Another incident at a track meet

[trumanbulldog42]

Texas high school football star Austin Metcalf stabbed in the heart, left to die in twin brother’s arms at track meet: dad

A Texas high school star athlete was stabbed in the heart and left to die in his loving twin brother’s arms following a fight over a seat at a track meet.

nypost.com

Another incident where instead of taking responsibility of what their child did. The parent says people are making assumptions about his sons character without knowing what happened. Dude, your son stabbed another kid in the heart over an altercation about being in the wrong seat. He is a psychopath and deserves to be in jail for the rest of his life so shut up.

 

[cardsfan200306]

Texas high school football star Austin Metcalf stabbed in the heart, left to die in twin brother’s arms at track meet: dad

A Texas high school star athlete was stabbed in the heart and left to die in his loving twin brother’s arms following a fight over a seat at a track meet.

nypost.com

Another incident where instead of taking responsibility of what their child did. The parent says people are making assumptions about his sons character without knowing what happened. Dude, your son stabbed another kid in the heart over an altercation about being in the wrong seat. He is a psychopath and deserves to be in jail for the rest of his life so shut up.

What the hell is wrong with these kids

 

[Veer2Eternity]

Texas high school football star Austin Metcalf stabbed in the heart, left to die in twin brother’s arms at track meet: dad

A Texas high school star athlete was stabbed in the heart and left to die in his loving twin brother’s arms following a fight over a seat at a track meet.

nypost.com

Another incident where instead of taking responsibility of what their child did. The parent says people are making assumptions about his sons character without knowing what happened. Dude, your son stabbed another kid in the heart over an altercation about being in the wrong seat. He is a psychopath and deserves to be in jail for the rest of his life so shut up.

I read today that the story is a bit different than presented. Sad in any case.

 

[Comeagle]

It is a sad and disturbing event. The defendant said he was acting in self defense and that the victim put his hands on him. Unless the victim had a weapon in the altercation I don’t know how “putting his hands” on the defendant rises to the use of deadly force for the claim of self defense to be valid. Of course that is from a news article and the truth may be totally different.

 

[trumanbulldog42]

It is a sad and disturbing event. The defendant said he was acting in self defense and that the victim put his hands on him. Unless the victim had a weapon in the altercation I don’t know how “putting his hands” on the defendant rises to the use of deadly force for the claim of self defense to be valid. Of course that is from a news article and the truth may be totally different.

Exactly unless he was having the crap beat out of him So bad that he could possibly die, he is a psychopath and a murderer. Idc if he has a 4.0 GPA and has never been in trouble before. That's irrelevant

 

[trumanbulldog42]

I read today that the story is a bit different than presented. Sad in any case.

Unless it's so different that the guy was about to die from being beat up so bad, it's irrelevant

 

[Veer2Eternity]

Unless it's so different that the guy was about to die from being beat up so bad, it's irrelevant

I don't know. If 5 guys were jumping you... what do you do? 5 guys that had college football aspirations.

I think race is injected into this now so folks will pick their sides and won't budge but there's a lot about this that needs to come out.

 

[Comeagle]

I don't know. If 5 guys were jumping you... what do you do? 5 guys that had college football aspirations.

I think race is injected into this now so folks will pick their sides and won't budge but there's a lot about this that needs to come out.

Where is it being reported that 5 guys were jumping the defendant. Not saying that wasn’t the case just having seen that reported.

 

[Veer2Eternity]

Where is it being reported that 5 guys were jumping the defendant. Not saying that wasn’t the case just having seen that reported.

is there a set number that makes the difference?

 

[Comeagle]

is there a set number that makes the difference?

Yes. Makes a huge difference. 1 person putting his hands on another person compared to 5 people jumping 1 person makes all the difference.

 

[Veer2Eternity]

Yes. Makes a huge difference. 1 person putting his hands on another person compared to 5 people jumping 1 person makes all the difference.

Where's the line? 1 college football prospect backed up by 2 buddies?

 

[Comeagle]

Where's the line? 1 college football prospect backed up by 2 buddies?

