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Neutron Monster said:
Sanders, et al have no shot against her in the primary under the current set of conditions...there's no reason for to make them a primary focus

http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/...-and-new-hampshire-then-lose-everywhere-else/ this is the sort of thing that gets at my point - unless something happens to damage her lock on the minority vote, no one else has a chance
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Has our country and it's citizens really fallen so far, that this detestable woman is going to be the democratic candidate? It is hard to believe so many cannot see her for what she is.
 
A candidate who represents the mainstream of the D party?

A candidate attempting to inherit the mantle of the most successful President of the last 40-50 years?
 
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Neutron Monster said:
I think they have a real chance to do so if they nominate one of the better candidates.
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Actually was listening to MSNBC this morning and she was trailing the top three republican candidates in Iowa, Virginia, and Colorado I believe. They were trying to come up with some reason for it and finally came up with "She Doesnt Wear Well" whatever that means.
 
Stevedangos said:
Actually was listening to MSNBC this morning and she was trailing the top three republican candidates in Iowa, Virginia, and Colorado I believe. They were trying to come up with some reason for it and finally came up with "She Doesnt Wear Well" whatever that means.
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I saw that as well.

It's a long way to the election, and those aren't the only states that matter. It's way too early to say the Ds or the Rs are going to win. It's not too early to say that there are some candidates who would really hamstring their party (sanders, trump, and Cruz come to mind)
 
Neutron Monster said:
Reagan was not as good a president as Clinton. He screwed the budget.
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he screwed everything.
Amnesty led us to all the illegals
Cut and run from Beirut gave terrorists resolve.
Sold illegal arms to Iran and lied about it
Invented obamaphones
Ignored atrocities by Saddam
Supplied both sides in Iran-iraq war
Supported Contras..who overthrew a DEMOCRATICALLY elected government.
Didn't beat Saddam down after they fired on and killed 37 sailors in 1987. Coward.
Helped Create AQ
Supported racist apartheid in South Africa
Supported Brutal dictators( Noriega, Hussein, Marcos,El Salvador)
Most corrupt admin in history until shrub
Lied all the time- even after getting busted (Nazi camps, Welfare queen, trees make pollution) Amazing how stupid people believed him.
Record deficits
Put Millions out of work..ue went from 7 to 10 %
His policies killed family farms. Grats big corps!
His policies caused saving and loans to fold. Woops.
HE ROBBED SS TO PAY FOR BUDGET SHORTFALL
Ignored AIDS

He was likely one of the worst presidents in history. Too bad they backed off on Iran contra. He shoulda rotted in jail.
 
Hillary's unfavorable numbers are not good at this point in many key states. I'm talking general election.
 
Veer2Eternity said:
he screwed everything.
Amnesty led us to all the illegals
Cut and run from Beirut gave terrorists resolve.
Sold illegal arms to Iran and lied about it
Invented obamaphones
Ignored atrocities by Saddam
Supplied both sides in Iran-iraq war
Supported Contras..who overthrew a DEMOCRATICALLY elected government.
Didn't beat Saddam down after they fired on and killed 37 sailors in 1987. Coward.
Helped Create AQ
Supported racist apartheid in South Africa
Supported Brutal dictators( Noriega, Hussein, Marcos,El Salvador)
Most corrupt admin in history until shrub
Lied all the time- even after getting busted (Nazi camps, Welfare queen, trees make pollution) Amazing how stupid people believed him.
Record deficits
Put Millions out of work..ue went from 7 to 10 %
His policies killed family farms. Grats big corps!
His policies caused saving and loans to fold. Woops.
HE ROBBED SS TO PAY FOR BUDGET SHORTFALL
Ignored AIDS

He was likely one of the worst presidents in history. Too bad they backed off on Iran contra. He shoulda rotted in jail.
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Numerous polls have Reagan as one of the best presidents in U.S. history.

Veer says he is one of the worst.

Gosh,..........who to believe :rolleyes:
 
ag-man said:
Numerous polls have Reagan as one of the best presidents in U.S. history.

Veer says he is one of the worst.

