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Or is he so senile he can't keep the Six day war and the Yum Kippar War separate and He was in no way a liaison to Israel...per Israel. Two lies in one.
 
So you voted for that team also.
I can see why you don’t want that in YOUR head.
You have to walk around with that on your conscience. Bahahahahaha He was such a horrible person the country overwhelmingly chose a senile old man.
 
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Or is he so senile he can't keep the Six day war and the Yum Kippar War separate and He was in no way a liaison to Israel...per Israel. Two lies in one.
Biden has a long history of stretching a good story a bit to make it better. Kind of like when his wife had a grease fire in the kitchen and it has turned into "almost died in a house fire"
 
You bring up some critical topics facing our country!! Bahahahahaha That’s the best you can do?

Biden is a certified idiot. Yet 81 million Americans voted AGAINST the most vile piece of trash to ever set foot in the White House. But not you clowns. You think things are just horrible now because we can’t unload our Chinese manufactured goods from the ships. I just got back from Walmart and every shelf was stocked to the ceiling. My wife has been receiving packages daily. No one l know is without a job. In fact my sister just switched companies and got a great job and my kids are making money hand over fist. Yea. Senile Biden has ruined everything.
 
This is the team you voted for.

I don't have a instagram account so can't see your link.....but really if it's about Trump who has been out of office for almost a year now, I'm not interested he is no longer is charge or in office. He is just bloviating on Social Media and giving the emotionally obsessive who are fixated on his every move fits of rage and anger. Clearly this is generated by some irrational fear.
 
So you voted for that team also.
I can see why you don’t want that in YOUR head.
You have to walk around with that on your conscience. Bahahahahaha He was such a horrible person the country overwhelmingly chose a senile old man.
I don't disagree, Trump was so abrasive and So distasteful that they Chose Biden.
 
These types perpetuate the lies of the lib agenda by lying to themselves
Clearly we are not better off today, economically, or internationally. The Poll numbers and inflation numbers show that. And the divide between the Left and Right is greater now than it was even under Trump.
 
You bring up some critical topics facing our country!! Bahahahahaha That’s the best you can do?

Biden is a certified idiot. Yet 81 million Americans voted AGAINST the most vile piece of trash to ever set foot in the White House. But not you clowns. You think things are just horrible now because we can’t unload our Chinese manufactured goods from the ships. I just got back from Walmart and every shelf was stocked to the ceiling. My wife has been receiving packages daily. No one l know is without a job. In fact my sister just switched companies and got a great job and my kids are making money hand over fist. Yea. Senile Biden has ruined everything.
Some People are making Bank.....others are doing worse, way worse. I'm doing fine and most of my Friends are as well. But others are not, and inflation and the cost of everything going up is making a Dollar not go as far.

You and Your personal experiences as are Mine clearly are examples of small sample size being seen as the Norm. The numbers indicate shortages and that the working class is getting hit hard do to inflation.

I get it you hate Trump because his character is disgusting, I agree with you on that, but I was more inline with the policies he wanted to enact and put in place than anything that Biden has done or probably will do. Hence I was willing to Hold my nose and ignore is arrogant dbaggery and separate the Man from his Policies. Clearly you cannot.
 
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Clearly we are not better off today, economically, or internationally. The Poll numbers and inflation numbers show that. And the divide between the Left and Right is greater now than it was even under Trump.
Who do you think caused that divide and continues to do so today? Yeah some people are making bank! The billionaires have doubled and tripled their wealth in the last year or two. The FTC is investigating a few of the big companies about their sudden shortages of the stuff they ship or sell.
 
The MSM and the Fascist left caused the Divide....Spewing constant hate propaganda on their Media and Social Media platforms and Labeling nearly half the country, as Xenophobes, Racist, Homophobic, and Evil tends to create that type of division.

I love how All these Democratic/Leftist power brokers have profited greatly and taken more control as they pull the Strings of the Current Administration all the While the Minions are still focused on Trump and his mean spirited Tweets.

Jeff Bezos
Larry Page
Bill Gates yeah no profit for these big left wingers

I could go on....I'm well aware that the compensation between the average worker and the CEO has increased my unfathomable lengths...But let's not pretend that a lot of those who have benefited are not Riding the Donkey come election time. That is the greatest bamboozle of the last 25 years how the Dem's have gone full corporate but still act like they are the party of the Working Class.
 
