Lets take a Look at 7 Equal classes

[cardsfan200306]

This uses next years DESE numbers with current year private numbers

Enrollment Breaks are

Class 1 is 91-181 44 Teams (duchesne is the top moving them to C2)
Class 2 is 188-300 44 Teams
Class 3 is 301-439 43 Teams
Class 4 is 447 - 604 44 Teams
Class 5 is 607 - 958 43 Teams
Class 6 is 973 - 1257 44 Teams
Class 7 is 1259 - 1842 43 Teams

Noone is over a 2.0 ratio
Every class has 43 or 44 teams
Will need 8 Districts with 5 or 6 teams in them in each class

Classes below in comments

Tear it up with complaints that's what a discussion board is for

 

[cardsfan200306]

Class 1

Portageville 180

Sarcoxie 180

Sherwood 180

Grandview (Hillsboro) 177

South Callaway 177

Adrian 174

Pierce City 173

West Platte 172

Marionville 171

Cole Camp 170

Skyline 170

Windsor 170

Crest Ridge/Chilhowee 169

Miller 169

Thayer 169

Linn 163

Malden 162

Russellville 161

Fayette 158

Cabool 157

Ash Grove 155

Maysville/Winston 155

Gallatin/Tri-County 154

Charleston 153

North Platte 151

Louisiana 148

Chaffee 144

Tipton 143

Penney 142

Marceline 140

Putnam County 140

Van-Far 140

Milan 139

Christian 138

Westran 134

Harrisburg 132

Salisbury 131

Scotland County 123

Lincoln 122

St. Vincent 117

Crystal City 114

Hayti 111

Polo 106

Midway 91

 

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Class 2

Clever 300

Priory 300

Lawson 296

Liberty (Mountain View) 294

Bowling Green 292

Springfield Catholic 290

Houston 288

KIPP KC Legacy 287

Versailles 285

El Dorado Springs 281

Fair Grove 281

North Callaway 273

Central (New Madrid County) 271

Stockton/Sheldon 269

Lone Jack/Kingsville 259

Father Tolton Regional Catholic 256

Montgomery County 255

Palmyra 252

Lexington 250

Trenton 250

Hogan Prep Academy Charter 248

Hermann 246

East Prairie 241

Clark County 239

Jefferson (Festus) 238

Kelly 235

St. Pius X (Festus) 227

Butler 224

Lafayette County 222

Scott City 213

Lathrop 211

Brookfield 210

Mid-Buchanan 206

East Buchanan 203

Mark Twain 199

Monroe City 198

Diamond 194

Caruthersville 193

Highland 193

South Harrison 191

South Shelby 190

Carrollton 188

Duchesne 181 up 1

Valle Catholic 99 up 1

 

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Class 3

Reeds Spring 439

Dexter 430

Chillicothe 428

Southern Boone 425

Owensville 424

Ste. Genevieve 414

Bayless 413

Lutheran South 412

Buffalo 409

Kennett 406

Principia/Whitfield 406

Winfield 402

Roosevelt/Carnahan 395

Maryville 393

St. James 385

Mt. Vernon 380

Richmond 376

East Newton 366

Herculaneum 363

California 358

Cameron 352

Mountain Grove 352

Hallsville 350

John Burroughs 344

Seneca 342

Hollister 338

Knob Noster 331

Cuba 330

Blair Oaks 328

St. Francis Borgia 327

Strafford 326

Macon 319

Ava 316

Centralia 316

Forsyth 315

Pembroke Hill 311

St. Michael the Archangel 310

Warsaw 308

Willow Springs 308

Lamar 307

Holden 301

Lift for Life Academy Charter 273 up 1

Summit Christian Academy 253 up 1

 

