MSHSAA's private problem

[Veer2Eternity]

With the success factor moving up the better private schools, we saw a private school win classes 2 ,3 and 6 this year.
Class 1 teams are happy. Class 2 and 3 teams: Not so much. Class 6? Store bought super teams are common place.


How long until the class 2 and 3 'powers' argue for a change? Valle will likely win class 3 next year. Will that trigger the right thing finally being done here in MO? Or is MSHSAA still terrified of the one party in Jeff City that loves loves loves their private schools?

 

[Mofan79]

With the success factor moving up the better private schools, we saw a private school win classes 2 ,3 and 6 this year.
Class 1 teams are happy. Class 2 and 3 teams: Not so much. Class 6? Store bought super teams are common place.


How long until the class 2 and 3 'powers' argue for a change? Valle will likely win class 3 next year. Will that trigger the right thing finally being done here in MO? Or is MSHSAA still terrified of the one party in Jeff City that loves loves loves their private schools?

I think 6 is fine 3 of the 4 semi finalists were public schools and those games were definitely competitive

 

[Veer2Eternity]

I think 6 is fine 3 of the 4 semi finalists were public schools and those games were definitely competitive

Agreed. 6 usually settles it themselves. The real problem is the smaller classes.

 

[shovel_option]

Two years of success factor:

2020
9 of 48 quarterfinalists (19%)
5 of 24 semifinalists (21%)
4 of 12 finalists

2021
10 of 48 quarterfinalists (21%)
5 of 24 semifinalists (21%)
4 of 12 finalists

so definitely more TOP end teams, but in terms of district winners, within 5-10% of their share of total teams.

I know that’s not black and white. Some classes have a larger % of privates (class 3 and 6). Class 1 had 5 of 63 being private.

 

[Veer2Eternity]

Two years of success factor:

2020
9 of 48 quarterfinalists (19%)
5 of 24 semifinalists (21%)
4 of 12 finalists

2021
10 of 48 quarterfinalists (21%)
5 of 24 semifinalists (21%)
4 of 12 finalists

so definitely more TOP end teams, but in terms of district winners, within 5-10% of their share of total teams.

I know that’s not black and white. Some classes have a larger % of privates (class 3 and 6). Class 1 had 5 of 63 being private.

3 of the 4 semi teams in Class 3 were private schools.

Enjoy!

 

[MarcAsai]

More public schools have won the Class 6 football title than private schools over the last ten seasons, and a single team is responsible for 3 of the 4 Class 6 titles captured by private schools since 2011.

Half of the Class 6 football titles won by public schools in the last ten years were secured by a win over a private school.

Two of the four Class 6 state titles won by a private school from STL were secured by a win over a private school from KC.

The Class 6 private school super team complaint isn't valid in any universe. Kevin Coleman is graduating. Cardinal Ritter and Lutheran North aren't the same. Trinity doesn't even exist. Move the cuss on.

 

[runbillyrun]

MarcAsai

Do private schools exist?
Do they have a different set of rules in which they get there students?
Do public schools get eliminated by private prior to the Championship?

Your comment is perhaps the silliest I have ever seen.

 

[Veer2Eternity]

More public schools have won the Class 6 football title than private schools over the last ten seasons, and a single team is responsible for 3 of the 4 Class 6 titles captured by private schools since 2011.

Half of the Class 6 football titles won by public schools in the last ten years were secured by a win over a private school.

Two of the four Class 6 state titles won by a private school from STL were secured by a win over a private school from KC.

The Class 6 private school super team complaint isn't valid in any universe. Kevin Coleman is graduating. Cardinal Ritter and Lutheran North aren't the same. Trinity doesn't even exist. Move the cuss on.

As I said, the real issue is in the smaller classes where the ability to limit and tailor your roster makes a huge difference.

They're playing by different rules. They should play in different brackets.
It makes way too much sense to make class 1-4 public then have a small and large class private school set up.

 

[l_Pete_l]

Two years of success factor:

2020
9 of 48 quarterfinalists (19%)
5 of 24 semifinalists (21%)
4 of 12 finalists

2021
10 of 48 quarterfinalists (21%)
5 of 24 semifinalists (21%)
4 of 12 finalists

so definitely more TOP end teams, but in terms of district winners, within 5-10% of their share of total teams.

I know that’s not black and white. Some classes have a larger % of privates (class 3 and 6). Class 1 had 5 of 63 being private.

What is the overall percentage of private to public?
Also, what does everything think of keeping the 135% enrollment for privates plus add the win factor?

 

[MarcAsai]

Private schools exist. As they have for decades.
Private schools recruit. As they have for decades.
Private schools aren’t even winning to the extend public schools are, not have they for decades.