The “line” is different in every situation. Every news story I have read is that it was only the defendant and the victim. There may have been other people present “backing up” the victim but I have not seen any reports they touched the victim. I have also not seen any reports that the victim even threw a punch. The victim did, based on reports, try to remove the defendant from the school’s tent. Even if the victim was shoved and/or pushed that does not rise to the level of imminent threat of great bodily harm or death, which would be needed for self defense. It is a senseless tragedy. One teenager is dead and another will probably spend years in prison.

Again I do not entirely trust news reports, especially the closer in time they are to the incident

 

[Veer2Eternity]

The “line” is different in every situation. Every news story I have read is that it was only the defendant and the victim. There may have been other people present “backing up” the victim but I have not seen any reports they touched the victim. I have also not seen any reports that the victim even threw a punch. The victim did, based on reports, try to remove the defendant from the school’s tent. Even if the victim was shoved and/or pushed that does not rise to the level of imminent threat of great bodily harm or death, which would be needed for self defense. It is a senseless tragedy. One teenager is dead and another will probably spend years in prison.

Again I do not entirely trust news reports, especially the closer in time they are to the incident

I have seen it was the college football player to be and his twin brother at a minimum . It was in the other schools tent...how many 'buddies' you think were standing right there?

Again this whole thing sucks and it's absolutely being 'pumped up' due to race.

You're right about waiting for reports. The media is interested in clicks and views only.

 

[cardsfan200306]

We were all in high school at one point I'd assume. Therefore we all know you don't go inside another schools tent at a competition and refuse to leave when asked and or told to without having malicious intent.

This is a clear example of someone instigating BS and crying victim.

Schools are weapon free zones, you don't take them there without the intent to use them.

This is 100% premeditated murder and I don't care how many there were. Simple facts you brought a weapon to a weapon free zone, you went where you were not welcome, you were asked and or told to leave and did not. You then stabbed and killed someone. Welcome to TDCJ you won't like it.

 

[trumanbulldog42]

We were all in high school at one point I'd assume. Therefore we all know you don't go inside another schools tent at a competition and refuse to leave when asked and or told to without having malicious intent.

This is a clear example of someone instigating BS and crying victim.

Schools are weapon free zones, you don't take them there without the intent to use them.

This is 100% premeditated murder and I don't care how many there were. Simple facts you brought a weapon to a weapon free zone, you went where you were not welcome, you were asked and or told to leave and did not. You then stabbed and killed someone. Welcome to TDCJ you won't like it.

Exactly, even If I was being attacked by 5 people at a track meet (which there is no report that this even happened) It would not even cross my mind to use a knife to murder one of them. He is a psychopath, end of story and I hope he rots in prison. Anyone making this about race should be ashamed of themselves.

 

[Veer2Eternity]

We were all in high school at one point I'd assume. Therefore we all know you don't go inside another schools tent at a competition and refuse to leave when asked and or told to without having malicious intent.

This is a clear example of someone instigating BS and crying victim.

Schools are weapon free zones, you don't take them there without the intent to use them.

This is 100% premeditated murder and I don't care how many there were. Simple facts you brought a weapon to a weapon free zone, you went where you were not welcome, you were asked and or told to leave and did not. You then stabbed and killed someone. Welcome to TDCJ you won't like it.

it's all going to depend on one juror agreeing it was self-defense.

Not a high bar.

And it's not illegal to carry a knife to texas schools if the blade is 5.5 inches or less.

 

[Veer2Eternity]

Exactly, even If I was being attacked by 5 people at a track meet (which there is no report that this even happened) It would not even cross my mind to use a knife to murder one of them. He is a psychopath, end of story and I hope he rots in prison. Anyone making this about race should be ashamed of themselves.

You're being very emotional for a robot.

Why is that?

 

[trumanbulldog42]

You're being very emotional for a robot.

Why is that?

Maybe because a high school kid got murdered for no reason other than being in a scuffle.....that could be it....

 

[J. Kane]

You're being very emotional for a robot.

Why is that?

 

[BoosterBosko]

You're being very emotional for a robot.

Why is that?

Maybe because a high school kid got murdered for no reason other than being in a scuffle.....that could be it....

