Conservatives...I give up.

[Gubba Bump Shrimp]

Been trying to fight the good fight, but there are too many of you and the only "liberal" posters who ever actually post are me and vbsideout.

I've enjoyed this board and several of you, but I'm out. The idiocy of Scout, FistOH, Chief Justice, miller, and WCS's moronic return, coupled with the reality of the Trump administration have worn me out.

Taking some needed time away from this board.

Conservative posters, enjoy sitting around agreeing with each other, if that sounds fun to you, you can have it.

 

[vbsideout]

Been trying to fight the good fight, but there are too many of you and the only "liberal" posters who ever actually post are me and vbsideout.

I've enjoyed this board and several of you, but I'm out. The idiocy of Scout, FistOH, Chief Justice, miller, and WCS's moronic return, coupled with the reality of the Trump administration have worn me out.

Taking some needed time away from this board.

Conservative posters, enjoy sitting around agreeing with each other, if that sounds fun to you, you can have it.

Hate to see you go Gubba Ignore is a great button. Use it and see if that doesn't help.

 

[vbsideout]

I just wish I had a pair of Birkenstocks and a passport to usher you along to Canada.

Calm down rmeat

 

[FistOH]

Good ridden you old nasty troll! I'm not going to miss your non-sequitur arguments, predictable and boring opinions, constant trolling microaggressions. I thought you'd never die. Ding dong the witch is dead!

 

[Chief Justice]

Later.... you race baiting Anti-Christian, Anti-American, Gun Grabbing, serial lying malcontent.

 

[vbsideout]

Later.... you race baiting Anti-Christian, Anti-American, Gun Grabbing, serial lying malcontent.

Great response

 

[Scout 4u]

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[Scout 4u]

Been trying to fight the good fight, but there are too many of you and the only "liberal" posters who ever actually post are me and vbsideout.

I've enjoyed this board and several of you, but I'm out. The idiocy of Scout, FistOH, Chief Justice, miller, and WCS's moronic return, coupled with the reality of the Trump administration have worn me out.

Taking some needed time away from this board.

Conservative posters, enjoy sitting around agreeing with each other, if that sounds fun to you, you can have it.

Great, your back already.

 

[bigolestorm]

Only hope in his spare time he trips down the stairs and knocks an ounce of sense into the head!

 

[WCS Coach]

Don't let the door hit you in the butt on the way out .

 

[Scout 4u]

Only hope in his spare time he trips down the stairs and knocks an ounce of sense into the head!

I have to give him credit for one thing. When others ran away from their indefensible positions and hid under the dark rock of IGNORE. He stayed in plain view of the truth and was eventually washed away.

 

[3Rfan]

I have to give him credit for one thing. When others ran away from their indefensible positions and hid under the dark rock of IGNORE. He stayed in plain view of the truth and was eventually washed away.

Is that the same truth we're seeing out of the current WH? How many lies have they told from the top down in the last few days. Trump knew about Flynn's issues in January and told a reporter he hadn't heard anything about it while standing in the door of AF1! Oh and he didn't bother to tell his VP so he went out and told reporters that sanctions were NOT discussed during Flynn's calls with the Russian. Not to mention he fired the gal that told him about it and blamed it on her being against his travel ban.

 

[WCS Coach]

I think there is a bigger issue at play here 3R. We seem to have intelligence agencies trying to undermine the President. Dangerous road we are going down.

 

[vbsideout]

I think there is a bigger issue at play here 3R. We seem to have intelligence agencies trying to undermine the President. Dangerous road we are going down.

I wonder if that is because Trump has all but called our intel people stupid. Words have consequences and our Pres. of great words seems to not be able to help himself.

 

[Scout 4u]

I think there is a bigger issue at play here 3R. We seem to have intelligence agencies trying to undermine the President. Dangerous road we are going down.

It is foolish to think that there are not Democrats that work for the intelligence agencies. Leaks, blame the folks that brought US the Susan Rice FAKE NEWS.

 

[Neutron Monster]

I think there is a bigger issue at play here 3R. We seem to have intelligence agencies trying to undermine the President. Dangerous road we are going down.

I'm concerned about this but it's also concerning that they think they have a legitimate reason to undermine him. Both things can be wrong.

 

[HomeyR]

I'm concerned about this but it's also concerning that they think they have a legitimate reason to undermine him. Both things can be wrong.

... in other words, they are just doing their job.

 

[Neutron Monster]

I wonder if that is because Trump has all but called our intel people stupid. Words have consequences and our Pres. of great words seems to not be able to help himself.

Tough to imagine this helped. And it sure seems like a lot of these people hated Flynn and wanted him gone. They knew the man from the past plus they had the FBI intel.

What's crazy is how many others appear to be leaking. Someone by Pence seems to be leaking like crazy about how he was in the dark. Someone by Jared & Ivanka leaks when they support or oppose certain policies in ways that make them look good to their NYC friends. Then you've got the leaks from the different White House power centers against each other. It's crazy.

