How much does Coaching have to do with STL superstar teams losing in the playoffs?

[STLFTBL]

After watching the defending State Champion Cardinal Ritter lose to Lafayette, it caused me to look at recent all star teams from St. Louis losing in the playoffs. Last year Lutheran North lost to Hillsboro in which it was evident the young staff at Lutheran North was outcoached. What I am seeing is that even though you have superior talent, it does not translate into State Titles because you always run into a team who is better prepared than you. It seems that the older staffs and the staffs from outside the STL area take the X's and O's more serious and that is why we see these big upsets. Looking for other opinions, but how can a team loaded with D1 prospects lose to teams that may not have any? Really looking to others opinions on this topic, how much does Coaching have to do with a team winning in the playoffs?

 

[TheDaddy]

Kearney coach only in his third year and whoever said there is no D1 talent on Kearney because there are plenty of them. Coaching has a lot to do with it period you can't just win with the athletes. There is more to the game than a 40 time weight room is probably the biggest difference you will see from the Kearney team. I talk to people all over the place and the one common thing they say is where did you get all those grown ass men? I tell them they are self made in the weight room.

 

[Veer2Eternity]

Kearney coach only in his third year and whoever said there is no D1 talent on Kearney because there are plenty of them. Coaching has a lot to do with it period you can't just win with the athletes. There is more to the game than a 40 time weight room is probably the biggest difference you will see from the Kearney team. I talk to people all over the place and the one common thing they say is where did you get all those grown ass men? I tell them they are self made in the weight room.

and your two most grown men moved in.

That's pretty handy

 

[TheDaddy]

and your two most grown men moved in.

That's pretty handy

It does help I will admit.

 

[NorthKansascity]

To the OP.

Are we sure STL has better athletes than KC?

Are we sure Kearney and other schools similar are that much stronger than the STL schools?

Just asking because I know we hype up how crazy Kearney is in the WT room but I do wonder if those boys over at LN are comparable in strength.

 

[thesnow.flakegazette]

To the OP.

Are we sure STL has better athletes than KC?

Are we sure Kearney and other schools similar are that much stronger than the STL schools?

Just asking because I know we hype up how crazy Kearney is in the WT room but I do wonder if those boys over at LN are comparable in strength.

P4 D1 talent, yes. After that, no.
KC has far superior coaching top to bottom.

 

[thetophat2021]

P4 D1 talent, yes. After that, no.
KC has far superior coaching top to bottom.

This metro has always been a haven for great coaching!

 

[thetophat2021]

and your two most grown men moved in.

That's pretty handy

Southeast Polk so loves it..................

 

[65TPT]

After watching the defending State Champion Cardinal Ritter lose to Lafayette, it caused me to look at recent all star teams from St. Louis losing in the playoffs. Last year Lutheran North lost to Hillsboro in which it was evident the young staff at Lutheran North was outcoached. What I am seeing is that even though you have superior talent, it does not translate into State Titles because you always run into a team who is better prepared than you. It seems that the older staffs and the staffs from outside the STL area take the X's and O's more serious and that is why we see these big upsets. Looking for other opinions, but how can a team loaded with D1 prospects lose to teams that may not have any? Really looking to others opinions on this topic, how much does Coaching have to do with a team winning in the playoffs?

I think coaching makes a huge difference. Those teams are undisciplined and not fundamentally sound. When they run into teams that are well coached and have their fair share of talent they struggle. There’s just not many teams in the state that have the talent to compete with these guys.

I do think the other thing is kids are recruited on potential more than how good they actually are. Whereas some kids don’t get the offers as others because they will never meet the height, weight, speed requirements that D1 colleges want, but they are tremendous high school football players.

 

[thetophat2021]

After watching the defending State Champion Cardinal Ritter lose to Lafayette, it caused me to look at recent all star teams from St. Louis losing in the playoffs. Last year Lutheran North lost to Hillsboro in which it was evident the young staff at Lutheran North was outcoached. What I am seeing is that even though you have superior talent, it does not translate into State Titles because you always run into a team who is better prepared than you. It seems that the older staffs and the staffs from outside the STL area take the X's and O's more serious and that is why we see these big upsets. Looking for other opinions, but how can a team loaded with D1 prospects lose to teams that may not have any? Really looking to others opinions on this topic, how much does Coaching have to do with a team winning in the playoffs?

CBC lost the prior week to Kirkwood.

 

[thetophat2021]

I think coaching makes a huge difference. Those teams are undisciplined and not fundamentally sound. When they run into teams that are well coached and have their fair share of talent they struggle. There’s just not many teams in the state that have the talent to compete with these guys.

I do think the other thing is kids are recruited on potential more than how good they actually are. Whereas some kids don’t get the offers as others because they will never meet the height, weight, speed requirements that D1 colleges want, but they are tremendous high school football players.

Go all the way back to the day Minnick hired on as Kearney HC (early 2022) I called it a home run hire. I was wrong it was a freaking grand slam and that is irregardless what happens this Saturday.