Priory (Class 4 out of STL) has notified Lutheran North (Class 2) that they will not schedule them for at least the next 2 seasons. This is news because they are both members of The Metro League, along with Lutheran South, JBS (both in Class 3), Westminster and MICDS (both in Class 4). Priory feels that they are at "a competitive disadvantage" vs Lutheran North specifically. Interestingly, Priory will continue to play every other team in the conference, including Westminster who beat them this year 63-6. Priory has not won a game vs a conference opponent since 2014 when they went 2-3 in league play.
Forfeits and scheduling changes
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Trinity and Lutheran North are both in District 2. They don't stand to gain much from playing one another during the regular season. Although, they DID used to play one another as recently as 2015 when LN beat Trinity 40-14. Last year's matchup in the District Championship was the first time LN had lost to Trinity since 2009. The matchup could happen again though. If Lamar is available, it'd be cool to see them all go head to head during the same season.
Lamar is not available, their conference expands to 14 teams starting next year. Every regular season game will be a conference game. There will be no "dream" match-up with LN, Webb, Maryville, CJ, etc....
I don't know much about the St. Louis area football environment but it seem Trinity and Lutheran North may have over played their hands a little. They have both had teams refuse to play them this season and now have teams refusing to play them in the future. Also heard, completely rumor/grapevine talk, that both were reported and investigated for enrollment violations in the off season. True or not it would indicate area communities are not happy with their practices of gather players.
Why does it matter that they are in the same district. Almost every other district in the state is loaded with teams that play both in the regular season and in districts. Some districts are made up of mostly a conference. That is how MSHSAA set it up. It happens in the other sports all the time.
In a densely populated metropolitan area like STL, transfers are common. There are absolutely voices that are displeased that small schools like Lutheran North and Trinity are garnering the attention from colleges and well-publicized scholarship offers for their players ... and that is where those voices find fault. MSHSAA doesn't "investigate" student-athletes eligibility like the NCAA would. EVERY kid is considered to be ineligible for 365 days after transferring schools. The only way immediate eligibility can be granted is if the family presents documentation supporting one of 10 exceptions to the transfer rules.
EVERY school attracts students for specific reasons, and athletic performance is definitely one of them. Transferring to a school solely for athletic reasons ISN'T illegal. The price for doing so is that the student and their family must be willing to sit out a year. It happens all the time. Many of those families request exceptions and are denied, for whatever reason. Many public schools will cry that a student has been "recruited", but families don't have to be sold on what THEY decide they want for their kid. When a family moves from Clayton to Chesterfield, if their kid is in a public school they MUST transfer because Districts have residency requirements. When they move, they are not required to send their kid to a public school. They can CHOOSE a private school, and petition for immediate eligibility. That is where a lot of the bellyaching by jealous fans or coaches begins. Their desire to have specific kids in their programs and being butt hurt that they didn't get them.
Schools that refuse to play teams with kids that transferred in that have either sat out a year or been granted eligibility by MSHSAA are free to schedule as they see fit. There isn't a school in Missouri that would tell a family they can't attend because someone at another school doesn't approve of where they decided to send their kid to school.
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It matters in the same way any team scheduling any other team matters. You have to want to play them either because you feel confident you'll win or because you feel your team will benefit from tough competition, even in a loss. If BOTH teams don't want to play one another ... even in conference play, like with Priory ... then one team will just forfeit. That's exactly what Priory has chosen to do, and there don't appear to be any MSHSAA or Metro League rules to prohibit or regulate it. Trinity stopped scheduling Lutheran North after 2015 because they didn't want to have to play them twice, and they had that choice to do it without having to forfeit because they are in different conferences.
Yep. This is America. You can change jobs, change addresses and change wives, if you want to.
Transfers are automatically ineligible for 365 days. After that period, they can play for whatever school they have transferred to. They don't have to PROVE why they transferred if the family is willing to sit out a year. If they appeal for an exception to the rule, they must provide documentation to prove such to MSHSAA ... and MSHSAA will do everything they possibly can to shoot it full of holes. If you're willing to sit out a year ... just like in college ... you can go wherever you want to. Even if other schools don't like it.
Trinity's tuition is half of that ... approximately $8500 annually. Don't the parents of kids that attend any OTHER private school pay their kids' tuition?
Florida has "Open Transfer Rules". Students can transfer from and to any school they choose, including public schools, provided the school has room and the family can provide transportation for their kid.
Remarkably, Florida has managed to survive the change.
Senior tuition is $11,805 at Trinity for this year. You get a $1,500 discount if you started as freshman and $500 discount if Catholic.
Just saying a majority of regular student body has a much higher household income then some of the athletes that have transfered in.
For the same reason that their "sister school" Lutheran South is "The Lancers". Judeo-Christian World Domination.
Dude. How do you know what anyone else's family's household income is? What you REALLY want to ask is how do all those Black Families pay tuition at a private school when EVERYONE knows that isn't possible without someone White paying for them?
C'mon, Man. Don't be coy. Speak your mind.
You're right. Let's just flood every post with hypothetical debates about which fictional movie high school football player was the greatest.
My bad. Don't want to offend Evangelical Christians publicly.
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Halls Memorial High School of Buckner, Mo. forfeited to Harrisonville in 1923. It counted as a 1-0 win for Harrisonville. Does anyone know if it still goes in the record books like that as a score today?
It still would be. The 13-0 rule came in with the playoff system.
How about having MSHSAA do ALL football scheduling? They would then hand out schedules to their member schools. Iowa does this and there are no open dates to deal with.
Not that Iowa is right or wrong in doing this. I'm merely throwing this out there for debate. Being I am an AD and have to find replacement games for teams that went 8-man or a JV schedule.
Opinions on MSHSAA doing the scheduling?
Not that Iowa is right or wrong in doing this. I'm merely throwing this out there for debate. Being I am an AD and have to find replacement games for teams that went 8-man or a JV schedule.
Opinions on MSHSAA doing the scheduling?
MSHSAA can't even put together a decent media guide at the championship games anymore.
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