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“Bringing it up over and over on a message board isn’t changing any minds and your target audience isn’t here.”

You are correct and really telling someone this???

I don’t get it. Expand upon this, because it makes no sense as is.
 
I don’t get it. Expand upon this, because it makes no sense as is.
I had brought up the unborn life once before this. You on the other hand post the same things over and over (over 23k) on a message board and you are not going to change anyone’s mind either.
 
I had brought up the unborn life once before this. You on the other hand post the same things over and over (over 23k) on a message board and you are not going to change anyone’s mind either.

Ok. But my role is to inform and punish. Not persuade.

The only reason to keep bringing up abortion is to stop abortion. I’m not getting one. VB isn’t getting one. Kaski isn’t getting one. Sad isnt getting one. NM isn’t getting one. The list goes on and on.
 
Ok. But my role is to inform and punish. Not persuade.

The only reason to keep bringing up abortion is to stop abortion. I’m not getting one. VB isn’t getting one. Kaski isn’t getting one. Sad isnt getting one. NM isn’t getting one. The list goes on and on.

Nah, that's not the only reason. The reason is because you people vote for people who are in favor of abortion on demand.

You help facilitate the murder of millions.
 
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Ok. But my role is to inform and punish. Not persuade.

The only reason to keep bringing up abortion is to stop abortion. I’m not getting one. VB isn’t getting one. Kaski isn’t getting one. Sad isnt getting one. NM isn’t getting one. The list goes on and on.
Well the good news is abortion numbers keep decreasing but there are still plenty being done. Estimate 620,000 a year in the US.
Wuhan virus is at 8,000 so far.
Duck you should be happy your mom was against abortion.
 
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Ok. But my role is to inform and punish. Not persuade.

The only reason to keep bringing up abortion is to stop abortion. I’m not getting one. VB isn’t getting one. Kaski isn’t getting one. Sad isnt getting one. NM isn’t getting one. The list goes on and on.
Ok. But my role is to inform and punish. Not persuade.

The only reason to keep bringing up abortion is to stop abortion. I’m not getting one. VB isn’t getting one. Kaski isn’t getting one. Sad isnt getting one. NM isn’t getting one. The list goes on and on.
LoL. “The Punisher —Sock Puppet Zone”

Duck Castle...
 
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Well the good news is abortion numbers keep decreasing but there are still plenty being done. Estimate 620,000 a year in the US.
Wuhan virus is at 8,000 so far.
Duck you should be happy your mom was against abortion.

Well I would have had to grab the clothes hanger and save myself if repubs were in charge.
 
How about having the majority and doing nothing with the ACA and the big beautiful wall, or infrastructure.
 
How about having the majority and doing nothing with the ACA and the big beautiful wall, or infrastructure.

Repubs don’t realize the can of worms that has been opened. When Biden declares climate change a national emergency, he is going to reallocate a huge portion of that defense budget for that purpose. Thanks Donald/big, beautiful wall guy.
 
Repubs don’t realize the can of worms that has been opened. When Biden declares climate change a national emergency, he is going to reallocate a huge portion of that defense budget for that purpose. Thanks Donald/big, beautiful wall guy.
I can't speak for all pubs but if Biden is placed in Oval Office he will be safely watered 3 times a day like a dying plant.

He's an idiot, and indicative of the modern democrat party. He's Obama minus a brain and is ripe for all influence that is the opposite of meaningful.

Nobody can tout the advantages of electing Biden without using Trump in the equation.

If Trump can beat anybody, and this not saying much, he might beat the morons that support Joe Biden.

Hopefully the Republicans will kill the mail in vote and the Republican voter suppression will beat the Democrat rigged elections.

If they don't we deserve whatever America hating Democrat criminals give us.
 
And this is how we thank our "Greatest Generation". They knew what the word "sacrifice" meant.

Don't twist this come on most of that Generations is already gone it's just the reality of the situation, . We can't destroy and saddle future generations with a undo burden.
 
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My mom got pretty sick with the flu when she was in her mid 80s. That was 7 years ago. She turns 93 this summer, still lives by herself, drives all over town, does her own shopping, and has spent time with 6 new great grandchildren since that flu hit.

Devaluing the lives of her generation is just awful. For some, It’s sinful.