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Class 4

Normandy Collaborative 604

St. Charles 604

Excelsior Springs 600

Kirksville 595

Gateway 592

Nevada 578

Savannah 578

Perryville 574

Soldan /Sumner 574

Northeast (Kansas City) 572

Harrisonville 571

Affton 570

Logan-Rogersville 566

Monett 565

Pleasant Hill 555

Sullivan 546

Center 542

Jennings 538

Orchard Farm 529

St. Clair 528

Osage 526

Potosi 523

Lafayette (St. Joseph) 522

Benton 519

Fulton 519

Bishop DuBourg/Hancock 515

Moberly 511

Westminster Christian Academy 510

Cassville 500

Salem 500

Odessa 497

Clinton 495

Central (Park Hills) 494

St. Charles West 485

University Academy/Kauffman 484

Eldon 477

Fredericktown 474

Aurora 466

Boonville 462

Oak Grove 460

Wright City 447

Lutheran St. Charles 320 up 1

St. Pius X (Kansas City) 276 up 2

Lutheran North 202 up 2

 

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Class 5

University City/Maplewood 958

Grandview 953

Parkway Central 935

Winnetonka 933

Vashon/Miller Career 931

McCluer 926

Raytown South 925

Rockwood Summit 917

West Plains 916

Hillcrest 909

McCluer North 903

Ft. Zumwalt South 893

Ft. Zumwalt East 888

Van Horn 882

McDonald County 874

Southeast/Central KC 869

East (Kansas City) 854

Hillsboro 831

Kearney 829

Holt 828

Hannibal 800

Festus 799

Warrensburg 790

Lincoln College Prep 771

Carl Junction 753

Sikeston 753

Union 753

Clayton/Brentwood 750

Parkway North 747

Warrenton 745

Pacific 739

Confluence Prep /Grand Center 702

Windsor (Imperial) 690

DeSoto 685

Marshfield 681

Bolivar 672

North County 664

Smithville 645

Marshall 616

Mexico 607

Helias Catholic 504 up 1

St. Mary's South Side 310 up 2

Cardinal Ritter 315 up 2

 

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Class 6

Liberty (Wentzville) 1257

Francis Howell North 1256

Ft. Zumwalt West 1248

Neosho 1211

Eureka 1208

Battle/Columbia Indy 1196

Timberland 1192

Poplar Bluff 1174

Fort Osage 1172

Smith-Cotton 1169

Ft. Zumwalt North 1163

Republic 1132

Lebanon 1119

William Chrisman 1115

Parkway South 1114

Glendale 1108

Grain Valley 1101

Rolla 1100

Willard 1096

Branson 1092

Jefferson City 1091

Mehlville 1091

Parkview 1078

North Point 1065

Webb City 1052

Central (Springfield) 1049

Raytown 1045

Farmington 1044

Parkway West 1041

Capital City 1036

Ruskin 1036

Ladue Horton Watkins 1012

Central (Cape Girardeau) 1008

Belton 1007

Platte County 1006

Riverview Gardens 1002

Hazelwood East 996

Camdenton 976

Washington 973

Webster Groves 973

MICDS 476 up 2

St. Dominic 804 up 1

Chaminade College Prep 826 up 1

Vianney 874 up 1

 

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Class 7

Blue Springs 1842

Blue Springs South 1794

Joplin 1738

Liberty North 1723

Lindbergh 1722

Troy Buchanan 1648

Marquette 1576

Ritenour 1561

Staley 1551

Hickman 1546

Hazelwood West 1542

Kickapoo 1540

Rock Bridge 1532

Raymore-Peculiar 1530

Nixa 1527

Pattonville 1508

SLUH 1506

Park Hill 1499

Lee's Summit 1478

Lee's Summit North 1450

Lee's Summit West 1439

Northwest (Cedar Hill) 1423

Park Hill South 1420

Jackson 1415

Liberty 1413

Oakville 1406

Francis Howell 1400

Rockhurst 1392 up 1 (cant)

Ozark 1376

Hazelwood Central 1360

Francis Howell Central 1359

Oak Park 1328

Central (St. Joseph) 1327

Truman 1319

CBC 1318 up 2 (cant)

Waynesville 1318

Seckman 1311

North Kansas City 1297

Kirkwood 1280

Fox 1263

Carthage 1260

Lafayette (Wildwood) 1259

De Smet Jesuit 860 up 2

 

[kaching]

I like it. Book it. Stamp it. Sign it in ink.

 

[Rufus R. Jones]

Your team having trouble winning one under the current system?

 

[bullitpdq68]

My only question is how did Carthage move to the largest class when adding a class, but in just 6 classes they are in class 5?

