Molina/Matheny

[Eagles_Ball]

https://www.vivaelbirdos.com/st-lou...r-molina-says-he-is-not-tired-a-hunt-and-peck

Interesting little development here. I'll just be over here...

 

[wccards21]

https://www.vivaelbirdos.com/st-lou...r-molina-says-he-is-not-tired-a-hunt-and-peck

Interesting little development here. I'll just be over here...

I'll buy an extra drink if you'll share the popcorn. This is going to be fun to watch

 

[vbsideout]

I'll buy an extra drink if you'll share the popcorn. This is going to be fun to watch

Not sure where this ends up, but seems like the players are gunning for MM's job. If MO has MM's back then I suspect he trades Wong and Pham because they liked Yadi's post and there is not much they can do with DL Fowler who came to St. Louis to play CF,.and if he takes Yadi's side then they trade Kelly. This team is a mess and still remains only 3,5 games out. I would trade Lynn, Yadi, Fowler, Pham and Wong for whatever I could get and then fire MM and promote Stubby and pretty much start over with the Memphis kids the rest of the year and see what you have. See new lineup below
Carp 1b
Bader RF
Dejong SS
Gyrko 2b
Piscotti LF
Wisdom 3b
Sierra CF
Kelly C
Grichuk 4th OF
In the words of our President what the hell do yo have to lose!

 

[wccards21]

Not sure where this ends up, but seems like the players are gunning for MM's job. If MO has MM's back then I suspect he trades Wong and Pham because they liked Yadi's post and there is not much they can do with DL Fowler who came to St. Louis to play CF,.and if he takes Yadi's side then they trade Kelly. This team is a mess and still remains only 3,5 games out. I would trade Lynn, Yadi, Fowler, Pham and Wong for whatever I could get and then fire MM and promote Stubby and pretty much start over with the Memphis kids the rest of the year and see what you have. See new lineup below
Carp 1b
Bader RF
Dejong SS
Gyrko 2b
Piscotti LF
Wisdom 3b
Sierra CF
Kelly C
Grichuk 4th OF
In the words of our President what the hell do yo have to lose!

At this point, you have to take the players side and burn it down...start fresh. Much easier to replace a few coach's rather than reconstruct an entire roster. I'm guessing there are not many players going against Yadi.

I mean, I get that they have to work out a younger catcher to replace Yadi. But it really sounds like there was zero communication.

 

[vbsideout]

At this point, you have to take the players side and burn it down...start fresh. Much easier to replace a few coach's rather than reconstruct an entire roster. I'm guessing there are not many players going against Yadi.

I mean, I get that they have to work out a younger catcher to replace Yadi. But it really sounds like there was zero communication.

I kind of get the feeling Yadi is trying to force the issue. He and his brother kind of did the same thing during negotiations these guys are so bad I would blow up the whole thing, Mgr and players and maybe even the new President,

 

[oldroundballer]

I think this whole thing is more related to Carson Kelly than anything. I don't see it going well with Yadi. Kelly has already been anointed the next catcher. I don't think Yadi is going to be willing to give playing time to Kelly and be his mentor to help him take his job possibly sooner than later. I'm sure Yadi expects to be the full time catcher the next 3 years. Kelly is 23 and by all accounts pretty close to being major league ready. You can't sit him on the bench and only play once every couple weeks for 3 years and forcing him to stay in the minors a couple more isn't fair to him either. I'm not sure what the answer is.

It's always a nice thought to have a player play his whole career with the same team. But that guy has to be willing to swallow his ego and have his time reduced at some point. It didn't work with Ozzie and I'm not sure it's going to with Yadi either. There aren't very many Tim Duncans in the professional sports world.

 

[Neutron Monster]

Something has to give between Yadi and Kelly at some point.

The third year on the Yadi extension is going to look pretty rough relative to what Kelly is likely to be by then

Have to wonder if Kelly is available for another good prospect at SP/SS

 

[Eagles_Ball]

Something has to give between Yadi and Kelly at some point.

The third year on the Yadi extension is going to look pretty rough relative to what Kelly is likely to be by then

Have to wonder if Kelly is available for another good prospect at SP/SS

That scares me a bit. Catching prospects aren't easy to come by. What's Yadi's worth on the market? But that scares me too. Sure would like to have him to tutor Reyes, Weaver, Flaherty, and Alcantara.

 

[Neutron Monster]

That scares me a bit. Catching prospects aren't easy to come by. What's Yadi's worth on the market? But that scares me too. Sure would like to have him to tutor Reyes, Weaver, Flaherty, and Alcantara.

I don't think it really matters what Yadi's worth is. He has 10 & 5 rights. I can't imagine him allowing a deal.

The contract is a bit of a millstone that would limit it in any case. A lot of teams won't want that contract in 2019 or 2020. The prospects/players you'd get back would probably be weak unless you ate money.