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Duck I think the shrinking roster had more to do with you...Sorry over they years you have been disgusting and very degrading to people on here at time not a very good person. Not somebody I think alot of kids in school who would want to play for you. Its obvious by your shrinking roster you want to blame everybody but yourself.

Wrong. The shrink started before I got there. Try again.
 
Wrong. The shrink started before I got there. Try again.

Well have you ever spoken to the people who run your youth program? Do you guys work for the same goals are you willing to work and engage with them to help better them? Or do you talk to them and about them to their face like you are currently on this board? I work very closely with our head coach and our assistants I call them friends, they talk to me and set goals for us and tell us what they want us to teach the kids and to make sure they all play. I am always willing to do what I can to better our communication with our High school coaches. They let us come in and watch practices they are willing to always sit down and teach us anything and are willing to always answer questions. Every time we have ever gotten a new head coach I have always gone out of my way to introduce myself and find out what they expect from us and our program, and how they want us to approach them and how willing they are to work with us.
 
I have never meet the man personally and honestly I am going by my interaction with his post and interaction on this board, which may not be a true reflection of his character?
He's blunt and passionate about his beliefs. He also has a bit of a sarcastic sense of humor and it can come off wrong online I'm sure. My point is that the way someone comes across online or in an email can be completely misconstrued and not be a true reflection on the type of person you know face to face.
 
Every athlete that I have interacted with that Coach Ducky coached, had nothing but exceptional things to say about the man. And he is right about the youth football program. To say whether or not it hurts or helps Ste. Gen.? I don't have a clue. But I do know that the freshmen numbers are down quite a bit compared to 10-15 years ago. I believe we had 60 or so kids out my freshman year. Maybe half that now?

Anyway, wish I would have had the chance to work with Duck. Have heard nothing but great things about him.

Just my two cents. Carry on.
 
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Revno you know in Monett the exact opposite happened, we started their youth program in 63 and by 71 Monett was able to two platoon and would win our first state title. The youth program stayed and by the 90's at one point the high school had just 30 kids out. Now it is 2017 and we have around 70 out. Out of all that the youth program has pretty much been the same.
The current mighty mite programs started around the early 90's. I know this because I was involved in the startup. "We" started a league with the mighty cubs, Miller, Aurora, Marionville and Mount Vernon.

There wasn't an organized league in PC , Monett, or anywhere else other than Marionville, which had a scrimmages during high school game's halftimes during the late 70's.

Mighty mites are a lot of fun for the parents I will admit. The kids would be a lot better off playing flag football.

You weren't even born in 1963...
 
Well have you ever spoken to the people who run your youth program? Do you guys work for the same goals are you willing to work and engage with them to help better them? Or do you talk to them and about them to their face like you are currently on this board? I work very closely with our head coach and our assistants I call them friends, they talk to me and set goals for us and tell us what they want us to teach the kids and to make sure they all play. I am always willing to do what I can to better our communication with our High school coaches. They let us come in and watch practices they are willing to always sit down and teach us anything and are willing to always answer questions. Every time we have ever gotten a new head coach I have always gone out of my way to introduce myself and find out what they expect from us and our program, and how they want us to approach them and how willing they are to work with us.

I dont work there any more. Im just telling you the facts. When we used to face SG in the mid 90s they would have huge freshmen rosters. One year they had 48. Which is giant for class 3. I am not blaming any one. The more tackle football you play prior to that the more you eliminate some kids. I would guess that is true in most areas. But I am sure there are exceptions. Its Survival of the fittest. Kids are eliminated by playing tackle.
 
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The current mighty mite programs started around the early 90's. I know this because I was involved in the startup. "We" started a league with the mighty cubs, Miller, Aurora, Marionville and Mount Vernon.

There wasn't an organized league in PC , Monett, or anywhere else other than Marionville, which had a scrimmages during high school game's halftimes during the late 70's.

Mighty mites are a lot of fun for the parents I will admit. The kids would be a lot better off playing flag football.

You weren't even born in 1963...

There has always been a Monett youth football program in some form since 1963, either we scrimmaged each other or we picked up a game/scrimmage here or there. I have talked to Jack Fox many times who started the program. I have also talked to Dr Costly who was a player in the first year. You are correct I believe there was a league formed in the 90's but Monett already had a program before that. In fact I was a player in the 70's, so I know for a fact it was started before the 90's.
 
[QUOTE="Duck_walk, post: 266820, member: 904" Kids are eliminated by playing tackle.[/QUOTE]

That is a true statement and I know it happens, not going to disagree with that.

But I will tell you this, if our High school coaches and school administration were to come to me and say hey I think we want to eliminate our youth program as we feel it is hurting our high school program I would say let's do it. I am not an over the top sort of guy, I love football and want to do what is best for our community and program, but so far the coaches and administration in our community I talk to like our program and the way we try to run it and teach the kids.
 
[QUOTE="Duck_walk, post: 266820, member: 904" Kids are eliminated by playing tackle.