 

[cardsfan200306]

Your team having trouble winning one under the current system?

nope my team makes the playoffs consistently and stays in a class with the perennial power houses of the current system. Good luck finding my angle although its been stated many times that i believe the current system of small top and bottom class with over saturated middle classes is a terrible look, furthermore 6 even classes would have alot of teams drop to 8 man which i hate. Therefore to provide the best possible equal opportunity for all kids even classes that dont have more than a 2.0 ratio is the best system in my opinion

 

[JNsDaddyzDaddyIownU]

This uses next years DESE numbers with current year private numbers

Enrollment Breaks are

Class 1 is 91-181 44 Teams (duchesne is the top moving them to C2)
Class 2 is 188-300 44 Teams
Class 3 is 301-439 43 Teams
Class 4 is 447 - 604 44 Teams
Class 5 is 607 - 958 43 Teams
Class 6 is 973 - 1257 44 Teams
Class 7 is 1259 - 1842 43 Teams

Noone is over a 2.0 ratio
Every class has 43 or 44 teams
Will need 8 Districts with 5 or 6 teams in them in each class

Classes below in comments

Tear it up with complaints that's what a discussion board is for

Perfection.

 

[cardsfan200306]

My only question is how did Carthage move to the largest class when adding a class, but in just 6 classes they are in class 5?

so, there is a few factors to that Carthage was a 1232 enrollment last year and this coming year will be a 1260, the cut for class 6 last year was 1277 so they were on the edge to begin with last year and now with a rise in enrollment vs the other schools' fluctuations this is where they end up by math.

 

[Rufus R. Jones]

nope my team makes the playoffs consistently and stays in a class with the perennial power houses of the current system. Good luck finding my angle although its been stated many times that i believe the current system of small top and bottom class with over saturated middle classes is a terrible look, furthermore 6 even classes would have alot of teams drop to 8 man which i hate. Therefore to provide the best possible equal opportunity for all kids even classes that dont have more than a 2.0 ratio is the best system in my opinion

It's watered down enough, as is.

 

[JNsDaddyzDaddyIownU]

so, there is a few factors to that Carthage was a 1232 enrollment last year and this coming year will be a 1260, the cut for class 6 last year was 1277 so they were on the edge to begin with last year and now with a rise in enrollment vs the other schools' fluctuations this is where they end up by math.

The best improvement is in the 3,4,5 range. The size factor there now is crazy in class 4, which was made worse with the increase of 6, moving teams up. See Pleasant Hill and Savannah. PHill got screwed playing Jeff City, who actually should have been class five. The differential was nearly 2x. Savannah was a solid team. But in C4, they are playing schools almost twice their size.

 

[cardsfan200306]

It's watered down enough, as is.

I understand why your nickname is rudus the dufus. 6 Classes the current way is ridiculous and unfair, 6 even classes would lose you teams to 8 man, and 5 even classes would lose you even more to 8 man. We have to try and get more participation not less.

 

[cardsfan200306]

The best improvement is in the 3,4,5 range. The size factor there now is crazy in class 4, which was made worse with the increase of 6, moving teams up. See Pleasant Hill and Savannah. PHill got screwed playing Jeff City, who actually should have been class five. The differential was nearly 2x. Savannah was a solid team. But in C4, they are playing schools almost twice their size.

agree, i mean we can make it great with 10 classes of 30 but thats a joke. Top class still has its disadvantages with a 600 kid spread. I get people and the ratio talk but screw ratios, law of average says there is some extra talent in a pool of 600 kids. I think this is the best we can do unless we eliminate 8 man and look at a possibility of 8 classes but i aint got the numbers or time for that dream work today

 

[J. Kane]

I understand why your nickname is rudus the dufus. 6 Classes the current way is ridiculous and unfair, 6 even classes would lose you teams to 8 man, and 5 even classes would lose you even more to 8 man. We have to try and get more participation not less.

 

[cardsfan200306]

quite a few

 

[Veer2Eternity]

It's watered down enough, as is.

we should split public/private and have only one class for private schools.

Don't want to water it down.

 

[Rufus R. Jones]

I understand why your nickname is rudus the dufus.