Robots, especially THE MoSports AI Bot @trumanbulldog42 . He has learned and evolved quite a bit these last few months. His programmers didn't realize the monster they created. Having said that, his emotion on this thread is warranted and further proves he is learning emotions. Because no one should be killed over something so petty.

However, I don't believe this qualifies as murder. This will probably be a manslaughter charge. Murder implies the killer arrived at the track meet with the INTENTION of killing this poor teen.

 

[trumanbulldog42]

Robots, especially THE MoSports AI Bot @trumanbulldog42 . He has learned and evolved quite a bit these last few months. His programmers didn't realize the monster they created. Having said that, his emotion on this thread is warranted and further proves he is learning emotions. Because no one should be killed over something so petty.

However, I don't believe this qualifies as murder. This will probably be a manslaughter charge. Murder implies the killer arrived at the track meet with the INTENTION of killing this poor teen.

I think he got arrested for first degree murder which was surprising to me....I think the only things they have to stand on with that is that he brought a knife to a track meet with evidently the intent of possibly using it.

 

[Veer2Eternity]

I think he got arrested for first degree murder which was surprising to me....I think the only things they have to stand on with that is that he brought a knife to a track meet with evidently the intent of possibly using it.

knives in school aren't illegal in Texas.

 

[trumanbulldog42]

knives in school aren't illegal in Texas.

That has nothing to do with what I said. I just stated what he was arrested for and why...don't shoot the messenger....be better!

 

[J. Kane]

knives in school aren't illegal in Texas.

Or in Talladega

 

[BoosterBosko]

I think he got arrested for first degree murder which was surprising to me....I think the only things they have to stand on with that is that he brought a knife to a track meet with evidently the intent of possibly using it.

Arriving to the track meet with said weapon would open a case for murder. Its a weak case but still a case. Murder also carries harsher penalties than manslaughter but is normally harder to prove.

If the suspect has already been charged with murder, it sounds like there is more to the story

 

[HomeyR]

Arriving to the track meet with said weapon would open a case for murder. Its a weak case but still a case. Murder also carries harsher penalties than manslaughter but is normally harder to prove.

If the suspect has already been charged with murder, it sounds like there is more to the story

Cmon now Sheldon... This is Texas... the kid will get the max !

 

[J. Kane]

Arriving to the track meet with said weapon would open a case for murder. Its a weak case but still a case. Murder also carries harsher penalties than manslaughter but is normally harder to prove.

If the suspect has already been charged with murder, it sounds like there is more to the story

Bosko has lots of expertise when it comes to knives!

 

[BoosterBosko]

Bosko has lots of expertise when it comes to knives!

Bit early to be hitting the sauce aint it, Joe? We have been down this road before. That video would NOT hold up in court!

 

[J. Kane]

Bit early to be hitting the sauce aint it, Joe? We have been down this road before. That video would NOT hold up in court!

 

[cardsfan200306]

it's all going to depend on one juror agreeing it was self-defense.

Not a high bar.

And it's not illegal to carry a knife to texas schools if the blade is 5.5 inches or less.

No that would be a hung jury and pretrial.

Once again this is Texas he will see the inside and possibly death row.

This is why open laws are not always good. A law meant to protect farm and ranch kids from prosecution is already being mentioned to save a urban thug.

Pitiful

 

[cardsfan200306]

Robots, especially THE MoSports AI Bot @trumanbulldog42 . He has learned and evolved quite a bit these last few months. His programmers didn't realize the monster they created. Having said that, his emotion on this thread is warranted and further proves he is learning emotions. Because no one should be killed over something so petty.

However, I don't believe this qualifies as murder. This will probably be a manslaughter charge. Murder implies the killer arrived at the track meet with the INTENTION of killing this poor teen.

The knife was in the bag which means he had to have an actual thought of retrieval and use, then an action of retrieval and use all while being asked and or told to leave. That means he had a choice between to actions 1 leave, 2 open backpack, grab knife from backpack, 3 use knife on victim.

This gets even worse if it wasn't a fixed blade knife and he had to open the non fixed blade knife.

