Can you explain to me again how Kim Anderson is going to improve this Mizzou basketball team over the rudderless Frank Haith? Because to my eye this team has not improved at all since the beginning of the season and just got pounded by 20 on their home court against an average Ole Miss team.
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So a YOUNG group of kids he took over from Haith, is suspposed to be his signature year? Dude you're the exact reason other fans hate MU fans.
Don't support the team on down years and brag about them when times are good.
Again, Haith left for a reason. SMDH. Dumbest smart kid I've seen on these boards.
Don't support the team on down years and brag about them when times are good.
Again, Haith left for a reason. SMDH. Dumbest smart kid I've seen on these boards.
That team is certainly a dumpster fire right now. Probably the worst basketball team in the power 6 conferences. i'm guessing worst MU team in 50 years.
I think Anderson is a decent coach and in 2-3 years he will have Missouri respectable. I don't think he is going to ever be hugely successful. He might be the guy that gets you to the guy.
Who hoe would have thought MU would go to the SEC and have almost immediate success in football while turning into a
doormat in basketball?
ha, the guy hasn't even been there a year, you got to give it some time, it's not like he came in with a bunch of studs,
Like I thought, no one can point to any improvement Kim Anderson has given this mizzou team.
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"Dude you're the exact reason other fans hate MU fans.
Don't support the team on down years and brag about them when times are good. "
Serious question, is it better to then just claim your school as a one sport school thus there should be no reason to support the struggling sport nor for others to criticize said sport (i.e..: "everyone knows kU is a basketball school".- says the Nebraska football/kU basketball fan)?
Don't support the team on down years and brag about them when times are good. "
Serious question, is it better to then just claim your school as a one sport school thus there should be no reason to support the struggling sport nor for others to criticize said sport (i.e..: "everyone knows kU is a basketball school".- says the Nebraska football/kU basketball fan)?
One thing is for certain, KA does not coddle the players and isnt afraid to call them out publically. Right now immature players are testing KA and are losing to him and to thier opponents. Once they grow up and buy in or leave, theyll be a different team. Thats not going to happen immediately. My worry would be the way the culture of college basketball is today, the freshmen who were told they were great coming in and have not performed at a high level will transfer , JW3 averages double digits so he should certainly go pro after the season, and once again we will be starting over with another young group (plus Rosberg) next season.
I have plenty. When it comes to talent it's hard to polish a turd. Many coaches start out this way in a new school. Coach K had a losing record in 2 of his first 3 years and it looked like he would be done after year 4. You have nothing. Just as I thought.
You do realize that they lost their top three and main scorers from last year? Williams was the top returning scorer at less than 6 points a game. The dude is a top ten all-time coach at the DII level and took over a lackluster job in Como.
Bo Ryan ring a bell for you?
Again, why would Frank Haith leave Missouri for Tulsa?
Bo Ryan ring a bell for you?
Again, why would Frank Haith leave Missouri for Tulsa?
An empty team? As in the 3rd worst team in the P5 conferences according to ken Pom? You really believe the roster has that little talent? You have to believe rivals missed on all these guys if that's your opinion.
And again, it's NOT about the record. It's about IMPROVEMENT. Kim Anderson hasn't improved this team one iota in 3 months.
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And again, it's NOT about the record. It's about IMPROVEMENT. Kim Anderson hasn't improved this team one iota in 3 months.
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Gary Pinkel went 4-7, 5-7, 8-5, 5-6, 3 losing seasons in his first 4 years a MU. It was well informed know-it all's just like you that wanted his head for not showing any improvement. Your ability to evaluate coaching talent leaves a lot to be desired so just shut your pie hole. I really tire of your know it all attitude. I really question your common sense smart boy like you spending all your time on MoSports of posting on here with all of us low intelligent people. You would be better served out chasing tail if you're into that type thing.
I might add your condescending post to Drop Tine was very childish. Ewe no the won. No need to respond, not interested.
I might add your condescending post to Drop Tine was very childish. Ewe no the won. No need to respond, not interested.
Gary pinkel's teams all showed improvement, especially when he brought in a great quarterback. Furthermore, pinkel had shown he could win at the D1 level. Anderson has not, and that's a fact.
The rest of your post is childish and not worth my time.
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1) This is a football board right?
