Monett Versus Seneca

[bullitpdq68]

The East was better last year than it is this year, but that doesn't say anything about the level of play. It still wasn't very good when compared to where Big 8 teams have been in the past. If you had a long term view of the conference, you would see it too. Right now, the Big 8 is guaranteed a winner in Class 3, District 6. doesn't necessarily mean that team is good.

Fourplay every year the same old song and dance from you... in 2016 you said the conference was the worse it had been in 20 years. Then Monett & Lamar went on to win the 2016 championship both in class 2 & 3. So every year it is the same old song and dance from you conference sucks the teams suck not the same as 20 years ago OMG just stop it!!!

 

[FOURPLAY]

Fourplay every year the same old song and dance from you... in 2016 you said the conference was the worse it had been in 20 years. Then Monett & Lamar went on to win the 2016 championship both in class 2 & 3. So every year it is the same old song and dance from you conference sucks the teams suck not the same as 20 years ago OMG just stop it!!!

I actually like the conference. Perhaps I am just more realistic about it than you, and some others are. I value good football, and there are usually a couple of good teams in the Big 8 each year. But try to look at big picture. Lamar has flown the banner for awhile now. That is over, and I haven't seen any of the current programs that are capable. We don't have to agree, but that is just how it is. For what it is worth, I do think that your Cubs have a very good shot at the District this year.

 

[bullitpdq68]

I actually like the conference. Perhaps I am just more realistic about it than you, and some others are. I value good football, and there are usually a couple of good teams in the Big 8 each year. But try to look at big picture. Lamar has flown the banner for awhile now. That is over, and I haven't seen any of the current programs that are capable. We don't have to agree, but that is just how it is. For what it is worth, I do think that your Cubs have a very good shot at the District this year.

Realistic? come on you talked trash about Monett in 2016 how the conference was down from 20 years ago LOL,...well back then would have been 1996 I believe Monett won the district back then and I can tell you that team was very average. I don't know that anybody made it very far that year. I think Maybe they tied for conference?

Listen Lamar didn't just fly the banner they were just down right awesome for several year they had kids coming thru that program that were just down right good. Just because they were a class 2 school beating up on a some bigger schools is nothing to be embarrassed about, They could have beaten alot of very good class 4 schools during that span, and they did beat CJ once.

And for what it is worth look at my post I thought the Cubs had a chance at the District title before the first game was played. I don't know how far this team can go, but

Its not that we disagree, it is you are just wrong and I just don't think you know our history. Aurora won the class 3 title in 1999 Seneca in 1995, besides those schools 20 years ago making the semis was just a pipe dream for most from the big 8.

We just got done with a pretty good run this last decade. Lamar had 7 straight class 2 title run. 2016 Monett class 3 champs. 2017 Mt Vernon Finals, 2015 Aurora semis. 2013 Seneca Finals. Monett 2012 & 2014 semis. May have left out a few. So again please tell me how the conference was so much better 20 years ago.

 

[PeteStevens]

Im cautious of new people showing up like this. We dont want another Fake Mox or Fake Coach Klein on our hands!

Boston I’m sure Nigel isn’t fake. I heard he hard some bad bets and the bookie made him pay. But that’s all over with now and he is back. Welcome back!!

 

[PeteStevens]

Hmmmm. Only 5 posts since 2018. Ill need my fellow Doc Guys to weigh in on this one. Including Falco!!

Bosko are you going to the Monett vs Seneca game? I’m wondering how the concession are at Seneca?

 

[Keyboard_QB]

Realistic? come on you talked trash about Monett in 2016 how the conference was down from 20 years ago LOL,...well back then would have been 1996 I believe Monett won the district back then and I can tell you that team was very average. I don't know that anybody made it very far that year. I think Maybe they tied for conference?

Listen Lamar didn't just fly the banner they were just down right awesome for several year they had kids coming thru that program that were just down right good. Just because they were a class 2 school beating up on a some bigger schools is nothing to be embarrassed about, They could have beaten alot of very good class 4 schools during that span, and they did beat CJ once.

