Gary Verslues also helped that with the 2000 2nd place boys basketball team, and the first and only basketball state title in 2001. Mixed with a young Ted Lepage (fresh off selling insurance) and Dr. J, those were exciting times for all.
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Here we go again lol. Snowflake about to get on his rant about the "Friends of the Program" or some other tantrum.
Get a tissue. There is a reason you are so quick to defend your beloved school.
Hey why don't you tell us again about the Army national guard recruiter you rent to, who just happens to be from Jeff city and who's son just happens to be good at football, wrestling and baseball.
Lol I'm not the one crying on here. I don't rent to anybody that works for the Army National Guard, so not sure where you make that up at but oh well.
There are tons of factors that have gone into the success that Blair Oaks has had for the last 25 years. I could sit here and discuss what I think those factors are for days. But it does make me laugh when people like you whine and complain.
They have been very fortunate to have some really good athletes, coaches and families come through the district. Before the current QB, they had 10 straight years of a Hair at QB. Two of them went on to be starters in college. The current QB will probably also get recruited. How many Class 2/3 schools can say they had 3 QBs in a row, assuming Bax goes D2, that have went D2 or better? They've had 1 D1 player in this 25 year run. But yes please go on about the only success they have is because they recruit and find a way to move kids in before freshman year and they're living with grandma and whatever other BS you want to spew.
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No one is crying. All I do is point out the hypocrisy of people like yourself. I'm all for parents doing what is needed to send their children to the best possible school. Blair Oaks is as good as it gets when it comes to public schools. I'd argue it's among the best in the country, let alone the state.
So please keep spinning this web that BO is all homegrown and blah blah blah. There is a reason BO has a poor relationship with surrounding schools. And yes you are right, there are many factors in BO's success, but this one you keep deflecting from because you know there is truth to it.
There are people that move into the district, that's obvious. You don't have the growth that they've had without people moving in. But there are still a lot of traditional names currently on the team and in the district. But most of them move in at a young age. You make it sound like they are getting a bunch of move ins during their high school years. Parents choose to send their kids to what they feel is a better school or the best situation for their kids. And if they do it legally, what is the problem?
Also, look at Helias' enrollment in the mid 2000s to now. I know some of that has to do with Tolton and Calvary. But there are a lot of kids that live in Wardsville that go to BO now instead of Helias. The enrollment at St. Stan has declined drastically over the years as well.
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Never said or implied any of that and I clearly don’t have a problem as I have stated numerous times.
You accuse them of recruiting and say you have to know someone in order to buy or build there. How is that not implying that they are doing something illegal?
I have never accused the school or coaches (or any school) of directly recruiting. There is a reason schools, whether public or private, don’t get hit with recruiting. Why are you so adamant on pretending to be naive.
At the start of the 2003 season records against Blair Oaks:
California was 21-7
Eldon was 18-9
Osage was 15-12
Versailles was 12-15
At end of this season against Blair Oaks:
California 24-28
Eldon 18-32
Osage 16-34
Versailles 12-35
California was 21-7
Eldon was 18-9
Osage was 15-12
Versailles was 12-15
At end of this season against Blair Oaks:
California 24-28
Eldon 18-32
Osage 16-34
Versailles 12-35
Blair Oaks does not recruit. The only way a student is able to attend Blair Oaks is either they live in that school district or if 1 of their parents is employed by the school district as staff or teacher.
Starts at the youth, in 4th grade. From then on up they run same system and have same expectations as the HS and kids are eager to leave their mark behind. I was at a couple of games and what I noticed most, was all those young kids, in their jerseys on those nights, having their own backyard football games going the whole night.
And they have a lot of quality coaches in their youth programs. There is a big difference between having quality coaches that can teach the game at that level as opposed to coaches that make it a miserable experience to where kids don't want to come back.
Technically, if the road ends in Seneca, that is very bad. I would think you would want the road ending in Columbia!
Ahh yes the ol'starts with the youth argument. Sorry man, I know that does help. But it's not 1998 anymore. A lot of schools have adopted the exact same programs. Information is out there at the finger tips of anybody that wants it. A lot of schools have very supportive communities and admin. It's all about the Jimmy & Joes and how they keep producing them. I can safely assume Blair Oaks works very hard to have success across the board. But assuming they just somehow work harder than every other Class 3 or 2 program is comical. A lot of schools just don't have the dudes. Park Hills Central was the prime example of that. The coaching staff had been together a long time, running the same program, before they finally broke through with some superb athletes at the same time(Great Coaching + Great Athletes). That is not uncommon at public schools. What is uncommon, is producing top tier athletes across the board every year. I was just curious as an outsider how that happens.