2) While they may not be winning games, my view is that there has been improvement in HOW they are playing games since the start of the year. They may not be playing consistently, or reaching their potential - but they have provided much more glimpses of a tough and gritty style of play on which you can build a foundation. The young freshman have potential and give glimpses of what we hoped we would see when they were recruited.
2) While they may not be winning games, my view is that there has been improvement in HOW they are playing games since the start of the year. They may not be playing consistently, or reaching their potential - but they have provided much more glimpses of a tough and gritty style of play on which you can build a foundation. The young freshman have potential and give glimpses of what we hoped we would see when they were recruited.
GP's teams showed improvement from one year to the next, or I assume is what you mean? And I wouldn't really call Toledo a D-I program. Yes, they are. But lets not confuse the MAAC with a power conference or anything. I'm too lazy to do the work outside of his last two year...but it looks like their "biggest" win was a win in Happy Valley against a Penn St team that finished the year 5-7.
Never easy to watch the teams you love struggle. And it's a struggle right now for the Tigers. And I'm sure you'll see plenty of one step forward and two steps back stuff. He'll get the roster where he wants it in another year or two, or at least have the opportunity to. If they're still not competitive, he'll be shown the door. And nobody will wonder if he was given ample opportunity.
Hard to compare pros to college but I look at this
as I do Blatt in Cleveland. The Cavs were sitting
at like 18 and 20 with 6 straight losses and all the
media was hyping the NBA is to much for Blatt.
They said he was over his head and didn't
understand the NBA game. Since then they have
went 10-0. The guy will do fine at MU once he gets
his players and they buy into his system or scheme.
I mean it's MU they're a FOOTBALL school LOL
as I do Blatt in Cleveland. The Cavs were sitting
at like 18 and 20 with 6 straight losses and all the
media was hyping the NBA is to much for Blatt.
They said he was over his head and didn't
understand the NBA game. Since then they have
went 10-0. The guy will do fine at MU once he gets
his players and they buy into his system or scheme.
I mean it's MU they're a FOOTBALL school LOL
So going 8-5 the back to 5-6 is showing improvement in his 4th year with his players he recruited? I remember back then there was a lot and I mean a lot of people calling for Pinkel's head even in 05 and 06 when he went just 4-4 in conference, this board there was talk about his soft out of conference wins and his lack luster preference in conference. Especially when he lost to a 3-4 Kansas team in 05 13-3. His first winning record in the big 12 was not until his 7th season. I would say he was just average at best. But Missouri stayed with him and now look at the program.
I am not sure about KA yet, but I know enough about coaching to understand 3 months into the season is not enough time to determine if he is going to be successful or not, shoot let him recruit the players to fit what he wants to do not have to try and win with inherited players. To build a program it takes time, more time then 3 months. No argument here Mizzou basketball is really bad, but it would have been bad no matter who you brought in.
Have to say it really looks bad when Drop is acting more like a Mizzou fan then you.
I went to mizzou. I've had season tickets since 02. Calling my fandom into question because I don't think Kim Anderson is the right man for mizzou basketball is really dumb.
I've never said Kim Anderson should be fired. I don't believe he will be successful at mizzou, but I recognize he had to be given the chance to succeed or fail.
The point of this thread was for drop (or anyone really) to point to any way Kim Anderson has made mizzou better. Not a single person has done so, which reinforces my point that what he was billed to be (hard nosed defensive coach, X's and O's guru, fundamentally sound coach, the anti-haith) has not proven to be even a little true thus far. In fact, according to ken Pom, we are the 3rd worst P5 team in the country, and most of that has to do with our SOS. If you really believe that Mizzou's roster is that bad, id say that's pretty irrational.
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I've never said Kim Anderson should be fired. I don't believe he will be successful at mizzou, but I recognize he had to be given the chance to succeed or fail.
The point of this thread was for drop (or anyone really) to point to any way Kim Anderson has made mizzou better. Not a single person has done so, which reinforces my point that what he was billed to be (hard nosed defensive coach, X's and O's guru, fundamentally sound coach, the anti-haith) has not proven to be even a little true thus far. In fact, according to ken Pom, we are the 3rd worst P5 team in the country, and most of that has to do with our SOS. If you really believe that Mizzou's roster is that bad, id say that's pretty irrational.
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Way to lower the BAM hammer.