And for what it is worth look at my post I thought the Cubs had a chance at the District title before the first game was played. I don't know how far this team can go, but

Its not that we disagree, it is you are just wrong and I just don't think you know our history. Aurora won the class 3 title in 1999 Seneca in 1995, besides those schools 20 years ago making the semis was just a pipe dream for most from the big 8.

We just got done with a pretty good run this last decade. Lamar had 7 straight class 2 title run. 2016 Monett class 3 champs. 2017 Mt Vernon Finals, 2015 Aurora semis. 2013 Seneca Finals. Monett 2012 & 2014 semis. May have left out a few. So again please tell me how the conference was so much better 20 years ago.

Cassville Class 3 champs 2008, 2009, Semis 2010

 

[Arcola]

Cassville Class 3 champs 2008, 2009, Semis 2010

How odd that Bullit omitted Cassville???

 

[bullitpdq68]

How odd that Bullit omitted Cassville???

I just picked the most recent decade. Nothing on purpose.

 

[I2R I]

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Cassville Class 3 champs 2008, 2009, Semis 2010

Under the playoff system at the time, I believe 2008 Monett won the district and the Wildcats won the rematch in a close one and won state easily over Cardinal Ritter. The two best class 3 teams in the state that year were in the Big 8. That Cassville defense was lights out.

 

[BoosterBosko]

Bosko are you going to the Monett vs Seneca game? I’m wondering how the concession are at Seneca?

I will NOT be there. Ive got some Ampipe Bulldogs to root for!!!

 

[Mofan79]

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Under the playoff system at the time, I believe 2008 Monett won the district and the Wildcats won the rematch in a close one and won state easily over Cardinal Ritter. The two best class 3 teams in the state that year were in the Big 8. That Cassville defense was lights out.

I think they played Chillicothe in a 1 point game after that but that was back when St. louis football struggled to compete with the other half of the state

 

[f00tbraker]

Realistic? come on you talked trash about Monett in 2016 how the conference was down from 20 years ago LOL,...well back then would have been 1996 I believe Monett won the district back then and I can tell you that team was very average. I don't know that anybody made it very far that year. I think Maybe they tied for conference?

Listen Lamar didn't just fly the banner they were just down right awesome for several year they had kids coming thru that program that were just down right good. Just because they were a class 2 school beating up on a some bigger schools is nothing to be embarrassed about, They could have beaten alot of very good class 4 schools during that span, and they did beat CJ once.

And for what it is worth look at my post I thought the Cubs had a chance at the District title before the first game was played. I don't know how far this team can go, but

Its not that we disagree, it is you are just wrong and I just don't think you know our history. Aurora won the class 3 title in 1999 Seneca in 1995, besides those schools 20 years ago making the semis was just a pipe dream for most from the big 8.

We just got done with a pretty good run this last decade. Lamar had 7 straight class 2 title run. 2016 Monett class 3 champs. 2017 Mt Vernon Finals, 2015 Aurora semis. 2013 Seneca Finals. Monett 2012 & 2014 semis. May have left out a few. So again please tell me how the conference was so much better 20 years ago.

No doubt the Big 8 is probably the hardest predominately class 3 conference in the state with such a level playing field for the top 4-5 teams. I'm going to go out on a limb though and say that Big 8 football in the 2000's was a better brand than the 2010's (Excluding Lamar). A lot of the success in the past few years has come from where they are located on the state playoff bracket. With the way Districts are set up a Big 8 Team is pretty much guaranteed a quarterfinal appearance because they play other Big 8 teams the majority of the playoff run. So someone in the Big 8 is probably going to get to hang some semi or quarterfinal banner up every year under this system, but as I've stated before when you finally run into a legit team and get beat by 40, I personally don't think much of those banners. The MV teams the past two years are an example of this. The 2016 Monett Team had and good team and got the job done in the championship, but I will argue all day long that the 08 Cubs would handle them with not much struggle. I agree in that year that the two best Class 3 teams didn't meet in the state championship. Those 08, 09 Cassville teams were pretty tough. As you stated the conference has had at least a semi-finalist from 2012-18 and will likely have another this year, but that is more a result of a how the playoff system is setup than quality of football.