Nobody is devaluing her or anyone, but you can't destroy the future either and devalue them either. Sort of odd that you always go to some emotional personal moment to base your judgement on as opposed to hard core reasoning.
 
unborn children are not born. When someone has a miscarriage I am sad as hell for them. When someone intentionally ends a pregnancy, it is none of my business.

I would put more credence in your concern for the unborn if you didn’t vote for people who fight like tigers to deny universal health care for families and food stamps for poor people.
The pro-birth party is absolutely not pro-life.

Those who are born have a responsibility to provide for themselves as oppose to Robbing and Stealing From the Hard work and Labors of us who actually contribute. If they can't afford healthcare, Food etc. that is on them and their Suffering is of their own doing.

I fight like a Panther not to be abused by and stolen from...why are you so for taking my and others money and giving it to those who won't work and provide for themselves?

I have Zero fight in the abortion game but I get it for those that do....a unborn child is innocent....The Poor in American Clearly are just lazy and unwilling to do what it takes to succeed so why give to Rat's about their suffering or plight they have had their chance and they choose to be where they are?
 
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Yes. And I have it. No one in my family has ever gotten an abortion. We don’t believe in getting an abortion. We are against abortion.
But that issue does not dictate who we all vote for. The republicans have used it to get the catholic vote for years now. One, and only one of my sisters has voted republican for years because of that one issue. Guess what. She is so repulsed by Trump, she is voting for Biden.

If this issue is so important to you why don’t you go into counseling in the inner city or pass out the pill or condoms? Maybe go on a speaking tour. Bringing it up over and over on a message board isn’t changing any minds and your target audience isn’t here.

Republicans have had the White House, house, and senate and did nothing.
Why is that? Because they love the hot button wedge issue. They love your vote but they don’t freakin really care.

I do agree the Rep's don't give two craps about Abortion they just use it to get..Votes. Not unlike the Dem's who don't give to craps about the Poor they just hand over money and grift to buy their support, when they know full well you can't get anyone out of poverty by making them dependent on gov. $$ to survive.
 
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Yep. Dims don't seem to realize you could give some people $5000 a month and they're still going to be broke.
 
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Yeah that is one of my sticking points with most conservatives.

It blows my mind that most could be considered conservationists and ant-environment simultaneously.
 
Repubs don’t realize the can of worms that has been opened. When Biden declares climate change a national emergency, he is going to reallocate a huge portion of that defense budget for that purpose. Thanks Donald/big, beautiful wall guy.
Biden will declare needing to give a 2 minute interview a National Emergency...
 
Those who are born have a responsibility to provide for themselves as oppose to Robbing and Stealing From the Hard work and Labors of us who actually contribute. If they can't afford healthcare, Food etc. that is on them and their Suffering is of their own doing.

I fight like a Panther not to be abused by and stolen from...why are you so for taking my and others money and giving it to those who won't work and provide for themselves?

I have Zero fight in the abortion game but I get it for those that do....a unborn child is innocent....The Poor in American Clearly are just lazy and unwilling to do what it takes to succeed so why give to Rat's about their suffering or plight they have had their chance and they choose to be where they are?[/QUOTE

Yeah, MGHS, those 15 million children living in poverty in US (1 in 5) are choosing to be poor so why give a Rat's about their suffering or plight!!
 
Yeah, MGHS, those 15 million children living in poverty in US (1 in 5) are choosing to be poor so why give a Rat's about their suffering or plight!!

It's almost like people shouldn't have kids out of wedlock, shouldn't make babies with people they barely know, shouldn't be so cavalier with their sexual practices.

Pregnancy doesn't just happen. In well over 95% of cases, someone is making a decision to have sex. They make a choice, choices have consequences, intended or unintended.

Who is responsible for your choices? Me or you?

If you're too poor to have a kid, don't have one. It's really not that hard. My entire group of friends that I'm still in contact with from high school all managed to not have any kids until they were married, they've also somehow managed to no have more kids than they can afford. Why is that? Oh right, because we realize we're responsible for our actions.

Don't want your children to live in poverty? That's an easy fix.

