They better if they wanna win more than 3-4 games a year
My Way Too Early Missouri Football Rankings (Classes 4-6)
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No doubt. That "league of death" seems to be getting deeper by the year.
The league has gotten so much better it's not even funny ..first several years Webb would turbo most if not all of them . Everyone was playing for second . Last few years Webb has more state championships than coc championships. I can't remember the last time Webb won the coc ? It's been a long time . I don't think webb has gone downhill ...I just think the league has improved a lot and there isn't a talent gap anymore. The Springfield half should continue to improve that area is growing so fast . Nixa is going to be a perennial powerhouse, Republic I think is about there . Ozark just needs a spark to trigger that sleeping giant . Joplin has finally harnessed their talent pool . Carthage has been good to great for 2 decades and keeps improving with time .....even the " bad teams" like neosho have spent a ton of money on new stadium, new indoor practice facilities etc and they are improving . Branson and Willard has no excuse for being as bad as they are . I don't understand that . Cj has a indoor facility as well . I actually think webb is in the minority of not having an indoor facility
OP will have a good record going into the playoffs because of their putrid schedule, regardless of what class they end up in. But if they are in 6, and they will be, I don’t foresee district going well for them. I’d love to be wrong though.
Agree on Bransteitter being a P5 prospect.
From comments I’ve read from Bult I think they will be using Peppers in the slot a lot and using at times a backfield of Sullivan and the freshman that played when Peppers was injured last season. They do have some talent back on the o-line so hoping that will help the running game.
This is using DESE numbers. Agree on Eureka if Class 5. That have a massive Oline
Class 6
1 Blue Springs 1852
2 Blue Springs South 1764
3 Liberty North 1760
4 Joplin 1725
5 Lindbergh 1691
6 Troy Buchanan 1675
7 Raymore-Peculiar 1599
8 Hickman 1574
9 Marquette 1563
10 Hazelwood West 1551
11 Lee's Summit North 1531
12 Rock Bridge 1530
13 Kickapoo 1517
14 Pattonville 1517
15 Nixa 1491
16 Ritenour 1477
17 Liberty 1470
18 Park Hill 1460
19 Staley 1460
20 Lee's Summit West 1454
21 SLUH 1440
22 Lee's Summit 1435
23 Northwest (Cedar Hill) 1435
24 Park Hill South 1428
25 Rockhurst 1416 up 1
26 Central (St. Joseph) 1413
27 Francis Howell 1400
28 Ozark 1392
29 Jackson 1384
30 Oakville 1359
31 Oak Park 1348
32 Francis Howell Central 1345
33 Hazelwood Central 1334
34 Seckman 1325
35 Waynesville 1323
36 Kirkwood 1321
37 Truman 1310
38 Christian Brothers College 1292 up 2
39 Ft. Zumwalt West 1292
40 Francis Howell North 1280
41 North Kansas City 1274
42 DeSmet 950 up 1
Class 5
1 Battle/Columbia Independent HS 1267
2 Fox 1255
3 Timberland 1255
4 Eureka 1250
5 Lafayette (Wildwood) 1246
6 Carthage 1244
7 Liberty (Wentzville) 1233
8 Poplar Bluff 1207
9 Republic 1189
10 Parkway South 1181
11 Fort Osage 1175
12 Neosho 1166
13 Lebanon 1148
14 Smith-Cotton 1141
15 Central (Springfield) 1126
16 Ft. Zumwalt North 1116
17 Willard 1113
18 Glendale 1111
19 Raytown 1108
20 William Chrisman 1101
21 Grain Valley 1096
22 Mehlville 1080
23 Parkview 1080
24 Branson 1075
25 Riverview Gardens 1072
26 Parkway West 1068
27 Ruskin 1046
28 Central (Cape Girardeau) 1045
29 Rolla 1039
30 Webb City 1039
31 Belton 1030
32 Hazelwood East 1022
33 Capital City 1021
34 Jefferson City 1021
35 Camdenton 1005
36 Webster Groves 1005
37 Platte County 1000
38 Winnetonka 994
39 Ft. Zumwalt South 988
40 Washington 987
41 Farmington 975
42 Ladue Horton Watkins 970
43 Parkway Central 959
44 Raytown South 958
45 North Point HS 940
46 Ft. Zumwalt East 934
47 Grandview 934
48 McCluer 918
49 Rockwood Summit 915
50 East (Kansas City) 914
51 West Plains 895
52 Chaminade College Prep 826 up 1
53 Vianney 782 up 1
54 St. Dominic 722 up 1
55 Helias Catholic 553 up 1
56 MICDS 481 up 2
57 St. Mary's (St. Louis) 374 up 2
No. The 8th grade class is loaded. The 6th grade class is really good. I am just counting when 8th grade class will be sophomores.
I think there are 8 class 4 teams in SW Missouri now. I would have no problem if they formed a league. It would make a lot of sense for CJ to not have to play up every single week and it would make sense for the class 4 schools in the Big 8 to not play down.
Who all are you thinking about? I can come up with CJ, Nevada, MC, Monett, Bolivar, Hillcrest? Who am I missing?
These are numbers from DECEMBER. No one declares enrollment until March, but these are as close as you'll find. DESE NEVER updates final building enrollment numbers. Too tough I guess.