 

[FOURPLAY]

Realistic? come on you talked trash about Monett in 2016 how the conference was down from 20 years ago LOL,...well back then would have been 1996 I believe Monett won the district back then and I can tell you that team was very average. I don't know that anybody made it very far that year. I think Maybe they tied for conference?

Listen Lamar didn't just fly the banner they were just down right awesome for several year they had kids coming thru that program that were just down right good. Just because they were a class 2 school beating up on a some bigger schools is nothing to be embarrassed about, They could have beaten alot of very good class 4 schools during that span, and they did beat CJ once.

And for what it is worth look at my post I thought the Cubs had a chance at the District title before the first game was played. I don't know how far this team can go, but

Its not that we disagree, it is you are just wrong and I just don't think you know our history. Aurora won the class 3 title in 1999 Seneca in 1995, besides those schools 20 years ago making the semis was just a pipe dream for most from the big 8.

We just got done with a pretty good run this last decade. Lamar had 7 straight class 2 title run. 2016 Monett class 3 champs. 2017 Mt Vernon Finals, 2015 Aurora semis. 2013 Seneca Finals. Monett 2012 & 2014 semis. May have left out a few. So again please tell me how the conference was so much better 20 years ago.

Your hyper-sensitivity is showing. You are just talking about individual teams, and their successes. I am talking about the level of play over all in the conference. The 99 Aurora team was very good, and had more speed than any team I have seen in the Big 8 since, and Lamar has had a couple of fast kids, at times. The Cassville teams of the late 2000's were very good also. Mt. Vernon had a very good team in 06, just couldn't get past Harrisonville. Fact is, any of those teams would boat race any of the current crop of teams. The best Class 3 team I have seen in the past 5 years in the Big 8, would be the 15 Aurora team that lost in the semis. Got hit by the injury bug at mid season, or may have won it all. Right now, there there are 2 or 3 slightly above average teams in the conference. 1 or 2 of them will make it to at least the 1/4 finals. If you believe that some of the current teams are really good, then "Bless your little heart". I just prefer not to be a Big 8 Honk.

 

[bullitpdq68]

Your hyper-sensitivity is showing. You are just talking about individual teams, and their successes. I am talking about the level of play over all in the conference. The 99 Aurora team was very good, and had more speed than any team I have seen in the Big 8 since, and Lamar has had a couple of fast kids, at times. The Cassville teams of the late 2000's were very good also. Mt. Vernon had a very good team in 06, just couldn't get past Harrisonville. Fact is, any of those teams would boat race any of the current crop of teams. The best Class 3 team I have seen in the past 5 years in the Big 8, would be the 15 Aurora team that lost in the semis. Got hit by the injury bug at mid season, or may have won it all. Right now, there there are 2 or 3 slightly above average teams in the conference. 1 or 2 of them will make it to at least the 1/4 finals. If you believe that some of the current teams are really good, then "Bless your little heart". I just prefer not to be a Big 8 Honk.

 

[LHSTiger81]

The best Class 3 team I have seen in the past 5 years in the Big 8, would be the 15 Aurora team that lost in the semis.

I believe Lamar beat that Aurora team 41-0 in 2015. They beat them 56-6 the year before.

 

[MoSooner69]

Are you sure you have the right year? Aurora did go to the semis that year but they were far from dominant. They finished 9-5 on the year. They squeaked by Reeds Spring for the District Title and Mountain Grove in the quarters. They were good but hard to say they were the best.

 

[bullitpdq68]

Are you sure you have the right year? Aurora did go to the semis that year but they were far from dominant. They finished 9-5 on the year. They squeaked by Reeds Spring for the District Title and Mountain Grove in the quarters. They were good but hard to say they were the best.