The intent to kill after thought is there with a reasonable method of exit. Not only is this not self defense but is murder

 

[Veer2Eternity]

No that would be a hung jury and pretrial.

Once again this is Texas he will see the inside and possibly death row.

This is why open laws are not always good. A law meant to protect farm and ranch kids from prosecution is already being mentioned to save a urban thug.

Pitiful

You're getting emotional again.

Who says he's an urban thug?

 

[cardsfan200306]

You're getting emotional again.

Who says he's an urban thug?

Emotional? If you call being upset that a kid was murdered emotional then sure. The fact you don't is pitiful

Well the school is urban and he walks around with a weapon and kills people that's a thug. Hence urban thug

 

[Veer2Eternity]

Emotional? If you call being upset that a kid was murdered emotional then sure. The fact you don't is pitiful

Well the school is urban and he walks around with a weapon and kills people that's a thug. Hence urban thug

1) Weapon was legal in Tx apparently
2) Why so emotional about this one kid? You're being manipulated by your media.
3) He was defending himself. Every person should have that right. Stand your ground?
In Texas, the "stand your ground" law, also known as the Castle Doctrine, allows individuals to use force, including deadly force, in self-defense without a duty to retreat, as long as they are in a place where they have a legal right to be, and they reasonably believe they are in imminent danger.

 

[BoosterBosko]

The knife was in the bag which means he had to have an actual thought of retrieval and use, then an action of retrieval and use all while being asked and or told to leave. That means he had a choice between to actions 1 leave, 2 open backpack, grab knife from backpack, 3 use knife on victim.

This gets even worse if it wasn't a fixed blade knife and he had to open the non fixed blade knife.

The intent to kill after thought is there with a reasonable method of exit. Not only is this not self defense but is murder

But did the killer put that knife into his back pack with the intent on harming someone?

 

[cardsfan200306]

But did the killer put that knife into his back pack with the intent on harming someone?

Intent at time of placing knife is irrelevant due to intent at time of retrieval.

 

[Veer2Eternity]

Intent at time of placing knife is irrelevant due to intent at time of retrieval.

In Texas, the "stand your ground" law, also known as the Castle Doctrine, allows individuals to use force, including deadly force, in self-defense without a duty to retreat, as long as they are in a place where they have a legal right to be, and they reasonably believe they are in imminent danger.

 

[trumanbulldog42]

You're getting emotional again.

Who says he's an urban thug?

sooo do you not realize the definition of a thug or are you just purposefully being obtuse.....just in case you didn't, here it is - a violent, aggressive person, especially one who is a criminal.

 

[cardsfan200306]

1) Weapon was legal in Tx apparently
2) Why so emotional about this one kid? You're being manipulated by your media.
3) He was defending himself. Every person should have that right. Stand your ground?
In Texas, the "stand your ground" law, also known as the Castle Doctrine, allows individuals to use force, including deadly force, in self-defense without a duty to retreat, as long as they are in a place where they have a legal right to be, and they reasonably believe they are in imminent danger.

1 have you seen murder qeapon because I have not.
2 your assumptions are what takes your credibility away. This is not the first incident that I have spoken on where a kid was wrong or a kid was harmed, furthermore I don't let the media tell.me how to think, I have my own thoughts and opinions you should try that instead of regurgitating every talk point you hear from people who align with your views.
3 there has been Noone at this time attempt to bring validity to the families claim of self defense.

While this is a fluid situation and facts will be revealed later that can change my opinion it is clear that you lack that ability.

Last but not least way to go on a personal attack to avoid acknowledging you don't care about murdered kids. However your lack of acknowledgement just confirmed it.

 

[trumanbulldog42]

In Texas, the "stand your ground" law, also known as the Castle Doctrine, allows individuals to use force, including deadly force, in self-defense without a duty to retreat, as long as they are in a place where they have a legal right to be, and they reasonably believe they are in imminent danger.

I really am struggling to realize why you are trying to defend someone for using a knife to stab someone in the chest when there were at most in a scuffle. If you were having the absolute shite beat out of you, you would not have the ability to get into your bag, grab a knife, and then use that knife to stab someone directly in the heart. Stop it with your nonsense