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Corona: Question for Atheists, Secular Humanists, Skeptics, etc.

More simply, what purpose does highly evolved pond scum have that operates based on chemical reactions in your brain?

If I held to the idea (which I don’t, ducky) that it was good to eat babies, I don’t think you can tell me I’m wrong based on your worldview.
 
So, does life have value? And what is your basis for that judgment? I don’t think you really just said anything or answered my question. With atheism and evolution, you can talk yourself into a purpose, but at the end of the day, that doesn’t mean you actually have one.

Because that is the “straw man” I set up. Knock him down for me.

(I hope you are following me here)
There's a huge implication here that you must be right about religion and that this can be the only purpose ever. That's a myopic world view of purpose. By this logic, why not live in a cave, eat simply, and pray, since all that matters is getting into heaven? There must be some purpose to living a better life in the here and now as well.
 
Confucius version wasn’t the Golden Rule.
You have a very tightly defined version of the Golden Rule, one that is specifically designed to elide the idea that Christianity didn't exactly find terra nova on most of its core ideas.
 
More simply, what purpose does highly evolved pond scum have that operates based on chemical reactions in your brain?

If I held to the idea (which I don’t, ducky) that it was good to eat babies, I don’t think you can tell me I’m wrong based on your worldview.
You could form a very different human civilization with very different ideas. We have had them in the past on items which would be shockingly taboo to us today. It worked out fine at the time for many societies.

I think there's an awful lot of good that came out of the mainline Protestant denominations of Northern Europe in terms of social development that created societies with the most social welfare we've ever seen, but that's not to say you couldn't have sustainable societies with vastly different ideas on things like child raising or education.

Baby eating is a bit of an absurd example given the time and effort it takes to have a baby (tough to have a sustainable society if you're eating the offspring of an animal with our slow reproduction rates and historically high fetal, infant, and maternal mortality) plus the visceral human reaction to eating something you just created. But it does remind us that things we perceive as horrific could be perceived very differently if we'd had decades of different social conditioning. You might feel the same way about eating cows if you'd been taught from birth that their life is sacred.
 
There's a huge implication here that you must be right about religion and that this can be the only purpose ever. That's a myopic world view of purpose. By this logic, why not live in a cave, eat simply, and pray, since all that matters is getting into heaven? There must be some purpose to living a better life in the here and now as well.

LONG POST WARNING!!!!

You are proving my point. And it’s this:

You don’t believe your own prescribed worldview. Or you at least don’t live in congruence with it.

An academically honest approach to your worldview is everything is meaningless. And of the same value as bacteria. And of the same purpose, which is nothing. Here today, gone tomorrow, nothing matters.

Here is what you are advocating for in your posts:
1. Individuals have value and dignity (I agree).
2. There is good and evil... and there should be laws that are objective for everyone (I agree)
3. There is meaning and purpose to this life (I agree)

But...naturalism based on evolution leaves you with:
1. No inherent value
2. No morality whatsoever (do whatever you want, because it doesn’t matter).. and everyone’s right in what they believe.
3. There is no meaning/purpose. You are a cosmic accident. Who knows what will happen next. And you can be sure it’s not a part of a larger plan.
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If you sit in the non-theist camp (lots of things under that banner) you have to say Covid is fine. It’s just evolution working itself out. Cells attacking cells, nature running its course, and the fittest will survive. You can’t say it’s bad and be consistent with your worldview.

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This will likely irritate you, because I’m going to say some things I believe your heart knows to be true, but you would likely even be mad for me saying as you disagree so much.

1. You and I are made in the image of God. That’s what gives us value and makes us value others.
2. We have been given a conscience that convicts us of evil. We know we are broken and sinful.
3. Eternity and afterlife has been written on our hearts. We know there’s more to life than this, and we have purpose.
4. (Most offensive, but I believe to be true).. you know God exists, but you suppress or hate the truth.
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Atheists cannot make any valid morality claims because it hasn’t no objective foundation. It only has personal perception, and in their worldview... their brain fizzing. What they believe to be good or bad will change eventually so they can’t even be sure they are right.

Yet, they make absolute assertions, cry out about injustice, and try to enact moral judgment on others, even subject that onto other people who might have different brain fizz.

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In summation, the naturalist worldview is largely unpracticed by its adherents, because it’s bogus.

(I’m not in this camp and I realize this is pretty blunt/raw) Why shouldn’t I eat babies? You can’t tell me it’s wrong (and be correct) Why shouldn’t I rape children if it feels good to me? You can’t. Morality isn’t a up to a vote.... God has set his standards. We have broken them and made up our own.
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I mean no disrespect or condescension. I only desire to show you that your worldview has major major problems. The only judgments you can make borrow from my worldview.

Sorry if this infuriates you. That is not my point.
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Tomorrow is why I share this with you. Resurrection Sunday. You can be made right and whole. You can be cleansed. You can know God through his Son. You can have peace!

Knowing Jesus isn’t about living in a cave, but instead sharing Him with the whole world. It isn’t about doing a bunch of rituals and following rules... it’s about God changing your heart and making you his forever.

He died for you. Paid your penalty. Rose from the dead. And offers you the abundant life. No, Not Joel Osteen abundance, but real life. Eternal life.

I care about you enough to tell you and whoever is reading this that. Be happy to discuss this more with anyone. Happy Easter everyone! He is Risen!
 
You have a very tightly defined version of the Golden Rule, one that is specifically designed to elide the idea that Christianity didn't exactly find terra nova on most of its core ideas.
I don’t but it his version was different enough that they called it the silver rule. My point is if you are an American your definition of the Golden rule is Christian based. Even if your not a Christian.
 
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