LOL when he said that I realized at that point he knew less about the big 8's history than I have forgotten.

 

[FOURPLAY]

Are you sure you have the right year? Aurora did go to the semis that year but they were far from dominant. They finished 9-5 on the year. They squeaked by Reeds Spring for the District Title and Mountain Grove in the quarters. They were good but hard to say they were the best.

At full strength they would have been very hard to beat. They sustained 4 or 5 major injuries around week 4 or 5, but were still able make a run. Like I said, the injury bug bit them hard. Notice, I said class 3, not class 2. Cassville may have had the best team in the Big 8 last year, but losing 6 or 7 starters before the District championship game ruined it for them.

 

[Jr4038]

LOL when he said that I realized at that point he knew less about the big 8's history than I have forgotten.

He lost all credibility with me once he said that. Last 5 years would have to be the 16 Lamar to me! Beat Trinity at state. Turboed Valle Catholic at home and beat the class 3 champ Monett at home by two tds without their best player! No doubt the all around level of play from the Big 8 is down from years past.

 

[FOURPLAY]

LOL when he said that I realized at that point he knew less about the big 8's history than I have forgotten.

You must have forgotten a lot! I dont have a dog in the fight, but I do recognize skill, talent, or ability, or the lack thereof.

 

[O line wins games]

He lost all credibility with me once he said that. Last 5 years would have to be the 16 Lamar to me! Beat Trinity at state. Turboed Valle Catholic at home and beat the class 3 champ Monett at home by two tds without their best player! No doubt the all around level of play from the Big 8 is down from years past.

You lost all credibility when you tried to hop on with Lamar, except he very clearly said class 3.

 

[bullitpdq68]

No doubt the Big 8 is probably the hardest predominately class 3 conference in the state with such a level playing field for the top 4-5 teams. I'm going to go out on a limb though and say that Big 8 football in the 2000's was a better brand than the 2010's (Excluding Lamar). A lot of the success in the past few years has come from where they are located on the state playoff bracket. With the way Districts are set up a Big 8 Team is pretty much guaranteed a quarterfinal appearance because they play other Big 8 teams the majority of the playoff run. So someone in the Big 8 is probably going to get to hang some semi or quarterfinal banner up every year under this system, but as I've stated before when you finally run into a legit team and get beat by 40, I personally don't think much of those banners. The MV teams the past two years are an example of this. The 2016 Monett Team had and good team and got the job done in the championship, but I will argue all day long that the 08 Cubs would handle them with not much struggle. I agree in that year that the two best Class 3 teams didn't meet in the state championship. Those 08, 09 Cassville teams were pretty tough. As you stated the conference has had at least a semi-finalist from 2012-18 and will likely have another this year, but that is more a result of a how the playoff system is setup than quality of football.

Districts are different but getting to the semi's is not? Monett won three straight district titles in 96/97/98 Two of those years I think they either shared or won the conference title. However all three teams lost the first round. 1992 Aurora had a good team won the district but the next game against a Bolivar team that was 5-5 knocked them out of the playoffs. The Seneca Indians lead by Mac Whitehead who cruised thru the conference I don't think a conference opponent scored on them all year but CJ maybe scored 6, was ranked number one all year went to Bolivar and got beat by 2 Td's in 93.
In the 2000's we had some good teams but how many of those fizzled out after districts?
Yes now Harrionville most of the time was waiting for one team right out of districts but we got a second team in and they would usally get beat also, that is how the 06 Neers made it, But rarely did anybody make it out of the second round. We had good teams but not sure we had top teams, but we rarely went anywhere with Harrisonville. 08 Cubs were pretty good, but they got knocked out second round by cAssville who was 7-3 and what I thought was just okay. So yes districts are different but usually you still faced another big 8 school. Most of the time none of those teams got very far, just could not stack up against the elite programs in class 3.

 

[bullitpdq68]

You must have forgotten a lot! I dont have a dog in the fight, but I do recognize skill, talent, or ability, or the lack thereof.