Gosh,..........who to believe :rolleyes:
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Believe the facts that I posted or refute them.

ANY President that did those things is horrible.

Just because he gave a good speech and told you what you wanted to hear doesn't make him a leader.

Style over substance. That's the GOP's problem.
 
Veer2Eternity said:
Believe the facts that I posted or refute them.

ANY President that did those things is horrible.

Just because he gave a good speech and told you what you wanted to hear doesn't make him a leader.

Style over substance. That's the GOP's problem.
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Come on ag-man get the cow poop off your boots and answer him.
 
Wildcat98 said:
Come on ag-man get the cow poop off your boots and answer him.
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He named 20 things he disagreed with, so what.

I could name 40 things I think Obama sucked at, big deal.

Not worth my time. Veer might ought to worry about the loser we have in the White House NOW, or the one that wants to be there, verses someone 30 years ago.

Sanders would be such an improvement.
 
ag-man said:
He named 20 things he disagreed with, so what.

I could name 40 things I think Obama sucked at, big deal.

Not worth my time. Veer might ought to worry about the loser we have in the White House NOW, or the one that wants to be there, verses someone 30 years ago.

Sanders would be such an improvement.
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Which of those on Reagan's list of shame would you AGREE with? This should be good.

And go ahead and put together a list of the same type of shameful acts from Obama.

Please recall 37 sailors killed . By IRAN...no nothing from the WH in 1987. If that happened today...imagine the wailing , gnashing of teeth and hair pulling!! Fauxnews would be melting down!!!

Along with all the shrubscouts.
 
Veer2Eternity said:
Which of those on Reagan's list of shame would you AGREE with? This should be good.

And go ahead and put together a list of the same type of shameful acts from Obama.

Please recall 37 sailors killed . By IRAN...no nothing from the WH in 1987. If that happened today...imagine the wailing , gnashing of teeth and hair pulling!! Fauxnews would be melting down!!!

Along with all the shrubscouts.
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Is this the same Iran that Kerry and Obama just peed down their leg in fear over.

Versus Reagan bringing down Russia, and the Berlin Wall? You make me laugh.
 
ag-man said:
Is this the same Iran that Kerry and Obama just peed down their leg in fear over.

Versus Reagan bringing down Russia, and the Berlin Wall? You make me laugh.
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Are you really that dense? Peed down their leg? Did the rest of the world do the same thing? This deal made the best of a bad situation . Any non-neocon source will say the same thing.

Sheesh rambo maybe you should pack up your red rider and head over there and straighten things out.

Now..please don't get this off on a tangent. You stated something along the lines that Reagan was the best president. I presented piles of evidence likewise and asked you if you liked those FACTS.

And you come up with this? That's as bad as the meth question. Just say you're wrong and move on.

Reagan was HORRIBLE by deed. He's what the GOP loves...talks a big game but folds when it's on the line. Those things I posted are all facts. ANY president that was leader over that train wreck deserved to be in jail not discussed as one of the best ever. Look at that list and you can trace every problem we have today to Reagan's policy.

If Obama or Clinton did those things how would you react?

See what I mean?


Now...let's have the list for obama. Should be good.
 
Veer2Eternity said:
Are you really that dense? Peed down their leg? Did the rest of the world do the same thing? This deal made the best of a bad situation . Any non-neocon source will say the same thing.

Sheesh rambo maybe you should pack up your red rider and head over there and straighten things out.

Now..please don't get this off on a tangent. You stated something along the lines that Reagan was the best president. I presented piles of evidence likewise and asked you if you liked those FACTS.

And you come up with this? That's as bad as the meth question. Just say you're wrong and move on.

Reagan was HORRIBLE by deed. He's what the GOP loves...talks a big game but folds when it's on the line. Those things I posted are all facts. ANY president that was leader over that train wreck deserved to be in jail not discussed as one of the best ever. Look at that list and you can trace every problem we have today to Reagan's policy.

If Obama or Clinton did those things how would you react?

See what I mean?


Now...let's have the list for obama. Should be good.
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Just say I'm wrong about what and move on?

