'sagarin' type rating you will get a much more accurate picture.
He's saying there is no hope for Springfield Central. They could be in Class 1, and they have NO SHOT. I get it. Wow...great learning new things every day and being enlightened by searing intellects like that on here.
Here, here! Don't you try using logic on this here internets message board!!!
What difference does it make??? The district winner is determined on the field.
I would put the teams in a hat and draw for bracket positions and hosting and just play the games
You also aren't impressed by Cantwell.
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and funny you say that now when webb sucks
No I have never figured out why the better team in a tournament gets an automatic advantage????? Seems to me like the worst team should get one if anyone does.
If you could comprehend English you would understand I never have said he wasn’t impressive,,,I said he was not Amazing.
Use a dictionary and look up the definition of those two adjectives
I already have a spreadsheet template to calculate points that I used last year for several teams. From looking at the manual, nothing has changed and if need be if anyone needs points figured out let me know.
I completely disagree with this take. The implication that last year's 1-9 Blue Springs South team is comparable to a bad Class 1 team is laughably insane, They were competitive against a brutal schedule — one in which even the best Class 1 teams would be lucky to go 1-9 . A bad Class 1-9 team would get beat by several of those opponents by 100 not three.
that's why you use a sagarin type system that takes into account who you play (and who everybody else does too).
Record isn't always indicative of quality. Some teams play a bunch of jabronis.
Makes all the difference in the world! Especially when you look at a possible match up in a district that is 282 miles away (Hayti vs Van-Far), 267 miles (Hayti vs Louisiana), Osage to Hannibal (154 miles) or Osage to Kirksville (167 miles). Another example. Class 4 District 5. Warrenton top seed. Osage the 3rd seed. Hannibal is the 5th seed as of today. No doubt Kirksville and Hannibal should be top seeds and home field would be an advantage in play-offs.
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