Trust me I recognize the lack of your knowledge of the big 8...
You can say you don't have a dog in the fight but you and I both know that is not being truthful.

 

[Blue8505]

Districts are different but getting to the semi's is not? Monett won three straight district titles in 96/97/98 Two of those years I think they either shared or won the conference title. However all three teams lost the first round. 1992 Aurora had a good team won the district but the next game against a Bolivar team that was 5-5 knocked them out of the playoffs. The Seneca Indians lead by Mac Whitehead who cruised thru the conference I don't think a conference opponent scored on them all year but CJ maybe scored 6, was ranked number one all year went to Bolivar and got beat by 2 Td's in 93.
In the 2000's we had some good teams but how many of those fizzled out after districts?
Yes now Harrionville most of the time was waiting for one team right out of districts but we got a second team in and they would usally get beat also, that is how the 06 Neers made it, But rarely did anybody make it out of the second round. We had good teams but not sure we had top teams, but we rarely went anywhere with Harrisonville. 08 Cubs were pretty good, but they got knocked out second round by cAssville who was 7-3 and what I thought was just okay. So yes districts are different but usually you still faced another big 8 school. Most of the time none of those teams got very far, just could not stack up against the elite programs in class 3.

To be fair, that 5-5 Bolivar team was a big under performer until midway through the season in 92. Once they clicked they rolled through 92 barely losing the state title and in 93 they won 11 games before losing in the semi's to a gigantic Chillicothe team. Lot's of kids on that team went on to play college ball.

 

[Jr4038]

You lost all credibility when you tried to hop on with Lamar, except he very clearly said class 3.

Thought we were talking about the Big 8 and I didn't pay attention to the Class 3 part, my mistake!

 

[bullitpdq68]

To be fair, that 5-5 Bolivar team was a big under performer until midway through the season in 92. Once they clicked they rolled through 92 barely losing the state title and in 93 they won 11 games before losing in the semi's to a gigantic Chillicothe team. Lot's of kids on that team went on to play college ball.

I was at the Aurora Bolivar game, Aurora was leading most of the game and in comand when Bolivar called some trick play, and it went for a TD. That changed the game. To be honest me and a buddy were getting ready to leave because Aurora was so in control of that game. I think Aurora had beaten an undefeated Nixa team in districts. That Nixa team had pounded Bolivar earlier in the season.

I also thought Bolivar lost to Ozark the next year because they had one loss?

 

[Trim78]

Good luck tonight to the Monett Cubs!!

 

[indians03]

I had a feeling the the Cubs were going to be good this year, but I was thinking hey going to be class 4 in the same district as Webb so the best I was hoping for was we could get to the district title game and then see if we could put up a good fight against Webb, you know Cubs Versus Cards LOL.
But then the good news we got at least a one year reprieve and got bumped down to class 3. So far the boys have played pretty well over the season. They had really good game against Lamar along with two very heartbreaking and close loses to MV and cAssville. However these last couple of games they have played some good ball. Hopefully they can go down to Seneca and play up to their full potential.

Seneca was a dark horse coming in to this season they needed to replace their QB who the last three years had steadily guided them. First game out they had an early season lose against Catholic and an then a huge come from behind win against Reeds, but the last two games they have put together two very impressive wins, one at home against cAssville and the other on the road at Lamar which is a tuff out.

This game should be very good. and it has Big 8 West implications along with District standings. Monett needs to win to try and force a three way tie and try and stay in contention for a top seed. A Seneca win could seal the deal for them in the conference race and get them a high seed for Districts.

You at the game?

 

[bullitpdq68]

You at the game?

Yep

 

[blkdayz]

If not for Harrisonville the big 8 would have likely had state runs in 05 06 and 07. Cassville played them their closest game I think in 98 or so maybe even that year.

I do agree though that the class 3 bracket is set up in such a way that a big 8 team makes the semis almost every year. The qtr game could easily be big 8 vs big 8.

With that being said I don’t think the top of the conference this year is as good as in years past, but there is more balance and it’s still really good small school football.