1x Division 1 Football signing ever (and few D2) for the BO football program tells me it might not always be about the Jimmy and Joes.
Not really a legitimate argument against what he argued. Getting a division one athlete at a Blair Oaks sized school is near impossible. That does not mean that they do not have better athletes than 90% of their competition (which they do). Great coaching is what gets them the other 10%. To say it's because of coaching that they blow out Boonville, for example, is comical. They win by 30 because of the athletes but win by 45 because they are coached better than the other team. It's not the X's and O's, it's the Jimmys and Joes. That's just the reality of it and anyone who says otherwise is kidding themselves.
Its the complete culture and everyone is bought in. Brought up with the same plays and same mentality from a very young age with coaches fully involved in teaching the game and the culture from that age all the way through high school. Additionally because those students bought in that pushes their underclassman and then their underclassman the traditions and legacy and they all want to live up to it as they see first hand the results over and over again.
You do get lucky with a few talented individuals back and forth with the same family playing QB for basicly 10 years and some of another being all WRs / RBs / and CBs for about a decade as well. It truely is a family afair. The younger kids not only want to play with their friends abut they want to be good if not better than what their brother was before he graduated. That is a culture that produces endless results at a high level.
Well your a Truman dawg, look at Truman State, which currently is also known to most of Central Missouri as Blair Oaks North. Several of the current members of Truman State came from BO and they all are producing well up there in Kirksville.
but those guys from families that have been around that district for a long time. So your argument is void. The coaching staff taught them well and the culture kept it going in the family and community. That is what produced those great athletes.
Only way you get better in football is technique, bigger, stronger and faster. I guess they do it the right way then.
I agree with a lot of this to an extent. I do think they have better athletes than most of the conference schools on a yearly basis, but a lot of that comes from development too. They don't play in the same youth league as most of the other conference schools, but other schools go undefeated in 7th and 8th grade and then are below .500 when they are juniors and seniors. I know all kids develop differently so you can't go off of MS necessarily but other schools do have talent, they just lose kids to a lot of different reasons. There are way too many coaches that don't focus on their Freshman and JV so their kids don't develop like they should.
I personally think coaching makes a lot bigger difference than 10%. BO was not more talented than Lutheran North or Cardinal Ritter in years past. They just flat out outcoached those guys. I watched SoBo give Trinity Catholic all they wanted in 18 when they had no business staying within 50 of those guys, but the SoBo staff outcoached Trinity and made it a game. Coach LePage had a great staff when he came back to BO, some of those guys have retired, but he still has a lot of quality assistant coaches and I think that part gets overlooked in football way too much. When Coach Walker was at BO he had a great staff. He brought some former coaches/players from JC with him, also had Coach Duke on staff, who might have Tipton in a title game this year. So they have been very fortunate to have some really good coaches through the years.
As I've stated before, there are so many things that have gone in to the sustained success at BO, but Dr. Jones and Coach Lepage are at the top of that list. IMO if he hadn't left he would probably have 9-10 Titles. There has been one coach that won a title not named LePage, and that was the year after he left the first time.
JC being a dumpster fire for years and people not wanting to send their kids there has helped too. Before Helias got the big donation that lowered tuition that helped as well. And the fact that BO has continued to be good in academics make it a hot spot that parents want to send their kids.
Development absolutely plays a role, definitely not what I'm saying. That's what separates the good from really good and the really good from great teams. My main point is that if you don't have the talent, it doesn't matter how good of a coach you are and you can have a pretty dang good team as a not great coach if you have the dudes.
combination of great athletes, work very hard and are very well coached.... It is the same as the old California, Osage, Camdenton teams. The head coach has a lot to do with it! Look at Helias for a couple of years. Look at Warsaw without Morrow. JC without Adkins or even LePage.
For a while. I guess if they get beat at some point, they can always say they lost 2 all-state players. BUT THEY WON"T! They will go out and prepare and expect to win each game. That comes from the culture of the program.
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