Helias vs West Plains
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It was a good 6 year run between Jeff City and Hannibal. Good luck to Jeff City to whoever they find to replace Hannibal. Where would of went if Hannibal didn’t have the best D1 All purpose back in Missouri, But it’s time for Hannibal to find a better competitive opponent. Hannibal hasn’t proven me yet that they’re a championship contender. Hannibal need go out and schedule some top tier late Playoff teams. Hannibal plays in one of the weakest conferences in the state year in and out. Moberly have had good years and same with Mexico but they never got past Hannibal. I have heard rumors that Hannibal has a destination for joining another conference in the next 5 years but I have to keep my mouth shut on it
Did you forget Mexico bearing Hannibal by 2 TDs in 2017?
And what about their win over Hannibal in districts in 2014?
Or how bout in 2017 when moberly beat Hannibal in the regular season & then turboed them in districts?
Moberly also bested the Pirates by 3 TDs in the regular season in 2013?
Just making the point that saying they’ve never “got past Hannibal” is definitely not true.
And that’s just in the last decade, I’m sure if a deeper dive was done, there would be more instances.
Osage is class 4 in fact they are in the same district as Jeff City and Moberly was class 4 last year when Jeff City scheduled them for two year contract
Osage was Class 3 when they were scheduled. And are the smallest Class 4 and JC is the biggest…and would be class 5 if they reported their enrollment correctly from what I have heard
Yeah, they are basically playing the east side of jefferson city mo only. Before 2018, Hannibal hadn't beat Jeff City since 1954
Is Jeff City supposed to play class 4 teams with identical enrollment numbers? That's not how it works. Helias has half the enrollment number of Jeff City, which is the smallest public school in the CMAC and Helias has won four conference titles
Capital City senior class graduated around 340 students and JC graduated around 290 students this past school year so it's not yet evenly divided so I wouldn't pay too much attention to "what you heard"
You realize Jeff City have two public high schools now, right? Hannibal got smashed by Helias which is a just little more than half of Jeff City size.
several schools around the state are doing well against opponents more than twice their size and I am not just talking about privates either. Good well established programs that are disciplined and coached well are making of easy works of some opponents that are 2, 3, 4, even 10 times their size.
Are you honestly comparing Helias to Moberly, Osage and Sullivan? Since when has Moberly, Osage or Sullivan ever consistently been on Helias' level, and I mean remotely close, in every sport. Helias' is a private school with a bunch of tradition and has mostly put a good product out in every sport every year. So you really think just anybody can go there? Their football program has over a 100 kids for a reason, sometimes 120-130. People send their kids there on purpose, to get a really education and win in sports. For as long as I can remember they have competed against larger schools and have always done well. Moberly, Osage and Sullivan are flat out not the same. If you're from this area, you should know this.
You said what you wanted to earlier by stating Jeff City needs to "pad" their record so it looks good to those who don't know anything other than the record they see. All this creates is a false sense of security, which does Jeff City no good in the end.
To me you should play as many good teams as you can all season (conference dregs no choice) and your record doesn’t matter. If you don’t finish first in district so what you still get to suit up. If you’re good enough you will win it without home field advantage.
Just commented cuz you said Moberly was Class 4 when they scheduled them. I just don’t think it makes any sense to drop a school that is your classification because you haven’t beaten them in awhile. It’s a good measuring stick game early in the year. I’m just not a fan of dodging good teams. Osage dropped an easy win in Fulton to schedule JC the last 2 years probably cuz they wanted to see how they played against a better opponent. And I would argue it has helped them. Just my opinion and you’re entitled to yours
MSHSSA enrollment has CC with 11 more students than JC. I know that’s only 3 grades but if they didn’t report the kids at JCAC and CC did, then they would probably jump CC and actually would’ve been Class 5 and CC in class 4.
Everything is the same except WP taking CR spot and I heard Vianney is dropping us. Not for sure who we picked up for the last game of the season in Vianney's spot.
They went to playing a good class 4 team (losing their top player) to a not so good class 4 team?
Osage is actually in districts with JC and so is Fulton.. That is mind boggling. Moberly is usually class 4 but dropped to class 3 this year.
When Jeff City was a powerhouse, they had problems scheduling games so the often traveled to Arkansas to play teams. Let Hannibal go play Illinois or Iowa schools
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Looks like the West Plains vs Helias series is a no go now. On the MSHSAA website it is now showing St. Mary's. So who knows?
WHOA HOOOOOO!!! Bosko likey!!! Also, NEVER watch her TV show.Looks like the West Plains vs Helias series is a no go now. On the MSHSAA website it is now showing St. Mary's. So who knows?
Anyone have a list of who JC played during the 50 year homecoming undefeated streak?? That's an impressive streak
I’m pretty sure there played some smaller schools during that streak. Marshall and Mexico maybe. I’d be curious to know.I can tell you it was not Osage or Sullivan
I’m pretty sure JC head coaches are in control of their schedules. I know in many other sports they are challenging themselves playing quality teams and larger classification schools. The pressure to win in football I am sure is immense, so finding wins is the goal.
I would hope the JC coach has control over his schedule since he is the AD.
Well if the new
I guess the new OMC changed that, there won't be an opening for West Plains if all this goes thru.Looks like the West Plains vs Helias series is a no go now. On the MSHSAA website it is now showing St. Mary's. So who knows?
That is what I was thinking after reading the other thread.
Well I ran into that one didn’t I?😂 I meant all sport coaches…lolI would hope the JC coach has control over his schedule since he is the AD.
So what is Helias and Jay fans thoughts of adding Camdenton, Lebanon, Rolla and Waynesville to the CMAC?
It is rare that I read a post on this forum from someone who is so uninformed as you are.
Jeff City enrollment is 896 - the smallest school and only Class 4 school in the CMAC. Therefore, they already play 6 games against schools larger than they are - in some cases, 2 classes larger (Rock Bridge & Hickman). The other 3 non-conference games are Hannibal (Class 4), Osage (Class 4) and Moberly (Class 3). So, except for Moberly all JC opponents are the same class or larger, sometimes much larger, than they are.
As for Hannibal, I am not aware they were dropped. If so, it wasn't because they are winning, but it would be due to cost of travel. It makes much more sense to play Camdenton, Lebanon, or Rolla (all Class 5 and all under 75 miles).
Please check your facts before you post. I am shocked that you would post something as uninformed and misguided as you have just done.