I also think that with what is going on in STL. The big 8s hard nosed discipline football is facing a completely different animal than 5 or 10 years ago. I know that we could counter a couple of players by the type of program and football that is in the big 8, but the number of athletes now on these teams will be hard to compete with.

 

[Limbline]

I didn't watch all of this game, but I was really surprised at some of the decisions the Indians coach made. Such as going for 2 when they tied the game at 20. Has their kicker struggled or was he hurt? They made it, but it still surprised me.
Then immediately after making the 2 point conversion to go up by 2 in the 3rd, they tried an onsides kick, which they didn't recover. I was completely shocked by that decision. Monett went straight down and scored to retake the lead.

 

[bullitpdq68]

I didn't watch all of this game, but I was really surprised at some of the decisions the Indians coach made. Such as going for 2 when they tied the game at 20. Has their kicker struggled or was he hurt? They made it, but it still surprised me.
Then immediately after making the 2 point conversion to go up by 2 in the 3rd, they tried an onsides kick, which they didn't recover. I was completely shocked by that decision. Monett went straight down and scored to retake the lead.

The onside kick shocked me, you just got the lead and momentum so you decide to give monett the short field?

As for going do two probably not a bad decision, Monett blocked two extra point kicks.

 

[Limbline]

The onside kick shocked me, you just got the lead and momentum so you decide to give monett the short field?

As for going do two probably not a bad decision, Monett blocked two extra point kicks.

No doubt, I couldn't believe it either.
I didn't see the blocked kicks. Makes sense now.

 

[f00tbraker]

Districts are different but getting to the semi's is not? Monett won three straight district titles in 96/97/98 Two of those years I think they either shared or won the conference title. However all three teams lost the first round. 1992 Aurora had a good team won the district but the next game against a Bolivar team that was 5-5 knocked them out of the playoffs. The Seneca Indians lead by Mac Whitehead who cruised thru the conference I don't think a conference opponent scored on them all year but CJ maybe scored 6, was ranked number one all year went to Bolivar and got beat by 2 Td's in 93.
In the 2000's we had some good teams but how many of those fizzled out after districts?
Yes now Harrionville most of the time was waiting for one team right out of districts but we got a second team in and they would usally get beat also, that is how the 06 Neers made it, But rarely did anybody make it out of the second round. We had good teams but not sure we had top teams, but we rarely went anywhere with Harrisonville. 08 Cubs were pretty good, but they got knocked out second round by cAssville who was 7-3 and what I thought was just okay. So yes districts are different but usually you still faced another big 8 school. Most of the time none of those teams got very far, just could not stack up against the elite programs in class 3.

All I'm saying is the bracket is setup for at least one Big 8 team to make a run every single year, so when I hear all the talk about the Big 8 and the semi final appearances over the last decade it just doesn't make sense to me because someone from the conference was pretty much guaranteed to make it. As far as the 08 Cubs I'll still take them over 16. I know cAssville got them, but that rivalry can always go either way no matter how different the talent levels are.
Heck of a game by the cubs Friday night! They should roll their opponents the rest of the way.

 

[bullitpdq68]

All I'm saying is the bracket is setup for at least one Big 8 team to make a run every single year, so when I hear all the talk about the Big 8 and the semi final appearances over the last decade it just doesn't make sense to me because someone from the conference was pretty much guaranteed to make it. As far as the 08 Cubs I'll still take them over 16. I know cAssville got them, but that rivalry can always go either way no matter how different the talent levels are.
Heck of a game by the cubs Friday night! They should roll their opponents the rest of the way.

16 got the job done and they faced cAssville twice just like 08...and they won. I loved the 08 team and in all honesty they could have won it all, but they didn't, so hard to go down in history as the greatest when you weren't.

 

[f00tbraker]

16 got the job done and they faced cAssville twice just like 08...and they won. I loved the 08 team and in all honesty they could have won it all, but they didn't, so hard to go down in history as the greatest when you weren't.