 

[Neutron Monster]

... in other words, they are just doing their job.

Don't you think that is dangerous? Where is the line?

I get that it is hard. Flynn should not have been the NSA for reasons that were obvious long before Jan. 20 yet Trump picked him anyway. He's overseen 3 weeks of chaos. Is the country better off with him gone? Yes. But is this the way to accomplish that?

It feels an awful lot like they expected the White House to can Flynn once they reported the FBI investigation's details. They acted when Trump, for whatever reason, not only refused to fire him, but also sent people out in public to deny reality.

 

[HomeyR]

Don't you think that is dangerous? Where is the line?

I get that it is hard. Flynn should not have been the NSA for reasons that were obvious long before Jan. 20 yet Trump picked him anyway. He's overseen 3 weeks of chaos. Is the country better off with him gone? Yes. But is this the way to accomplish that?

It feels an awful lot like they expected the White House to can Flynn once they reported the FBI investigation's details. They acted when Trump, for whatever reason, not only refused to fire him, but also sent people out in public to deny reality.

For what it's worth, I felt exactly the same way when Comey intervined in the election. What exactly is "dangerous ?" The direction that Trump is taking this country with his so called foreign policy makes me fearful. Either way, this situation is going to have a very ugly ending.

 

[3Rfan]

It is foolish to think that there are not Democrats that work for the intelligence agencies. Leaks, blame the folks that brought US the Susan Rice FAKE NEWS.

You guys were pleased with the dem emails because of what was found out by having them. I'm pretty sure we need to know what this administration was doing BEFORE Trump took office. Now they say the campaign was in constant contact with Russians. Why would that be, they have NO EC votes!

 

[Scout 4u]

You guys were pleased with the dem emails because of what was found out by having them. I'm pretty sure we need to know what this administration was doing BEFORE Trump took office. Now they say the campaign was in constant contact with Russians. Why would that be, they have NO EC votes!

You can move to Russia anytime 3R.

 

[vbsideout]

People put their heads in the sand and bought into the greatest con ever put before the electorate and voted the minority party of trump into office by a very narrow margin of the EC not a landslide as they would have you believe. trump is exactly who he was during the campaign, The tweeter in chief can't just lie and expect those lies not to have consequences. Governing is a different ballgame as the minority party of Putin is finding out. Only 47 months to go.

 

[Neutron Monster]

For what it's worth, I felt exactly the same way when Comey intervined in the election. What exactly is "dangerous ?" The direction that Trump is taking this country with his so called foreign policy makes me fearful. Either way, this situation is going to have a very ugly ending.

The Comey thing is absurd when you see they were investigating the Trump campaign like this prior to Nov 8.

 

[Neutron Monster]

People put their heads in the sand and bought into the greatest con ever put before the electorate and voted the minority party of trump into office by a very narrow margin of the EC not a landslide as they would have you believe. trump is exactly who he was during the campaign, The tweeter in chief can't just lie and expect those lies not to have consequences. Governing is a different ballgame as the minority party of Putin is finding out. Only 47 months to go.

Trump's campaign was an organizational disaster that had no real coordination with Congress. It's really not a surprise that his White House would act in the same manner.

 

[vbsideout]

Trump's campaign was an organizational disaster that had no real coordination with Congress. It's really not a surprise that his White House would act in the same manner.

Throw stuff against the wall and still pick stuff that doesn't stick is bad way to form policy.

 

[WCS Coach]

I wonder if that is because Trump has all but called our intel people stupid. Words have consequences and our Pres. of great words seems to not be able to help himself.

You're going to excuse their undermining an elected official because they disagree with what he said about them or he hurt their feelings? The intelligence community has one job and one job only, and that is to provide intelligence to the president of the United States so he can implement foreign-policy. We simply cannot have our intelligence agencies leaking information.

 

[Scout 4u]

You're going to excuse their undermining an elected official because they disagree with what he said about them or he hurt their feelings? The intelligence community has one job and one job only, and that is to provide intelligence to the president of the United States so he can implement foreign-policy. We simply cannot have our intelligence agencies leaking information.

WCS, have you lost your mind?
The Democrats "are" the Intelligence Agency.

It took "WikiLeaks" (and) the Russians to expose the Clintons.

The worst enemies we have right now are not the Russians or Iranians. The worst enemy we have right now is the Radical Left Wing Religion of Liberalism.

 

[WCS Coach]

WCS, have you lost your mind?
The Democrats "are" the Intelligence Agency.

It took "WikiLeaks" (and) the Russians to expose the Clintons.

The worst enemies we have right now are not the Russians or Iranians. The worst enemy we have right now is the Radical Left Wing Religion of Liberalism.

There isn't any question about that. The problem was Bush did not clean house after he took over for Clinton and left people in place who have been there now for almost a quarter of a century.