I think Kim Anderson is an upstanding guy and great coach. He was "university" guy at UCM. Never shied away from the fans or the school. I was pulling for him to get the MU job even though I realize the quality of teams he put on the floor for UCM. Everybody knew it was his dream job.
I wish Mizzou nothing but the best under Anderson.
Anybody who wants to throw out the baby with the bath water just three months into a long process should be questioned for their insanity and loyalty to a program. You want to be a fan get behind them and cheer them on. Now if in 3-4 years there is no improvement shoot yes you have to begin to wonder if it was the correct hire. I might even question it next year if we are this bad.
Not saying the roster is bad, just saying it is not kids he recruited to fit his style or coaching. Is Missouri better with KA, right now I would say no, but again this is not his team only time will tell. If in 3-4 years there is no improvement then I would say you are right. But to ask that question now in 3-4 months is crazy and again I have to question you intentions.
I think you already knew the answer to that question, but to pose that question in the first year is crazy...you have an agenda plain and simple.
Not saying the roster is bad, just saying it is not kids he recruited to fit his style or coaching. Is Missouri better with KA, right now I would say no, but again this is not his team only time will tell. If in 3-4 years there is no improvement then I would say you are right. But to ask that question now in 3-4 months is crazy and again I have to question you intentions.
I think you already knew the answer to that question, but to pose that question in the first year is crazy...you have an agenda plain and simple.
As I have said before, and will say again, Kim will have the team playing competitive basketball once he gets his recruiting in and builds the style of team he likes. He had GREAT teams at UCM and I got to watch several of them. He needs time for this whole project to work out.
Specifically?
Playing rosburg and inordinate amount of time at the beginning of the year.
Not letting cam B transfer from ND to mizzou for no apparent reason.
Rotations are mind boggling at times.
Struggling mightily at the defensive end even though most of the teams Mizzou plays are not more athletic.
Bullit, I don't get your "baby with the bath water comment." I specifically said that I think Kim should be given a chance to sink or swim and not be fired this season. Made you can clear up what you meant. Also, I watch almost ever game this team has played. I've missed 2 thus far. I hope like hell they win every game. So, respectfully, when you say I should get behind this team and root them on as if I'm not already doing so, you don't have a clue what you're talking about.
And perhaps cards or anyone could explain what my "agenda" is. I don't know Kim Anderson. I'm sure he's the most wonderful guy in the world. That has very little relevance as to whether he is doing a good job with the basketball team and whether he should be Mizzou's basketball coach. My agenda is I want mizzou to have the best basketball program it can. What would my ulterior motives be?
I keep harping on this but no one seems to understand this point: I don't care that mizzou is bad this year. What I care about is that Kim Anderson has not made this team one sliver better than they were at the beginning of the year. The stats back that up.
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Playing rosburg and inordinate amount of time at the beginning of the year.
Not letting cam B transfer from ND to mizzou for no apparent reason.
Rotations are mind boggling at times.
Struggling mightily at the defensive end even though most of the teams Mizzou plays are not more athletic.
Bullit, I don't get your "baby with the bath water comment." I specifically said that I think Kim should be given a chance to sink or swim and not be fired this season. Made you can clear up what you meant. Also, I watch almost ever game this team has played. I've missed 2 thus far. I hope like hell they win every game. So, respectfully, when you say I should get behind this team and root them on as if I'm not already doing so, you don't have a clue what you're talking about.
And perhaps cards or anyone could explain what my "agenda" is. I don't know Kim Anderson. I'm sure he's the most wonderful guy in the world. That has very little relevance as to whether he is doing a good job with the basketball team and whether he should be Mizzou's basketball coach. My agenda is I want mizzou to have the best basketball program it can. What would my ulterior motives be?
I keep harping on this but no one seems to understand this point: I don't care that mizzou is bad this year. What I care about is that Kim Anderson has not made this team one sliver better than they were at the beginning of the year. The stats back that up.
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Why don't you go spew your venom on Power Mizzou.com, You are outnumbered here in the support for Coach Anderson. So shut the he!! up.
Is that support you are talking about anything like the support Mt Vernon showed some of it's football coaches or Brock? I mean maybe that is the difference in what I call support and what you call support?
Lol dude, I haven't lived in Mt. Vernon since August of 09, not that your comment has anything to do with the topic at hand.
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