Once Trump is out
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The entire premise is ignorant.
There is no way that 20 republicans in the Senate will ever vote to remove Trump from office.
In the over 200 year history of our nation it has never happened and it won’t happen now.
somebody needs to turn off Fox.
Besides Graham, I don’t see GOP senators rushing to defend yesterday’s bombshells.
Where is Blunt? Where is Cruz? Where oh where have the little dogs gone?
What Bombshells lol???
Libs have been talking about “bombshells” for 4 years now. They always turn into a flash in the pan.
Our legislators used to be terribly worried about foreign interference in elections, but now Trump has asked foreign governments to cooperate in DOJ investigations of interference in 2016 elections and Dems are going nuts
There would have to be more for him to get impeached or to resign.
But, realistically...if a sitting President leaves office ~1 year before the next election due to wrongdoing, that would augur horribly for the party. Especially when the person who would be kicked out is an arsonist who would burn the house down around him on the way out.
But, realistically...if a sitting President leaves office ~1 year before the next election due to wrongdoing, that would augur horribly for the party. Especially when the person who would be kicked out is an arsonist who would burn the house down around him on the way out.
Not sure how much more they need, bro.
A Pompeo appointee testified that Trump broke the law. Trump admitted to the crime.
yea. Nothing happened yesterday. Continue on with head in sand.
their standards aren't as high as yours, sadly. But I think they're all terrified of what comes out over the next few weeks and months.
I suspect you also believe as I do - what happens when they dig into his other conversations/calls/efforts? He has no moral boundaries and no ability to put the US before himself. It's not likely to be prettier.
Mulvaney's press conference was one of those moments where you say the truth out loud.
What he said was that foreign aid is many times contingent on governments doing things we want or changing their behavior. That’s a big duh moment
When republicans took over Shiftys secret investigation meeting room this morning and forced him to give up and leave I think it paints a picture of nothing but a partisan operation to undue the 2016 election.
No way the Senate will ever vote to convict on any articles of impeachment no matter what.
Trump will be able to use it at every campaign rally next year,,,and if the DOJ concludes that Brennan, Clapper, Comey did anything wrong at all it just gives Trump more fuel for his “They were all out to get your President” bonfire
vahahahahaha literally nothing you just said is correct. Muhuhaha
Did the Dems storm in and try to disrupt the exact type of hearings used on Benghazi? No.
They. Didn’t. Why? Because both GOP and Dems are in the meetings and may ask questions to gather information. This isn’t a trial. Once again, you still don’t get it. it’s very similar to a grand jury. Grand juries are also secret. Grow up. Will you please?
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Maybe they didn't know there were GOP reps in the room given the opportunity to ask questions and had the same amount off time to do as the dems.
One thing they DID know was they are NOT suppose to take phones or other devices into that secure room. There are already plenty of Rs in the room participating, and if you actually get to impeachment, it's a public proceeding in the Senate where the President is allowed to call his own witnesses.
It wasn’t an impeachment, but in the entire Benghazi investigation, every single witness for months was questioned exactly as Schiff is having them questioned now. Until.......... Hillary. She was the only public hearing.
it was the repubs who set these rules under Mr. Boehner..... And why? To efficiently gather info to determine if charges will be filed. Just like grand juries operate every day.
Graham was all for depositions during the Clinton days. Now, he is crying like the little beeotch he is.
No, there had already been an independent counsel investigation, they had the facts/evidence already and voted to impeach, THEN it went to the senate for trial. This is NOT the same, the investigation is being done now and if they vote to impeach it will go to the senate for a trial. I know you already know this, you just want to spew the Trump line.
That's what Ken Starr was - he had subpeona power, private testimony, etc. Congress delegated its authority to the Special Counsel
Spin it how you want but CONGRESS has always had open hearings and investigation. If the Starr method is normal, why the departure? An independent investigator wouldn't be out of line and would be MUCH less partisa
REALLY??? I know you remember Benghazi and you have surely seen the clips of Trey Gowdy talking about how he preferred to have closed door hearings because they could get so much more done. The pubs keep claiming this all in secret when they have committee members in the room and given equal time to ask questions. At least they're in the room when they're not outside 'storming' the hearing room when half of them could have, and should have, already been inside because they are on the committee holding the hearings.
You are uninformed.
Quit partaking in the alt right media. It fries your brains
There are obviously times for closed hearings. There are things that the average citizen shouldn't have access to that are classified. Schiff announces before each hearing there isn't going to be anything classified so there is no need for "closed door" proceedings.REALLY??? I know you remember Benghazi and you have surely seen the clips of Trey Gowdy talking about how he preferred to have closed door hearings because they could get so much more done. The pubs keep claiming this all in secret when they have committee members in the room and given equal time to ask questions. At least they're in the room when they're not outside 'storming' the hearing room when half of them could have, and should have, already been inside because they are on the committee holding the hearings.
Every impeachment inquiry prior to this one has been voted on and open. possible reason to have it the way Schiff is doing it.
This post is 100% not true. Congress has open hearings about lots of things, but not all hearings and investigations are open.
Why no Starr method? Because it wouldn't pass through the Senate. Do you think the Trump admin would let them appoint an independent investigator? Remember, Starr was appointed for Whitewater. Look at how his remit evolved. No President wants an independent investigator out there - especially one like Trump who is out of control.
The Nixon and Clinton impeachment reviews came after closed door investigations. Remember the Saturday Night Massacre?