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The MSM and the Fascist left caused the Divide....Spewing constant hate propaganda on their Media and Social Media platforms and Labeling nearly half the country, as Xenophobes, Racist, Homophobic, and Evil tends to create that type of division.

I love how All these Democratic/Leftist power brokers have profited greatly and taken more control as they pull the Strings of the Current Administration all the While the Minions are still focused on Trump and his mean spirited Tweets.

Jeff Bezos
Larry Page
Bill Gates yeah no profit for these big left wingers

I could go on....I'm well aware that the compensation between the average worker and the CEO has increased my unfathomable lengths...But let's not pretend that a lot of those who have benefited are not Riding the Donkey come election time. That is the greatest bamboozle of the last 25 years how the Dem's have gone full corporate but still act like they are the party of the Working Class.
I assume you have no idea what goes on at the various Fox News affiliates? I didn't say anything about who the rich folks that got richer are, they all did no matter what their politics. Which side of the political spectrum is FOR unions and which one tries to get them abolished at every turn?
 
I am on record lumping Fox in with the other MSM propagandist....the difference is it is one Network for the Right versus MSNBC,CNN,NBC,ABC,CBS,NYtimes,LAtimes,Huffington Post, Yahoo,Twitter,Google,Youtube, etc. for the left. They are all propagandist and shills for their respective side.

And I don't watch Fox news....I might catch a link at various times that comes up when looking into a subject. Just like I catch a CNN link at times as well. If you notice I link CNN at times as a receipt. I rarely if ever Link Fox news.

Unions are More Corrupt than the Gov. or any politician and they inflate the price of goods and service for jobs that require easily found labor skills.

I suspect you are in a Union or know someone who is.... With the eventual opening of the Borders and influx of foreign labor and the advancement of automated technology I'd say Unions will go the way of the Dodo bird. Mega Corporations and Globalization will destroy them and their high wages and over the top benefits. Which is the Goal of Democrats and RINO!


I'd have no issue with the decline of Unions. Compete in the open Market and hock your skills for what a company will pay you. Unions with their high wages and Benefits have driven Companies to outsource most everything to China or the Pacific rim. People want cheap and affordable goods and services. Unions run counter to that demand. And my Son-in Law and Cousin make bank in Unions. On a personal level I'm happy for them, but on a macro scale they are both high school grads and way over paid for what they do.

I still to this day recall taking a Business class in College and one whole chapter was on how the Most expense car in GM's lineup only had 9k of raw materials , shipping cost's, company profits, and dealership profits. The rest of the cost to the consumer was do to UNION labor and Benefits.
 
I could go on....I'm well aware that the compensation between the average worker and the CEO has increased my unfathomable lengths...But let's not pretend that a lot of those who have benefited are not Riding the Donkey come election time. That is the greatest bamboozle of the last 25 years how the Dem's have gone full corporate but still act like they are the party of the Working Class.
I'd have no issue with the decline of Unions. Compete in the open Market and hock your skills for what a company will pay you. Unions with their high wages and Benefits have driven Companies to outsource most everything to China or the Pacific rim. People want cheap and affordable goods and services. Unions run counter to that demand. And my Son-in Law and Cousin make bank in Unions. On a personal level I'm happy for them, but on a macro scale they are both high school grads and way over paid for what they do.

I still to this day recall taking a Business class in College and one whole chapter was on how the Most expense car in GM's lineup only had 9k of raw materials , shipping cost's, company profits, and dealership profits. The rest of the cost to the consumer was do to UNION labor and Benefits.

You make the comment that the wage difference has skyrocketed, but then go on in the next post to complain about unions. Why do you think the wage difference is happening? Nothing to do with the demise of the union?
 
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I am on record lumping Fox in with the other MSM propagandist....the difference is it is one Network for the Right versus MSNBC,CNN,NBC,ABC,CBS,NYtimes,LAtimes,Huffington Post, Yahoo,Twitter,Google,Youtube, etc. for the left. They are all propagandist and shills for their respective side.

And I don't watch Fox news....I might catch a link at various times that comes up when looking into a subject. Just like I catch a CNN link at times as well. If you notice I link CNN at times as a receipt. I rarely if ever Link Fox news.

Unions are More Corrupt than the Gov. or any politician and they inflate the price of goods and service for jobs that require easily found labor skills.

I suspect you are in a Union or know someone who is.... With the eventual opening of the Borders and influx of foreign labor and the advancement of automated technology I'd say Unions will go the way of the Dodo bird. Mega Corporations and Globalization will destroy them and their high wages and over the top benefits. Which is the Goal of Democrats and RINO!