Our intelligence community is infested with left-wing radical's and the past few months of been a very telling indicator of that.

 

[Neutron Monster]

There isn't any question about that. The problem was Bush did not clean house after he took over for Clinton and left people in place who have been there now for almost a quarter of a century.

Our intelligence community is infested with left-wing radical's and the past few months of been a very telling indicator of that.

What are you talking about?

 

[vbsideout]

You're going to excuse their undermining an elected official because they disagree with what he said about them or he hurt their feelings? The intelligence community has one job and one job only, and that is to provide intelligence to the president of the United States so he can implement foreign-policy. We simply cannot have our intelligence agencies leaking information.

You are wrong. They all work for the American people!! If we have people at highest levels doing harm to our country then we the people deserve to know. If you disagree then you are anti constitution. Who pays their salaries us or Trump?

 

[HomeyR]

What are you talking about?

He's been reading infowars again...

 

[Scout 4u]

There isn't any question about that. The problem was Bush did not clean house after he took over for Clinton and left people in place who have been there now for almost a quarter of a century.

Our intelligence community is infested with left-wing radical's and the past few months of been a very telling indicator of that.

The Left Wingers are already trying to say the NSA and FBI are non-partisan.

In today's world there is no such thing.

The "only" way to right this ship is to expose the snakes that brought us here, the US liberal media.
https://www.google.com/amp/www.theb...-sandy-hook-victims-father/amp/?client=safari

 

[millerbleach]

You guys were pleased with the dem emails because of what was found out by having them. I'm pretty sure we need to know what this administration was doing BEFORE Trump took office. Now they say the campaign was in constant contact with Russians. Why would that be, they have NO EC votes!

Russia releasing Hillarys dirty deeds is a foreign country not a US intelligence agency leaking info about a citizen.

 

[3Rfan]

Russia releasing Hillarys dirty deeds is a foreign country not a US intelligence agency leaking info about a citizen.

So what did Comey do 11 days before the election. He didn't even bother to leak it, he just announced it to the world then said oh never mind there was nothing to see there. Then when he was being questioned by senators about another subject later he said "we don't discuss on going investigations." We need to know about it if the Trump campaign was in frequent contact with Russian officials and for what purpose. We also needed to know Flynn was talking about stuff he had no business talking about with his counter part in Russia BEFORE Trump took office then lying it. Not to mention Trump knew it for weeks and didn't bother to tell his VP who then went out and denied it had happened. I hear he's not a happy camper about that! If there is nothing to see there Trump should call for a congressional investigation himself to clear his 'good name.'

 

[WCS Coach]

So what did Comey do 11 days before the election. He didn't even bother to leak it, he just announced it to the world then said oh never mind there was nothing to see there. Then when he was being questioned by senators about another subject later he said "we don't discuss on going investigations." We need to know about it if the Trump campaign was in frequent contact with Russian officials and for what purpose. We also needed to know Flynn was talking about stuff he had no business talking about with his counter part in Russia BEFORE Trump took office then lying it. Not to mention Trump knew it for weeks and didn't bother to tell his VP who then went out and denied it had happened. I hear he's not a happy camper about that! If there is nothing to see there Trump should call for a congressional investigation himself to clear his 'good name.'

I'm of the opinion that if Flynn actually did what they are saying he did they would go for his throat and the administrations. It isn't like there is any love there. What possible reason would they have not to leak the actual calls if they actually happened as they are saying they did? Don't get me wrong.....they had no right to leak what they leaked. If anything improper or illegal happened the proper course of action is not leaking this to the world. I'm sure the Russians suspect we monitor their calls...now they know for sure.

 

[Neutron Monster]

I'm of the opinion that if Flynn actually did what they are saying he did they would go for his throat and the administrations. It isn't like there is any love there. What possible reason would they have not to leak the actual calls if they actually happened as they are saying they did? Don't get me wrong.....they had no right to leak what they leaked. If anything improper or illegal happened the proper course of action is not leaking this to the world. I'm sure the Russians suspect we monitor their calls...now they know for sure.

Now they know? Give me a break with that nonsense. This is not exactly a secret.

 

[wcowherd]

Not that long ago that an FBI informant was instrumental in taking down the president of the United States. Not exactly unprecedented in our history.

 

[WCS Coach]

The are two differences. The wiki leaks did not come from people currently active in our intelligence departments that are being paid to assist in our national security effort. They also actually released the actual transcript of emails. There wasn't any guessing about content, plus that content was not denied by the individuals.

 

[wcowherd]

The are two differences. The wiki leaks did not come from people currently active in our intelligence departments that are being paid to assist in our national security effort. They also actually released the actual transcript of emails. There wasn't any guessing about content, plus that content was not denied by the individuals.

Is it really your contention the leaks from the IC are undermining our national security? I would argue the opposite.