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If you go 8 teams pretty much have to have first round at campus sites (home of top 4 seeds). Asking CFB fan bases to travel not once but twice over the Holidays is a strain enough. Three times could hurt attendance thus that almighty dollar...............
8 teams makes too much sense. For years there was debate about the top two teams and who got left out of the big game. #3 looked as deserving as #2.
Now the same thing is going on with #4 vs the left out team or teams around #5 and #6.
But over the years it’s never seemed to be any concern about who is down there around #8 or #9.
Cut it off at 8. The Power 5 can each put one team in. 3 at large.
First four games are played at the big bowls on New Years - Sugar, Orange, Fiesta and Rose Bowls. Semi final games on January 8 at the dome in St Louis - warm and cozy inside and we need some use for it. Centrally located in the US and never any worries about a Mizzou home field advantage situation,
Championship on January 15 in Vegas at the new Raiders stadium. Cheap flights for everyone to Vegas, it’s warm, and we know the Raiders season will have ended a few weeks earlier.
Now the same thing is going on with #4 vs the left out team or teams around #5 and #6.
But over the years it’s never seemed to be any concern about who is down there around #8 or #9.
Cut it off at 8. The Power 5 can each put one team in. 3 at large.
First four games are played at the big bowls on New Years - Sugar, Orange, Fiesta and Rose Bowls. Semi final games on January 8 at the dome in St Louis - warm and cozy inside and we need some use for it. Centrally located in the US and never any worries about a Mizzou home field advantage situation,
Championship on January 15 in Vegas at the new Raiders stadium. Cheap flights for everyone to Vegas, it’s warm, and we know the Raiders season will have ended a few weeks earlier.
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Actually I think we are now bordering on SIX power leagues as the American has a number of successful programs (UCF is the most obvious). Don't get me wrong I like expanding the playoffs just wonder how they would work out the travel situation.
I think conferences should be abolished all together. teams play in 5 team pods after 4 weeks you go to a tournament with 128 team format with eliminated teams going to the backside of the bracket and playing other losing teams till they hit 10 game and the front side playing it all the way out the top 2-8 teams on the front side plus the 2 winners from the back all get a bcs bowl after they lose and you have 2 true undefeated teams going into the national championship
Agreed.
Memphis
Cincinnati
SMU
Navy
Houston (most years)
UCF
Can play with pretty much anyone.
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Notice I left out the other "power" league................the Big Notre Dame conference.
If you treated it as 8 teams with 6 conference winners, this would probably be the highest of likelihood of that tournament (in most likely match-ups):
1. Ohio State (Big 10) vs. 8 Georgia (At-Large)
4. Utah (Pac-12) vs. 5 Oklahoma (Big 12)
3 Clemson (ACC) vs. 6 Memphis (AAC)
2. LSU (SEC) vs. 7 Florida (At Large)
(This is also seeded based off of strongest-weakest Conference Champion being rewarded over non-champion, not saying Memphis is better than Florida or Georgia)
But here's a question, does a 1-loss MWC Champion like Boise State get in as an at-large over a 2 loss Florida, Georgia, Alabama, Notre Dame? What about App State with 1 loss? Probably not because the committee would still value prestige of power conference over conference champion.
1. Ohio State (Big 10) vs. 8 Georgia (At-Large)
4. Utah (Pac-12) vs. 5 Oklahoma (Big 12)
3 Clemson (ACC) vs. 6 Memphis (AAC)
2. LSU (SEC) vs. 7 Florida (At Large)
(This is also seeded based off of strongest-weakest Conference Champion being rewarded over non-champion, not saying Memphis is better than Florida or Georgia)
But here's a question, does a 1-loss MWC Champion like Boise State get in as an at-large over a 2 loss Florida, Georgia, Alabama, Notre Dame? What about App State with 1 loss? Probably not because the committee would still value prestige of power conference over conference champion.
I think Ohio St is tops, then just behind is Clemson and LSU and then everyone else. I like Oklahoma’s chance of getting in at #4 but probably will be a 10-11 pt underdog to Ohio St. A win means 5 straight Big 12 titles though which is pretty awesome.
I’ve been against it in the past but I do think the 8 team model works. My biggest concern is though it automatically reduces the value of the regular season so i’m afraid it goes to 16 teams and then the regular season loses a lot of luster.
I agree with not wanting the regular season to lose it’s luster. How about the committee is tasked with assembling a bracket each Dec 1 which includes every undefeated team plus all teams with one loss only? And to qualify with one loss, you must’ve played (or beat) at least one school from a Power 5 (or 6?) conference?
Two losses seems to always knock a team out of the conversation. So after that first loss, every remaining game will have major implications.
Use byes to round out either an 8-team or 16-spot bracket as required. First round of games could be Dec 8. If the 16 spot bracket, second round is Dec 15. No games between 12/15 and 1/1 and you have a final four around New Years Day like the current system.
Two losses seems to always knock a team out of the conversation. So after that first loss, every remaining game will have major implications.
Use byes to round out either an 8-team or 16-spot bracket as required. First round of games could be Dec 8. If the 16 spot bracket, second round is Dec 15. No games between 12/15 and 1/1 and you have a final four around New Years Day like the current system.
Slow down a minute...this OSU team would get run off the field by the 95 Huskers.
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