I have 307 teams playing 11-man football DISTRICTS (no Linn, no East KC)
Class 6 - 42 (I have same 42 as he does using December numbers)
Class 5 - 57 (I have same 57)
Class 4 - 57
Class 3 - 57
Class 2 - 58
Class 1 - 36 Per the December numbers the cut is 178 (Sarcoxie or Adrian is going to Class 2, per December numbers)
Class 1 teams (I didn't bother putting co-op if it didn't impact class):
| O'Fallon Christian |
| St. Vincent |
| SARCOXIE HIGH or ADRIAN HIGH |
| LOUISIANA HIGH |
| THAYER SR. HIGH |
| WINDSOR HIGH |
| RUSSELLVILLE HIGH |
| PORTAGEVILLE HIGH SKYLINE HIGH (no more co-op) |
| MARIONVILLE HIGH |
| CABOOL HIGH |
| NORTH PLATTE HIGH |
| MARCELINE HIGH |
| ASH GROVE HIGH |
| PIERCE CITY HIGH |
| WEST PLATTE HIGH |
| CHAFFEE JR.-SR. HIGH |
| HARRISBURG HIGH |
| PUTNAM CO. HIGH |
| PENNEY HIGH |
| MILAN HIGH |
| FAYETTE HIGH |
| TIPTON HIGH |
| VAN-FAR JR./SR. HIGH |
| LINCOLN HIGH |
| MILLER HIGH |
| WESTRAN HIGH |
| SALISBURY HIGH |
| MAYSVILLE JR.-SR. HIGH |
| CREST RIDGE HIGH |
| SCOTLAND CO. HIGH |
| GALLATIN HIGH |
| CRYSTAL CITY HIGH |
| POLO HIGH |
| MIDWAY HIGH |
| HAYTI HIGH |
| WELLINGTON-NAPOLEON HIGH |
Also, for Class 5 I have McCluer North and Holt joining Class 5 and have removed KC East (no district icon listed on their schedule...not sure what's happening there) and I have St. Mary's in Class 4 despite a two-class jump. Apparently their enrollment decreased significantly so I think they could be Class 2 raw number and bump to Class 4.
Thank you.
I wonder how many Calhoun kids Windsor enrolled (and will that even impact the numbers for this year)?
Agree 100% with that assessment. Last year the COC was very good and I think most teams will be similar if not better than last with the exeption of Carthage. Not saying they will be bad, but there is no way they will be as good as last year. It will be a tough year for a rebuild.
It's been 5 years since WC won the COC (2018) but they did not win state that year.
- 2019 Joplin won COC, WC won state in C4.
- 2020 No one agrees who if anyone won the COC - Carthage was undefeated but didn't play WC. WC had lost to Joplin who lost to Carthage.
- 2021 Carthage won COC but WC won C5 state.
- 2022 Nixa and Carthage tied 8-1.
I have 306. I believe Christian is only playing a JV this year. Private schools I have the same #s as last year.
This is what I had for class 1.
Class 1
1 Adrian 178
2 Sarcoxie 178
3 Crest Ridge/Chilhowee 175
4 Louisiana 174
5 Thayer 173
6 Windsor 172
7 Russellville 169
8 Portageville 168
9 Cabool 164
10 Marionville 164
11 Maysville/Winston 164
12 Gallatin/Tri-County 163
13 North Platte 158
14 Marceline 156
15 Ash Grove 155
16 Chaffee 155
17 Pierce City 155
18 West Platte 155
19 Harrisburg 152
20 Putnam County 152
21 Milan 149
22 Penney 149
23 Fayette 145
24 Tipton 145
25 Van-Far 142
26 Lincoln 139
27 Miller 139
28 Westran 137
29 Salisbury 134
30 Scotland County 124
31 Crystal City 117
32 Polo 113
33 St. Vincent 112
34 Midway 102
35 Hayti 96
36 Wellington-Napoleon 81
Class 1
1 Adrian 178
2 Sarcoxie 178
3 Crest Ridge/Chilhowee 175
4 Louisiana 174
5 Thayer 173
6 Windsor 172
7 Russellville 169
8 Portageville 168
9 Cabool 164
10 Marionville 164
11 Maysville/Winston 164
12 Gallatin/Tri-County 163
13 North Platte 158
14 Marceline 156
15 Ash Grove 155
16 Chaffee 155
17 Pierce City 155
18 West Platte 155
19 Harrisburg 152
20 Putnam County 152
21 Milan 149
22 Penney 149
23 Fayette 145
24 Tipton 145
25 Van-Far 142
26 Lincoln 139
27 Miller 139
28 Westran 137
29 Salisbury 134
30 Scotland County 124
31 Crystal City 117
32 Polo 113
33 St. Vincent 112
34 Midway 102
35 Hayti 96
36 Wellington-Napoleon 81
I thought MSHSAA calculated the 9-11 enrollments from the previous school year and not the current student population for their current enrollments?
East is cooping with Northeast from what I understand. Southeast is cooping with Central. Lincoln Prep is only solo left in the disintegrating IL.
On that note advise everyone in KC in particular watch KIPP KC Legacy the 3 year old charter school moving to 11-man FB next Friday at Madison IL.
Have seen and heard zero about Lincoln (Benton County) as of today. Prospects for 2023?
This will be the best chance they’ve had to get past their district in quite awhile with WP making the probable bump to Class 5
By these numbers, West Plains would be the smallest public school in Class 5. Wow.
Add to that, if CJ were to head North again, Center's HC resigned and their best returning player transferred.
If my count is right there will be 8 class 4 teams in SW Missouri so who knows where WP would go if they end up class 4.
They wont beat Joplin - Joplin is stacked this year - but they will be a force come playoffs in C4.
NKCSD found a way to keep Staley C5 for years, you'd wonder if they found a way to do that for Oak Park knowing that change was possibly out there for this year. I'd like to see them stay in C5 as I think they have a very good chance this year. Crazy to think in C6 that the biggest school has 400+ more potential players to choose from than the smallest C6.
I thought we cured this back in 2002 but MSHSAA apparently disagrees.