Because I don't agree with you? Is this really veer2eternity, or do you just act like a bitch like him?

 

[JNsDaddyzDaddyIownU]

Because I don't agree with you? Is this really veer2eternity, or do you just act like a bitch like him?

I thought I was the ONLY ONE who used multiple logins?

 

[J. Kane]

quite a few

 

[JNsDaddyzDaddyIownU]

agree, i mean we can make it great with 10 classes of 30 but thats a joke. Top class still has its disadvantages with a 600 kid spread. I get people and the ratio talk but screw ratios, law of average says there is some extra talent in a pool of 600 kids. I think this is the best we can do unless we eliminate 8 man and look at a possibility of 8 classes but i aint got the numbers or time for that dream work today

I guess Kansas is a joke then. They have six classes from 30 (at least two at 30) up to 42 in each class.

 

[thesnow.flakegazette]

I would prefer this was well. Creates the most balanced ratio between classes.

The only modification I would make is a 3 class cap on private schools. The points could be 3-6-9 or 2-5-8.

 

[cardsfan200306]

Because I don't agree with you? Is this really veer2eternity, or do you just act like a bitch like him?

No dipshit because the current system isn't watered down. Obviously people van disagree with me as that jacktard from Kearney and I disagree on everything but this topic which is weird. If anyone is acting like a bitch it's you.

 

[cardsfan200306]

It's not hard to lookup

 

[cardsfan200306]

I guess Kansas is a joke then. They have six classes from 30 (at least two at 30) up to 42 in each class.

Imo yes

 

[cardsfan200306]

I would prefer this was well. Creates the most balanced ratio between classes.

The only modification I would make is a 3 class cap on private schools. The points could be 3-6-9 or 2-5-8.

With the addition of a class there is possibility of an extra bump but I didn't want to get to crazy it's not like I make 6 figures at mshsaa for doing this kind of thing. Although if the jobs open I'm here

 

[Rufus R. Jones]

No dipshit because the current system isn't watered down. Obviously people van disagree with me as that backyard from Kearney and I disagree on everything but this topic which is weird. If anyone is acting like a bitch it's you.

It is watered down. You want to water it down more.
YOU get a trophy! And YOU get a trophy! And YOU get a trophy! EVERYBODY gets a trophy!

 

[bullitpdq68]

Oh hell let's just go back to 4 teams make the playoffs, better yet let's go back to bowl games.

 

[thesnow.flakegazette]

It is watered down. You want to water it down more.

Who cares. It’s high schools sports not the NFL

 

[bullitpdq68]

It is watered down. You want to water it down more.
YOU get a trophy! And YOU get a trophy! And YOU get a trophy! EVERYBODY gets a trophy!

How is trying to level the playing field watering it down. So bigger Schools can continue to beat their chest and brag how they beat down schools that have half their enrollment?

 

[Veer2Eternity]

Because I don't agree with you? Is this really veer2eternity, or do you just act like a bitch like him?

I guess you got butthurt with the talk about one private school class.
You'll be ok doofus. There's always next year.

 

[Rufus R. Jones]

How is trying to level the playing field watering it down. So Schools can beat their chest and brag how they beat down schools that have half their enrollment?

Increasing the number of classes is watering it down. People have always bitched that the system is unfair. They always will. Particularly the ones not winning.

 

[bullitpdq68]

Increasing the number of classes is watering it down. People have always bitched that the system is unfair. They always will. Particularly the ones not winning.

Then why have classes at all isn't that watering it down, should we not just crown a single Champion?

 

[Rufus R. Jones]

Then why have classes at all isn't that watering it down, should we not just crown a single Champion?

Sure. All for it. It'll probably happen, too.

 

[Veer2Eternity]

It is watered down. You want to water it down more.
YOU get a trophy! And YOU get a trophy! And YOU get a trophy! EVERYBODY gets a trophy!

you didnt get a trophy

 

[thetophat2021]

No dipshit because the current system isn't watered down. Obviously people van disagree with me as that backyard from Kearney and I disagree on everything but this topic which is weird. If anyone is acting like a bitch it's you.

This will teach me to peek in at the Football board in JANUARY.............