I never mentioned anything about going down in history. Just referring to which year had the better football team. The competition level year to year is never the same so yes it will always just be an argument with no real conclusion. You mention the 06 Neer team that lost to Harrisonville. Brock is the best QB to ever come out of the Big 8 and they had plenty of help around him, and that team was one of the best teams the big 8 produced, but Harrisonville was just a little to much for them. That particular MV team would Turbo clock the 17 and 18 teams that made a deep run. Again every year is different, but schools reclassifying up or down, and the way the playoff bracket is setup has swung the door wide open in class 3.

 

[Keyboard_QB]

I never mentioned anything about going down in history. Just referring to which year had the better football team. The competition level year to year is never the same so yes it will always just be an argument with no real conclusion. You mention the 06 Neer team that lost to Harrisonville. Brock is the best QB to ever come out of the Big 8 and they had plenty of help around him, and that team was one of the best teams the big 8 produced, but Harrisonville was just a little to much for them. That particular MV team would Turbo clock the 17 and 18 teams that made a deep run. Again every year is different, but schools reclassifying up or down, and the way the playoff bracket is setup has swung the door wide open in class 3.

Curious, in your opinion, who is the best team the big 8 ever produced?

 

[bullitpdq68]

I never mentioned anything about going down in history. Just referring to which year had the better football team. The competition level year to year is never the same so yes it will always just be an argument with no real conclusion. You mention the 06 Neer team that lost to Harrisonville. Brock is the best QB to ever come out of the Big 8 and they had plenty of help around him, and that team was one of the best teams the big 8 produced, but Harrisonville was just a little to much for them. That particular MV team would Turbo clock the 17 and 18 teams that made a deep run. Again every year is different, but schools reclassifying up or down, and the way the playoff bracket is setup has swung the door wide open in class 3.

Listen I liked both teams, both had good and bad, but I am the sort of fan that you will find me at a Monett game even if we are 0-6, I love to support the Cubs!

The fact that Monett is even class 3 this year proves that... one more small school stays in 11 man and we are in class 4 this year.

I have been watching football since the mid 70's football changes, district changes playoff changes, but today's high school players are stronger and faster than anything I saw in high school. I don't know that any player from 08 still has any lifting records today in Monett, kids just keep getting stronger. To try and take anything away from the work these kids put in, or you did back in the day, I think is crazy. The dedication and time all players put in the off season and weights is great, so I think if you make it to the semi's being just one of 4 schools left out of 64 schools in class 3 that says something, no matter the path.

 

[f00tbraker]

Listen I liked both teams, both had good and bad, but I am the sort of fan that you will find me at a Monett game even if we are 0-6, I love to support the Cubs!

The fact that Monett is even class 3 this year proves that... one more small school stays in 11 man and we are in class 4 this year.

I have been watching football since the mid 70's football changes, district changes playoff changes, but today's high school players are stronger and faster than anything I saw in high school. I don't know that any player from 08 still has any lifting records today in Monett, kids just keep getting stronger. To try and take anything away from the work these kids put in, or you did back in the day, I think is crazy. The dedication and time all players put in the off season and weights is great, so I think if you make it to the semi's being just one of 4 schools left out of 64 schools in class 3 that says something, no matter the path.

 

[FOURPLAY]

I never mentioned anything about going down in history. Just referring to which year had the better football team. The competition level year to year is never the same so yes it will always just be an argument with no real conclusion. You mention the 06 Neer team that lost to Harrisonville. Brock is the best QB to ever come out of the Big 8 and they had plenty of help around him, and that team was one of the best teams the big 8 produced, but Harrisonville was just a little to much for them. That particular MV team would Turbo clock the 17 and 18 teams that made a deep run. Again every year is different, but schools reclassifying up or down, and the way the playoff bracket is setup has swung the door wide open in class 3.

Agreed. Some people just have different standards for what makes a good team. We have all seen some middle of the road teams, have much success due to level of competition, or a coaching staff that can help them overcome a lack of athleticism, with skill.