I'd have no issue with the decline of Unions. Compete in the open Market and hock your skills for what a company will pay you. Unions with their high wages and Benefits have driven Companies to outsource most everything to China or the Pacific rim. People want cheap and affordable goods and services. Unions run counter to that demand. And my Son-in Law and Cousin make bank in Unions. On a personal level I'm happy for them, but on a macro scale they are both high school grads and way over paid for what they do.

I still to this day recall taking a Business class in College and one whole chapter was on how the Most expense car in GM's lineup only had 9k of raw materials , shipping cost's, company profits, and dealership profits. The rest of the cost to the consumer was do to UNION labor and Benefits.
I'd like to see you build some switches in a rail yard or fix the track after a train derailed. No degree required but you sure better know what your doing or it will happen again in the same spot and you just might just get your self badly injured or killed doing the work. Many times you have to do these things in very harsh weather. Trust me there ain't many places hotter, or colder than out on the RR. If that don't deserve a good pay check and benefits I don't know what should.
 
You make the comment that the wage difference has skyrocketed, but then go on in the next post to complain about unions. Why do you think the wage difference is happening? Nothing to do with the demise of the union?
The wage gap is simply because of Greed and weak shareholders who are willing to allow it to happen . If more workers unionized all the companies would do is pass on that price to the consumers or move more jobs to the Pacific Rim....CEO would still make the same as would the shareholders. That is your disconnect, you seem to correlate the over paying of CEO with the wages of the grunts. It really doesn't work that way and never has.
 
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I'd like to see you build some switches in a rail yard or fix the track after a train derailed. No degree required but you sure better know what your doing or it will happen again in the same spot and you just might just get your self badly injured or killed doing the work. Many times you have to do these things in very harsh weather. Trust me there ain't many places hotter, or colder than out on the RR. If that don't deserve a good pay check and benefits I don't know what should.
I have two Buddies who work for the Railroad one based out of Stillwater OK. and the Other based out of Mtn. Grove Mo. Even My GF bosses Husband works for the Railroad and I've talked in depth about their jobs. And again While I on a personal level love they make bank. Without a doubt they are over paid and over benefited.

I have no doubt with some training which I'm sure you got I could handle the job and I bet there is a lot of other people who could as well...probably a lot who would do it for less. I've done plenty of manual labor in my day, worked in a Machine shop, plumbing and Air Conditioning and heating. Not to mention working on a Farm and on equipment/fencing etc and I still do that in harsh weather to this day.

I won't discount the danger you incur because that is real. I don't begrudge you your pay, but no doubt the wages and benefit have led to Rail Road workers being let go and jobs being slashed. Back in 2020 they got rid of 20,000 workers and while I don't discount PSR as being a factor clearly high wages/benefits are as well. I mean 70k+ a year for RR work is a nice pay day. And the Benefits are top notch as well. All that of course is added in and paid for by the Consumer. Often the Consumer's who make a lot less than that.
 
I have two Buddies who work for the Railroad one based out of Stillwater OK. and the Other based out of Mtn. Grove Mo. Even My GF bosses Husband works for the Railroad and I've talked in depth about their jobs. And again While I on a personal level love they make bank. Without a doubt they are over paid and over benefited.

I have no doubt with some training which I'm sure you got I could handle the job and I bet there is a lot of other people who could as well...probably a lot who would do it for less. I've done plenty of manual labor in my day, worked in a Machine shop, plumbing and Air Conditioning and heating. Not to mention working on a Farm and on equipment/fencing etc and I still do that in harsh weather to this day.

I won't discount the danger you incur because that is real. I don't begrudge you your pay, but no doubt the wages and benefit have led to Rail Road workers being let go and jobs being slashed. Back in 2020 they got rid of 20,000 workers and while I don't discount PSR as being a factor clearly high wages/benefits are as well. I mean 70k+ a year for RR work is a nice pay day. And the Benefits are top notch as well. All that of course is added in and paid for by the Consumer. Often the Consumer's who make a lot less than that.
Never made anywhere near that in my 32 years and had to do it all by hand for several years. When I started your training was set the motor car on the track and use the hand crank to star it. No trucks that ran on the rails for track gangs for nearly another 10 years. This was in 1973, not 1935. Then get on the motor car and ride 30 minutes and get off and drag 20 new ties across 2 tracks to the mainline and lift them on a push car with just me and an old man then go back up the track and start taking old ties out and putting new ones in and spiking them up. All with tools I had never seen before that day.
 