I stated the fact that Reagan is regarded as one of the best presidents in U.S. history by numerous polls. That is fact.

YOU are the one that said he was terrible and listed lots of reasons why you think so. Big deal.

And no, I'm not compiling a list of embarrassing and shameful things Obama has done the last 6 years. There isn't enough hours in the day.
 
Veer2Eternity said:
Are you really that dense? Peed down their leg? Did the rest of the world do the same thing? This deal made the best of a bad situation . Any non-neocon source will say the same thing.

Sheesh rambo maybe you should pack up your red rider and head over there and straighten things out.

Now..please don't get this off on a tangent. You stated something along the lines that Reagan was the best president. I presented piles of evidence likewise and asked you if you liked those FACTS.

And you come up with this? That's as bad as the meth question. Just say you're wrong and move on.

Reagan was HORRIBLE by deed. He's what the GOP loves...talks a big game but folds when it's on the line. Those things I posted are all facts. ANY president that was leader over that train wreck deserved to be in jail not discussed as one of the best ever. Look at that list and you can trace every problem we have today to Reagan's policy.

If Obama or Clinton did those things how would you react?

See what I mean?


Now...let's have the list for obama. Should be good.
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Secondly,

If we can trace every problem we have today to Reagan's policy, why are you always blaming Bush for all that is wrong? :)
 
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ag-man said:
Secondly,

If we can trace every problem we have today to Reagan's policy, why are you always blaming Bush for all that is wrong? :)
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Because bush was ran by Reagan-ites? Are you even cognizant of who ran the WH during the shrub year? What were they doing during the reagan era? Wake up.

Please list out things Obama has done that equals what's on Reagan's list. You can't.
 
Wildcat98 said:
You like to bob and weave. Grow a set and supply Veer with a list or shut the heck up.
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Veer chose to utilize his time and energy compiling a list of things he finds bad about a president 30 years ago.

I fail to see how this compels me to also waste my time and energy making a list of the current president.

I certainly, along with most of the populace, could make a list of Obama's missteps, scandal's and lies. I choose not to.
 
Because you said you could make a list of 40 things. When asked to back up your words, (to paraphrase you) You peed down your leg in the fear of Veer calling you out on your own words.
ag-man said:
Veer chose to utilize his time and energy compiling a list of things he finds bad about a president 30 years ago.

I fail to see how this compels me to also waste my time and energy making a list of the current president.

I certainly, along with most of the populace, could make a list of Obama's missteps, scandal's and lies. I choose not to.
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Expect2Win said:
Because you said you could make a list of 40 things. When asked to back up your words, (to paraphrase you) You peed down your leg in the fear of Veer calling you out on your own words.
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You guys crack me up. Do you really think I can't make a list of 40 things I don't like about Obama?

I said I could, and I can, just don't want to waste the time.
 
ag-man said:
Numerous polls have Reagan as one of the best presidents in U.S. history.

Veer says he is one of the worst.

Gosh,..........who to believe :rolleyes:
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One of the great pleasures I get from this site is seeing folks like Veer and Duck take hours of their time to explain the World according to them...

Yet no one cares...:(

Now that's funny Conservatives :D
 
Lol. Posting from the sticks and not getting a good signal . Couldn't tell if it posted the first time.
 
Scout 4u said:
One of the great pleasures I get from this site is seeing folks like Veer and Duck take hours of their time to explain the World according to them...

Yet no one cares...:(

Now that's funny Conservatives :D
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You know Scout. Things have gone fine without you on this board. Go back to wherever you were because you are not clever or funny and you offer nothing.
 
ag-man said:
You guys crack me up. Do you really think I can't make a list of 40 things I don't like about Obama?

I said I could, and I can, just don't want to waste the time.
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Bob and weave. Now you're saying 40 things you don't like about President Obama.

You said, "He named 20 things he disagreed with, so what.

I could name 40 things I think Obama sucked at, big deal."

I could name 40 things I don't like about you, but not 40 things you suck at. Big difference.
 
I could name 40 things that make Obama the best Pres. ever but I'm not going to waste my time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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