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Veer2Eternity

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'sundown' all fed legislation isn't about getting rid of social security and medicare/caid?

If they had any scruples at all they'd just say 'Yeah this is what we want to do and why"

But you're talking about voters that are too dumb to realize the GOP is only about enriching the 1% that nobody posting on message board will ever be.
 
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I just don’t understand why they are so hell bent to eliminate/slash those programs.
Propose a specific plan to either strengthen them or phase them out well into the future.
But stop politicizing everything and start governing.
 
I just don’t understand why they are so hell bent to eliminate/slash those programs.
Propose a specific plan to either strengthen them or phase them out well into the future.
But stop politicizing everything and start governing.
They booed Biden and called him a liar when he said "some" republicans want to do that but as usual there is tape of some of them actually saying just that.
 
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This idea is nothing new and is worth to be looked at.... when almost all the budget 2021 data shows that 77% is locked into mandatory spending on programs that can't be touched you have a problem. In 1965 that number was 34% of the budget. The mandatory spending is Mostly Entitlement programs SS, Medicaid/Medicare etc. 10% is military and the other 13% is other domestic programs. What is mostly voted on is the 13%.....

But of course the go to response of the Left is OH no the Evil GOPer's are gonna take it all away and throw grandma and grandpa on the street and the poor is gonna start starving. Do you really think the GOP is gonna eliminate those programs or try to make them more efficient and viable long term?
 

This idea is nothing new and is worth to be looked at.... when almost all the budget 2021 data shows that 77% is locked into mandatory spending on programs that can't be touched you have a problem. In 1965 that number was 34% of the budget. The mandatory spending is Mostly Entitlement programs SS, Medicaid/Medicare etc. 10% is military and the other 13% is other domestic programs. What is mostly voted on is the 13%.....

But of course the go to response of the Left is OH no the Evil GOPer's are gonna take it all away and throw grandma and grandpa on the street and the poor is gonna start starving. Do you really think the GOP is gonna eliminate those programs or try to make them more efficient and viable long term?
Why don’t they share their specific plan with us to save it then? Because after all this time, after all this hyperbole, after all the doom and gloom they don’t have one.
 
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This idea is nothing new and is worth to be looked at.... when almost all the budget 2021 data shows that 77% is locked into mandatory spending on programs that can't be touched you have a problem. In 1965 that number was 34% of the budget. The mandatory spending is Mostly Entitlement programs SS, Medicaid/Medicare etc. 10% is military and the other 13% is other domestic programs. What is mostly voted on is the 13%.....

But of course the go to response of the Left is OH no the Evil GOPer's are gonna take it all away and throw grandma and grandpa on the street and the poor is gonna start starving. Do you really think the GOP is gonna eliminate those programs or try to make them more efficient and viable long term?
Same link I saw on another board

Thanks mgbot
 
Why don’t they share their specific plan with us to save it then? Because after all this time, after all this hyperbole, after all the doom and gloom they don’t have one.
I doubt they have a plan at this time but I'm sure a bipartisan group could formulate one with some debate. Like a lot of bills that are brought forth.
 
Same link I saw on another board

Thanks mgbot
LOL.... Nothing that complicated it's easier to save NYPOST ,Politico, CNN, Atlantic, WSJ etc. to my favorites List on my computer and Youtube as well and when toots or someone else brings up a subject I can go to those sources and see what has been written.

It's you who appear to troll and frequent other political boards and then in classic leftist fashion project those traits upon others. Strange compulsion
 
Then there is that genius Ron Johnson, who doesn’t want SS and Medicare to be guaranteed benefits. He wants them to be
discretionary funds, subject to review under annual appropriation acts. So they can be held hostage each year and used as bargaining chips.

How’s that for giving senior citizens financial stability.
 
I just don’t understand why they are so hell bent to eliminate/slash those programs.
Propose a specific plan to either strengthen them or phase them out well into the future.
But stop politicizing everything and start governing.
I know what Social Security and Medicare meant to my parents and grandparents. They weren't travelers and only had meager pensions outside of social security and that enabled them to stay in their homes and eat out once in awhile. Nothing fancy. Grandma had a stroke and lived in a nursing home for 10 years and paid her way using SS and the sale of their house....about 15k for the house in SG back then.
And today there are lots of people who are probably in worse shape and only have minimum SS benefits. It is the only fixed income that we have. Working hard and smart paid off for us but if the market crashes it is big cutback time to survive on SS. And that is not to be construed to be a complaint about how much we get from SS.
 
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They realize the folks like mgbot is going to fall lock-step in with whatever they do.

trumplicans dont' vote in their best interests. They vote (and post) how they're told to.
Social Security is not in anyone's best interest as it is. That is why it's in the shape it's in. And yes I Vote on giving myself more of my own money and not sharing with those who don't deserve it or earned it. So how is that not in my best interest?
 
Social Security is not in anyone's best interest as it is. That is why it's in the shape it's in. And yes I Vote on giving myself more of my own money and not sharing with those who don't deserve it or earned it. So how is that not in my best interest?
Did you come from another planet?
 
You Think that a Social Security system that is always in financial trouble is in anyone's best interest?

Why would anyone vote for the Govt to take more tax payer money? It's a wasteful, corrupt entity that has vested interest in the power elites and throws out some scraps to the peasants and serfs?

You clearly have some warped vision the Govt has your best interest at heart.....
 
Social Security is not in anyone's best interest as it is. That is why it's in the shape it's in. And yes I Vote on giving myself more of my own money and not sharing with those who don't deserve it or earned it. So how is that not in my best interest?
Your GOP should run on that platform instead of being liars and trying to make an end run around the elderly.

And no you don't vote in your best interest. You're a poor. The GOP gives you crumbs while for decades setting the rules for the rich.

Nice work.
 
You Think that a Social Security system that is always in financial trouble is in anyone's best interest?

Why would anyone vote for the Govt to take more tax payer money? It's a wasteful, corrupt entity that has vested interest in the power elites and throws out some scraps to the peasants and serfs?

You clearly have some warped vision the Govt has your best interest at heart.....
I'll never draw a dime from SS nor will my wife but I know a lot of folks that do and some that couldn't get by without it. Maybe you forget millions of people have paid into that system their entire adult life, if it fails WE have failed them.
 
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I'll never draw a dime from SS nor will my wife but I know a lot of folks that do and some that couldn't get by without it. Maybe you forget millions of people have paid into that system their entire adult life, if it fails WE have failed them.
And millions of people only have SS to live on. No idea how but somehow they do.
 
Your GOP should run on that platform instead of being liars and trying to make an end run around the elderly.

And no you don't vote in your best interest. You're a poor. The GOP gives you crumbs while for decades setting the rules for the rich.

Nice work.
And you believe the Dem's give to the middle class? They cater to the Rich and Poor and take from the working folks more than the GOP.
 
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I'll never draw a dime from SS nor will my wife but I know a lot of folks that do and some that couldn't get by without it. Maybe you forget millions of people have paid into that system their entire adult life, if it fails WE have failed them.
I don't want to get rid of the system.... just make it more efficient and to actually do what it's suppose to do. Being able to evaluate and adjust it once or twice a decade would be a good start to solving that problem. Throwing out what doesn't work, adding in newer idea's that might or might not work but could then be adjusted in a few years if they are not working.

But nope the Dem's answer is to keep the program static and just take more money from the working class to cover the short falls.


 
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