That is a true statement and I know it happens, not going to disagree with that.

But I will tell you this, if our High school coaches and school administration were to come to me and say hey I think we want to eliminate our youth program as we feel it is hurting our high school program I would say let's do it. I am not an over the top sort of guy, I love football and want to do what is best for our community and program, but so far the coaches and administration in our community I talk to like our program and the way we try to run it and teach the kids.[/QUOTE]
Seems to me Webb has huge numbers out for youth football, and from looking at the fact we will have around 140 kids playing 9-12 next week must not really be an issue.

Facts are probably half of the kids playing youth football will never play on Friday nights, whats wrong with letting them play at that level and let them experience the game?

Watching our varsity coaches at Cardinal Camp working with the grade school kids it seemed to me they thought it was a good thing

Many years ago my sons WC 7th grade team was playing Joplin the first game of the year. Joplins kids had only played YMCA flag football up to that point. The poor kids from Joplin were just getting splattered and the game was stopped at halftime. Second half it became a scrimmage so Joplin coaches could be on the field and help their kids.

I cant imagine a team being competitive if they didn't play tackle football before 9th g
 
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The current mighty mite programs started around the early 90's. I know this because I was involved in the startup. "We" started a league with the mighty cubs, Miller, Aurora, Marionville and Mount Vernon.

There wasn't an organized league in PC , Monett, or anywhere else other than Marionville, which had a scrimmages during high school game's halftimes during the late 70's.

Mighty mites are a lot of fun for the parents I will admit. The kids would be a lot better off playing flag football.

You weren't even born in 1963...


I know that I played in Cassville in the early 80's and we played Monett and I want to say MV. I don't really remember who else and don't think we have many games. I don't think t was a league like it is today.
 
Both of Pierce City's youth teams will play 8 or 9 games this year. That is too many. Pretty simple really.
 
Youth football going strong in my area of suburban KC. In games I've watched, some kids want no part of contact, others do. Saying everyone is at risk is just not true.
 
Both of Pierce City's youth teams will play 8 or 9 games this year. That is too many. Pretty simple really.

I agree Revno, But I am also one that thinks they should not probable play 50 baseball or basketball games either or wrestle year round. The thing that gets me is everybody is on here complaining about football but what we do year round with the youth is peanuts compared to other sports. Where is the outrage there with other sports? I remember one dad telling me and basically bragging they had played over 100 baseball games that year....But yet said their little bodies could not handle football?
 
Kids are different today. Not saying it's bad or good, but kids are not out playing like in the past. They are inside on electronics or whatever. Kids don't need to play 50 baseball games, but they do need to play. We have kind of gotten to the point that everything has to be organized and that 's not good. Nothing beats kids going out and figuring it out on their own. Don't get me wrong the coaching and instruction are important, but it use to be that we could play 10-15 games of baseball and then the kids went and played on their own. There are a lot of kids out there that won't go outside and play catch unless it's an organized practice. Neighborhood ball has slowly dried up. I mean once a kid gets to a certain age there are still pickup games around, but you just don't see many 8, 9, 10 year old kids out playing anymore. I have had kids that have a lot of brothers and sisters with not that many means to have all the electronics and almost every time they are the best players and don't need to play 50 games because they play at home all the time. They are competing everyday.
 
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Totally agree, I think kids are not playing high school sports now because they are getting burned out earlier in all sports not just because they are playing tackle football. There are so many dads that believe hey if I can play little Johnny x amount of games before they are in high school they will be better for it.
 
Kids are different today. Not saying it's bad or good, but kids are not out playing like in the past. They are inside on electronics or whatever. Kids don't need to play 50 baseball games, but they do need to play. We have kind of gotten to the point that everything has to be organized and that 's not good. Nothing beats kids going out and figuring it out on their own. Don't get me wrong the coaching and instruction are important, but it use to be that we could play 10-15 games of baseball and then the kids went and played on their own. There are a lot of kids out there that won't go outside and play catch unless it's an organized practice. Neighborhood ball has slowly dried up. I mean once a kid gets to a certain age there are still pickup games around, but you just don't see many 8, 9, 10 year old kids out playing anymore. I have had kids that have a lot of brothers and sisters with not that many means to have all the electronics and almost every time they are the best players and don't need to play 50 games because they play at home all the time. They are competing everyday.

A typical summer day for a kid in the 1970s and 1980s: Bike 1 to 2 hours, sprint 10 to 30 meters (at least 40-50 times), hike 4 miles, 30 min to 1 hour of basketball shots, 1 hour of baseball, and on special days, tag or tackle football games 1 to 3 hours. ALL WITH NO COACHES or NO TEAMS involved.
 
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My 3rd grade grandson starts this year. I'd lot rather take him fishing. just saying.....
 
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My 3rd grade grandson starts this year. I'd lot rather take him fishing. just saying.....

I hear ya. I really dread the thought of my son wanting to play travel ball. Although it's not something I would ever hold him back from, just seems like a lot of commitment for kids. And it's almost a necessity for them now.
 
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