Trump may have been very abrasive but…..

It doesn't say who got the benefits form it. I got back a little bit more than the year before on my standard deduction tax filing. How much more do you think the millionaires and billionaires who didn't need any tax cut got?
 
It doesn't say who got the benefits form it. I got back a little bit more than the year before on my standard deduction tax filing. How much more do you think the millionaires and billionaires who didn't need any tax cut got?
Biden campaign on repealing the tax cut for the wealthy. I'm waiting.
 
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It doesn't say who got the benefits form it. I got back a little bit more than the year before on my standard deduction tax filing. How much more do you think the millionaires and billionaires who didn't need any tax cut got?
Did you read the headline?
Further down in the article.
“That means most middle-income and working-class earners enjoyed a tax cut that was at least double the size of tax cuts received by households earning $1 million or more.”
 
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Did you read the headline?
Further down in the article.
“That means most middle-income and working-class earners enjoyed a tax cut that was at least double the size of tax cuts received by households earning $1 million or more.”
Yes I got a tax refund for $600 when before I basically broke even every year on personal income taxes. I wonder how much more the multi millionaires came out ahead than $600 - not to mention their tax deductions, shelters, and loopholes!!!

No one can deny the rich are getting richer. Paying more in taxes isn't going to effect their lives one damn bit.
 
You have lost your mind? It may be double percentage wise but a 1% cut for them is more money than I'll make in many years.
 
Yes I got a tax refund for $600 when before I basically broke even every year on personal income taxes. I wonder how much more the multi millionaires came out ahead than $600 - not to mention their tax deductions, shelters, and loopholes!!!

No one can deny the rich are getting richer. Paying more in taxes isn't going to effect their lives one damn bit.
I agree....but the point is that Neither the Rep. or the Dem's are interested in making themselves pay more taxes they are the Rich they don't have the guts to take from themselves or their overloards. The Dem's act like they are going to help the middle/working class, just like the Rep. always claim they will do something about abortion. At least Trump did a something to help the average joe. The Dem's and Rep. do nothing in helping the Middle/Working class when it comes to tax relief.
 
You have lost your mind? It may be double percentage wise but a 1% cut for them is more money than I'll make in many years.
I'm not sure how you can complain about a progressive Rep. tax plan that Cut the over all tax burden for those under 200k and increased the Burden for those over 200K. The tax bill did what it was claimed to do and did it well. Maybe you are just looking for reasons to dislike the plan because of your over emotional disdain of Trump.
 
I'm not sure how you can complain about a progressive Rep. tax plan that Cut the over all tax burden for those under 200k and increased the Burden for those over 200K. The tax bill did what it was claimed to do and did it well. Maybe you are just looking for reasons to dislike the plan because of your over emotional disdain of Trump.
Oh yeah I'm in tears just thinking about him. :rolleyes: Maybe you would like to comment on all the calls and emails sent from people trying to get him to call off his dogs on 1-6. Even Fox news hosts were trying to get him to do something about it. They said he's ruining his legacy.:eek:
 
I don't give a darn about his legacy. But clearly you have a obsession with him. He has been out of office for almost a year and still you continue to complain and bring him up like he still is in office. The fact that you believe he coordinated the knuckle heads who stormed the capital and could of controlled their behavior speaks volumes. And if people where emailing and calling him about that they clearly don't understand human behavior either.
 
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I don't give a darn about his legacy. But clearly you have a obsession with him. He has been out of office for almost a year and still you continue to complain and bring him up like he still is in office. The fact that you believe he coordinated the knuckle heads who stormed the capital and could of controlled their behavior speaks volumes. And if people where emailing and calling him about that they clearly don't understand human behavior either.
Apparently you are NOT keeping up with the news. Emails have been released that show his own people, including his son and Fox News hosts, were begging Meadows to get Trump to call off the people inside the capitol. Why would they be doing that if THEY didn't think he was in control? I remember when it was happening some of the people inside the building were checking their phones and said "hey Trump says we need to leave, let's go." If you think he isn't STILL in control of those people you just ain't paying attention!
 
Did you read the full articles any of them? Clearly you didn't....The Fox Talking Heads texted Meadows wanting him to quell the actions of the idiots running amok. They where concerned that it was destroying Trumps legacy because of the perception of the incident. Don Jr. wanted him to publicly disavow the violence. Wanting a Oval office Address.