Also, those "poor" kids are still preferable to dead kids...you know, unless you're a Democrat.
 
shoulda, coulda, woulda doesn't help 15 million underfed children.

repubs held both chambers of congress and white house several years since roe v wade and did nothing, but somehow that's dems fault. I don't hear trumpy or any repub candidate campaigning on overturning roe v wade. Why??? VOTES of course. Much easier to blame dems than look at your own party!!
 
shoulda, coulda, woulda doesn't help 15 million underfed children.

repubs held both chambers of congress and white house several years since roe v wade and did nothing, but somehow that's dems fault. I don't hear trumpy or any repub candidate campaigning on overturning roe v wade. Why??? VOTES of course. Much easier to blame dems than look at your own party!!

Exactly. They don't talk about it for 18 months, then its election time and Dems are all baby killers. Disgusting.
 
shoulda, coulda, woulda doesn't help 15 million underfed children.

repubs held both chambers of congress and white house several years since roe v wade and did nothing, but somehow that's dems fault. I don't hear trumpy or any repub candidate campaigning on overturning roe v wade. Why??? VOTES of course. Much easier to blame dems than look at your own party!!

What part of, "It's not an issue that can be fixed at the Congressional or Executive level" don't you people understand? That's a fairytale libs tell to try to shut down a conversation.

In order to overturn Roe v. Wade you would need a Supreme Court ruling that supercedes or flatly overturns the previous ruling.

Elected officials in Red states are producing plenty of legislation that could result in Roe v. Wade being revisited if not overturned. That's why state and local elections are so important.

Meanwhile, blue states continue pushing for abortion on demand.

As for Trump overturning Roe v. Wade...what do you think appointing conservative Supreme Court Justices will potentially accomplish?
 
Then do it and quit playing blame game.

Do what exactly?

Sit and wait until legislation hits the SC? That's what we're doing, that's all we can do.

From a blame perspective, we can blame liberal policymakers for abortion on demand and the deaths of millions of babies. We can also blame anyone who puts those people in power.

Hopefully Trump will get to appoint (at least) two more Supreme Court Justices and Roe v. Wade will be overturned in my lifetime.
 
Do what exactly?

Sit and wait until legislation hits the SC? That's what we're doing, that's all we can do.

From a blame perspective, we can blame liberal policymakers for abortion on demand and the deaths of millions of babies. We can also blame anyone who puts those people in power.

Hopefully Trump will get to appoint (at least) two more Supreme Court Justices and Roe v. Wade will be overturned in my lifetime.

It won't stop abortion. It will only stop safe abortion.
Congrats.
 
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It won't stop abortion. It will only stop safe abortion.
Congrats.

It will stop state sponsored abortion.

It will stop the state sponsored killing of millions of babies.

I'm not the one who should be ashamed for who I support on this issue.
 
If it’s okay for the state to determine life or death of a child then what’s stopping them from doing it to the elderly?

what “child”? What’s his name? Oh wait the SC said he isn’t a person.
 
what “child”? What’s his name? Oh wait the SC said he isn’t a person.

It's a human being in a stage of human development, same as an elderly person. Just humans at different stages of the life cycle.

What are the penalties for killing another human being?
 
Bahahahahaha. I hope the SC decides this thing one way or the other and then says it is decided and we will never hear another case on this topic again.
 
Bahahahahaha. I hope the SC decides this thing one way or the other and then says it is decided and we will never hear another case on this topic again.

That won't happen. If it's overturned, blue states and their morally bankrupt leaders will still want to kill babies....because who needs to take personal responsibility for their actions...it'll be an issue in perpetuity.
 
That won't happen. If it's overturned, blue states and their morally bankrupt leaders will still want to kill babies....because who needs to take personal responsibility for their actions.

you guys always use the personal responsibility thing and then I give you 30 examples of repubs letting corporate America get away with not taking responsibility for their actions. But I’m not doing it any more. You win. Go fight win, Trump! Go Supreme Court! Go polluters! Drill that oil at whatever national monument you want! De-regulate until the cows come home! No more protections!!!! Operation warp speed!! We love Ivanka and the 15 million jobs she created!! Hydroxochloriquine and Drano for all!!!! Cut SS. Cut Medicare! Destroy the ACA! Eliminate food stamps! Home schooling all the way!!! G.O.P! G.O.P! G.O.P!
 
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