Bullpen Philosophy

[vbsideout]

They paid him like a guy who would play 120 games a year, not 160[/Q

 

[vbsideout]

They paid him like a guy who would play 120 games a year, not 160

I'm sure that's exactly what they were thinking. Let's sign a guy to play 120!

 

[Neutron Monster]

I'm sure that's exactly what they were thinking. Let's sign a guy to play 120!

If you pay a guy for 120 you get really good value when he plays 150. And they probably figured that they have a ton of OF already so they could live with some health risk there.

 

[vbsideout]

If you pay a guy for 120 you get really good value when he plays 150. And they probably figured that they have a ton of OF already so they could live with some health risk there.

Do you ever tire of always thinking because you type it that it is correct. You will never convince me that contract was made with the idea of him missing 40 games a year for all those years because by the end of the contract he will be missing 60 to 80 games. and not be the player he is today. If that were true then he is over paid no matter how you cut it.

 

[Neutron Monster]

Do you ever tire of always thinking because you type it that it is correct. You will never convince me that contract was made with the idea of him missing 40 games a year for all those years because by the end of the contract he will be missing 60 to 80 games. and not be the player he is today. If that were true then he is over paid no matter how you cut it.

There's no way the Cards or any halfway decent MLB team looked at Fowler's history and expected him to go for 150 games a year. He's over 30 and injury prone.

And, do you really think the Cards don't think there is a decent chance he's a backup by 2021? Look at how often that happens on these deals for 30 something players. There's a tradeoff between average $ per year and contract length. The last year on these sorts of deals often ends up weak. Look at Holliday's last season with the Birds for a great example of this.

 

[3Rfan]

There's no way the Cards or any halfway decent MLB team looked at Fowler's history and expected him to go for 150 games a year. He's over 30 and injury prone.

And, do you really think the Cards don't think there is a decent chance he's a backup by 2021? Look at how often that happens on these deals for 30 something players. There's a tradeoff between average $ per year and contract length. The last year on these sorts of deals often ends up weak. Look at Holliday's last season with the Birds for a great example of this.

They really liked his smile.

 

[Eagles_Ball]

The last year on these sorts of deals often ends up weak. Look at Holliday's last season with the Birds for a great example of this.

Or Peralta. Happens all the time.

 

[Neutron Monster]

Or Peralta. Happens all the time.

Another good example.

And Waino in 2018 (only 20% kidding, sadly)

 

[Eagles_Ball]

Another good example.

And Waino in 2018 (only 20% kidding, sadly)

Gimmie the under on the 20%. He's going to be awful. Flaherty and Weaver keep having good starts, Waino shouldn't go near a situation with anything north of low leverage. I hate it, but he's just done. Dude ain't Carp, and it shows.

 

[Neutron Monster]

Gimmie the under on the 20%. He's going to be awful. Flaherty and Weaver keep having good starts, Waino shouldn't go near a situation with anything north of low leverage. I hate it, but he's just done. Dude ain't Carp, and it shows.

Uncle Charlie just isn't the pitch it once was for him, and he's not the same guy without it.

Not to mention he's liable to end up missing 20% of his starts this year...have to wonder if he can really get to 175 IP next year.

 

[vbsideout]

Uncle Charlie just isn't the pitch it once was for him, and he's not the same guy without it.

Not to mention he's liable to end up missing 20% of his starts this year...have to wonder if he can really get to 175 IP next year.

It's always sad when players reach the twilight of their career and they don't realize it and put their team in a lose, lose situation. Yadi will probably be next in 2 years.

 

[Eagles_Ball]

have to wonder if he can really get to 175 IP next year.

If he does, in a Birds uni, I'll be an alcoholic.

 

[vbsideout]

If he does, in a Birds uni, I'll be an alcoholic.

I already am

 

[Neutron Monster]

If he does, in a Birds uni, I'll be an alcoholic.

As long as a bunch of the 175 IP are in Springfield or Memphis you should be ok.

 

[Eagles_Ball]

As long as a bunch of the 175 IP are in Springfield or Memphis you should be ok.

Lol. Touche! I like that idea.