He wasn't in Control....Jeez it's so obvious that he wasn't a planned operation or controlled by anyone. Where was the organization, the planning, the Weapons? None of that was to be found. Literally you can google search plans for a insurrection and come up with a better plan that what happened on Jan.6th. Which is 100% the fault of the Capital police and security, for not being prepared or ready for a issue.

The problem was that the LEO didn't think it could or would happen because in General Conservatives don't riot and go crazy. But after months of BLM/Riots and the condoning of that behavior by the Left....well the Nutters on the right decided to parrot that behavior. Once the People who are the backers of Law and Order and the System develop contempt for the system then the system is on it's last dying gasp of life.

And it was Text that Meadows got from the talking Heads from Fox...according to all the articles and headlines I read.



Here is the Truth once the Nutters where on a rampage the bull was out the gate. You all act like Trump is some Supreme Leader and his supporters follow his wishes and orders like good Children and that he somehow was in contact with those who decided to breach the capital. That is not how this works. Trump is just the catalyst and figure head to rally around. Even the Talking Heads on Fox and his son give Trump WAYYYYYY to much Prestige and Credit. Him going on TV wasn't going to stop the action. It was now emotional based and a feeding frenzy.

Trump was in control of nothing, but I have no doubt he did take some enjoyment in the whole incident which makes him a piece of Crap person. But to suggest this was a planned and orchestrated incident is Beyond laughable.

This is what I'm talking about with you and Trump. You are level headed and insightful on somethings...but then you go off the Rails and believe that Trump was somehow in control of and planned the incidents on Jan. 6th. Without proof or evidence...none literally none. You also assume that people who voted for Trump are some monolithic hive minded group under his control and that he could just wave a wand and end the riots per his Commands. Which is far from the Truth.

I laughed at Liz Cheney giving the example that Trump failed to stop the violence, how? By Magic!!! If the Capital Police and other Law enforcement agency's can't stop a breach of the Capital how is a 70+ year old Fat man with a fake tan and bad comb over suppose to quell the violence??

Why Didn't Bumbling Biden stop the BLM riots.....
 
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Did you read the full articles any of them? Clearly you didn't....The Fox Talking Heads texted Meadows wanting him to quell the actions of the idiots running amok. They where concerned that it was destroying Trumps legacy because of the perception of the incident. Don Jr. wanted him to publicly disavow the violence. Wanting a Oval office Address.

He wasn't in Control....Jeez it's so obvious that he wasn't a planned operation or controlled by anyone. Where was the organization, the planning, the Weapons? None of that was to be found. Literally you can google search plans for a insurrection and come up with a better plan that what happened on Jan.6th. Which is 100% the fault of the Capital police and security, for not being prepared or ready for a issue.

The problem was that the LEO didn't think it could or would happen because in General Conservatives don't riot and go crazy. But after months of BLM/Riots and the condoning of that behavior by the Left....well the Nutters on the right decided to parrot that behavior. Once the People who are the backers of Law and Order and the System develop contempt for the system then the system is on it's last dying gasp of life.

And it was Text that Meadows got from the talking Heads from Fox...according to all the articles and headlines I read.



Here is the Truth once the Nutters where on a rampage the bull was out the gate. You all act like Trump is some Supreme Leader and his supporters follow his wishes and orders like good Children and that he somehow was in contact with those who decided to breach the capital. That is not how this works. Trump is just the catalyst and figure head to rally around. Even the Talking Heads on Fox and his son give Trump WAYYYYYY to much Prestige and Credit. Him going on TV wasn't going to stop the action. It was now emotional based and a feeding frenzy.

Trump was in control of nothing, but I have no doubt he did take some enjoyment in the whole incident which makes him a piece of Crap person. But to suggest this was a planned and orchestrated incident is Beyond laughable.

This is what I'm talking about with you and Trump. You are level headed and insightful on somethings...but then you go off the Rails and believe that Trump was somehow in control of and planned the incidents on Jan. 6th. Without proof or evidence...none literally none. You also assume that people who voted for Trump are some monolithic hive minded group under his control and that he could just wave a wand and end the riots per his Commands. Which is far from the Truth.

I laughed at Liz Cheney giving the example that Trump failed to stop the violence, how? By Magic!!! If the Capital Police and other Law enforcement agency's can't stop a breach of the Capital how is a 70+ year old Fat man with a fake tan and bad comb over suppose to quell the violence??