And Johnson's impeachment related to a public matter, so there was no point for private hearings. Congress said don't do X, he did X, so they impeached him.
And I wasn't saying all hearings (and you know it) but all impeachment inquiry hearings.
How did we get Mueller if Trump wouldn't allow it? Why didn't he prevent that? Of course Trump wouldn't WANT an investigator but he could have stopped Mueller at any time or from even happening.
The ONLY reason he didn't stop Mueller was because the pubs made it quite clear that would be a disaster for him and them come election time. Even then he whined about it CONSTANTLY!
Again, the core of the last two impeachments came from private inquiries.
And, given many of the claims here relate to behavior that would generally be documented via classified materials, it makes a lot of sense why much of this would take place in the SCIF.
THEN HAVE A PRIVATE INQUIRY!!!!
Schiff has announced before each session that no classified material will be discussed.
I assume you want the pubs that 'stormed' the scif room with their cell phones be sanctioned? Even the ones that should have already been in the room because they were on the committee rather than grandstanding for the press.
Don't know where you got this. Everything i've heard says that is a lie and they checked their phones at the entrance as required.
You are a mess. You don't have any sense.
On Wednesday, Republican lawmakers committed a major breach of security guidelines when they carried cell phones as they tried to force their way into a secure room where a closed-door impeachment hearing with a Defense Department official was taking place.
At least one House member, Rep. Matt Gaetz of Florida, got inside the Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility (SCIF) in the basement of the House of Representatives. Despite strict rules barring all electronics inside such closed-off areas, Gaetz openly tweeted: "BREAKING: I led over 30 of my colleagues into the SCIF where Adam Schiff is holding secret impeachment depositions. Still inside—more details to come."
After the tweet came under criticism, Gaetz later tweeted “sent by staff.” It remained unclear how the representative was able to communicate with his members of his staff.
Rep. Mark Walker of North Carolina also issued a tweet that said he was "in the SCIF." A picture published by The New York Times showed a man identified as a House Republican holding up his phone as if taking pictures or video as he entered the secure room. A sign on the door of the room said, "Cameras and other recording devices prohibited without proper authorization." The room has lockers outside the doors where people are required to store electronics before entering.
Lawyers said bringing phones into the secure area was a potential felony. Security officials, meanwhile, stressed how damaging the move could be to national security. The SCIF is designed to prevent electronic eavesdropping so members of Congress can receive sensitive information that is often classified. Often, the materials in the room reveal sensitive operations or show how intelligence officers collect information on adversaries. SCIFs are carefully controlled to prevent electronic signals or electronic devices from leaving the rooms. Chief among these restrictions is no unauthorized electronic devices.
Compromising national security
Cell phones in particular are known to be a risk since it's easily within the means of a nation to infect both iOS and Android devices with full-featured spyware. From then on, the hackers can make the devices record audio and video, take pictures and download and upload files. Lawmakers are particularly prone to such attacks given the large amount of sensitive data they often have access to.
"Storming the SCIF without respecting the security protocols that require people to leave their electronic devices *outside* the space is actually compromising our national security," Mieke Eoyang, who regularly used the room while she was a former staffer for several security-related congressional committees, wrote on Twitter. "Bringing electronic devices into a SCIF, and this SCIF in particular, is *very* problematic, especially when done by members of Congress."
Hours after the protest, Rep. Bennie Thompson, a Democrat representing Mississippi and the chairman of the Committee on Homeland Security, sent a letter to the Sergeant at Arms calling the event "an urgent security matter."
"Such action is a blatant breach of security, violates the Oath all Members of Congress sign to gain access to classified information, and contravenes security controls established by the Director of the Central Intelligence Agency for the protection of classified information," Thompson wrote. "The unprecedented breach of security raises serious concerns for Committee Chairmen, including me, responsible for maintaining SCIFs."
Wednesday's event occurred as members of the House Intelligence Committee were preparing to hear from Laura K. Cooper, the deputy assistant secretary of defense for Russia, Ukraine, and Eurasia. Chanting "let us in, let us in," the protesting lawmakers prevented the hearing from proceeding. House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff turned the protesters away and called on the sergeant-at-arms to break up the crowd.
Lawmakers described a chaotic scene. Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, D-Fla., said she had just walked into the room when the Republican lawmakers blew past Capitol Police officers and Democratic staffers. The staff member who was checking identification at the entrance was "basically overcome" by the Republicans, she said.
"Literally some of them were just screaming about the president and what we're doing to him and that we have nothing and just all things that were supportive of the president," Wasserman Schultz said.
Sen. Lindsey Graham criticized his Republican colleagues for the tactic, calling them "nuts" to make a "run on the SCIF."
"That's not the way to do it," he said.
It apparently is not a secure area at all if a congressman and 29 of his buddies went busting thru the door with cell phones for a lib style sit in lol.
Trump loves this stuff it’s just season 15 of The Apprentice to him. He beat ALL of the Washington Elite by doing the impossible (the coward McCain and Romney both hated his guts for doing in a year what they tried a lifetime to do)and getting elected and when he is found not guilty in the Senate it’s game set match and on for Season 2!!!!!!
Definitely not true, heck, there's photos of them carrying phones in through the front door. There's reporting that Conaway had to confiscate at least one phone from his colleagues since he actually knows the rules.
No one is really saying that they did crazy stuff while in there, but it's not like they all set their phones on the ground and walked outside.