Why Didn't Bumbling Biden stop the BLM riots.....
I give up, you'll never acknowledge that Trump ever did anything to try to stay in power even though it's as clear as the nose on your face.
 
I have and do acknowledge Trump tried to find with gusto, proof that he was cheated out of the Election. He made phone calls to public officials, took to the Media and proclaimed and still proclaims without proof that he was cheated out of the election, tried and failed at law suits all because his Pride was hurt and he lost. That is all Factual happenings and did happen and can be verified.

Do I think Trump believes he was Cheated?? Yes.. clearly Trump thinks he was cheated out of the Election and wanted more time to Find the evidence. Hence why he was so Pizzed off at Pence for certifying the election. Do I think there was any election fraud? Yes there always is but no more than in a Normal election cycle so it was a wash as always. So Trump no matter the amount of time was not going to find what he believed was out there.

But I don't think he planned a coup or insurrection with a Cabal of conspirators.......There is ZERO evidence of a planned Trump over throw on Jan.6th and the way the events unfolded it clearly shows it was not in anyway shape or form a organized event to take over the Government.

But you clearly believe the MSM slanted Propaganda and lies that it was a full blown Coup attempt and Trump was some evil Dictator in waiting wanting to set up a dynasty.

What you don't see is that Trump was a populist president and threatened the established power elites on BOTH sides. He was a Joke to them until he won. Jeb Bush was suppose to be the Candidate ....but Trump squashed him in the Primary making him appear weak. Then Hillary was suppose to win in a Landslide ....and she lost. The power structure hates unknown entities and Trump was one and not controllable.

That is why from the Get go the FBI spurred on by Dem' camp and the RINOs went after Trump and all this was bolstered by the Lies of the MSM..... He was not part of the inner circle ...not part of the Club.

Steel Dossier LIE complete fraud and made up
Impeachment LIE complete Political attack and waste of money
2nd Impeachment Lie another Political Attack to destroy his 2024 bid
 
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I don’t even have cable and I don’t just follow the MSM. But my eyes are open enough to see. Trump pressured people to overthrow results of elections. There was audio. There was video. He met with state legislators. He pressured Georgia office holders. He filed lawsuits with no evidence.
He harassed people. His people organized a rally for Jan 6—TWO MONTHS AFTER HE ALREADY LOST. Who would do that????

He asked people to come to Washington via social media. Why? He enflamed people against Pence. He told them to March to the capitol and take back their country. It’s all on video. This “populist” knew the were enough uneducated moronic followers that would overreact. He wanted it. No one in “the media” told us that. WE could see it with our own eyes.

when they started to ransack the capitol and search for pence, Pelosi and others he watched on TV and despite the begging of officeholders he did nothing for three hours and seven minutes.

they have evidence out the arse of Trump allies collaborating with the riot organizers.
We have video evidence out the arse of Trump leading them from the podium.
At the rally and weeks and weeks before.
 
Clearly you troll and watch links on twitter which is worse than the MSM....Please Post some links of all this evidence that proves Trump planned and organized a coup on Jan. 6th....I've searched and found no evidence of collusion with the rioters. None at all.

Trump did pressure people to find evidence that the election was a fraud and stolen from him. That is what the audio, law suits and pressure on officials prove. Nothing more. Trump truly believed the election was fraudulent and the proof was out there and he went balz to the wall to find it pushing the line of good form in a effort to get it and I can't condone his actions on that account.

I find it weird that you have no problem with the Mueller investigation, Steel Dossier and bogus Impeachment and all the harassment, lies and trampling of individuals rights to get a sitting and duly elected President removed on false grounds. With no proof, no evidence and nothing but lies based on him as a person.

It's possible that if a Person endures 4 years of those type of underhanded and illegal tactics that he and his supporters might believe that fraud was involved in a Election.

Clearly the Rights actions was more of a By product of the BLM riots and the support of those riots by the Democratic party than anything Orange man said. It gave the Radical wing of conservatives a belief that if the other side can engage in those tactics so can we. They wanted to vent their frustrations.
 
“The mob takes the Fifth. If you're innocent, why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?” —Donald Trump

Roger Stone is taking the Fifth before the January 6.
 
Stupid ignorant statement by Trump one of thousands....you take the 5th so lawyers can't twist and use your statements against you in a manipulative manner, its what they are paid to do to the opposition.....
 
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