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What is middle class? Why dont we have a strong one?

Now who is off on a tangent? How the heck did YOU have anything to do with paying MY salary. I worked at my brother's service station when I was in high school long before you were born so you didn't buy anything there. I worked 2 years in a Rowe Furniture Factory here in P.B. also before you were born, then went to work on the MoPac RR before I turned 20. That changed to the UPRR and that's what I retired from. I'm pretty sure your tax money had NOTHING to do with MY salary EVER!!! But you're welcome for my service in maintaining the RR tracks in and around the biggest industry and tax payer in Ste. Gen. Not to mention the property taxes the RR company pays in the county where YOU went to school.
 
Originally posted by 3Rfan:
Now who is off on a tangent? How the heck did YOU have anything to do with paying MY salary. I worked at my brother's service station when I was in high school long before you were born so you didn't buy anything there. I worked 2 years in a Rowe Furniture Factory here in P.B. also before you were born, then went to work on the MoPac RR before I turned 20. That changed to the UPRR and that's what I retired from. I'm pretty sure your tax money had NOTHING to do with MY salary EVER!!! But you're welcome for my service in maintaining the RR tracks in and around the biggest industry and tax payer in Ste. Gen. Not to mention the property taxes the RR company pays in the county where YOU went to school.
Ummmm you do realize that comment was to Quacker........right?
 
Then don't mix it in with MY post that you're replying to above it. You know I had read that very post since that's the one I was replying to to begin with. YOU still claim that WE pay enough taxes to educate our kids. I assume you're including yourself in WE. None of us pay enough in school taxes to pay for our own kids education without a LOT of help from the the other taxpayers whether they have kids or not.
 
3R, can I make a request. For now on can you put which quote you're referring to in your post? Specifically the one that says I said what you're referring to. The "we pay enough" etc.
This post was edited on 2/12 6:41 AM by Drop.Tine
 
No but I can show you. Look at your post #2871 in this thread. YOU said "so we don't pay taxes that fund our kids schooling." NO! Your taxes pay a small portion of the cost of YOUR kid's education! Do you not think that statement makes it look like you think you pay enough to pay for your own kid?

This post was edited on 2/12 8:23 AM by 3Rfan
 
Originally posted by 3Rfan:
No but I can show you. Look at your post #2871 in this thread. YOU said "so we don't pay taxes that fund our kids schooling." NO! Your taxes pay a small portion of the cost of YOUR kid's education! Do you not think that statement makes it look like you think you pay enough to pay for your own kid?


This post was edited on 2/12 8:23 AM by 3Rfan
No, your reading comprehension is terrible. I did say WE. In no part did I say MY kids. Also only a small portion of our school funds come from the feds. The majority is state and local.

Good lord man, stop grasping at something that isn't there.
 
I don't know where you took history, but post World War 2 is generally referred to as the "Golden Age of Capitalism" in economic discussions.
 
So you are denying the highest tax rate in our countries history and the GI bill?
 
When did I say anything about federal taxes? Property taxes pay the freight for kids in the district you live in, yours and everybody else that has kids in school. You can bet the RR and the Lime company pay a LOT of property taxes in your old county. When I mentioned them it had NOTHING to do with federal taxes. BTW if the feds took away what schools get from them not many schools would last another year. Why do you think they are so worried about kids missing days and calling off schools for snow if they think mot many can get there? It's all about head count and $$$$$ !
 
I am saying that your theory about the economic boom post world war 2 being the result of socialism is hogwash among those that actually study and know the causes. It's not like it is a phenomenon that has not been the subject of academics and economists books and papers and lectures ever since its decline. Yours is the very first I have seen or heard of that claimed it was socialism during the Truman/Eisenhower/Kennedy/Johnson/Nixon administrations that put the U.S. in a position of world economic dominance, and yours will probably be the last.
 
Dude. You need to reread the original post.
You have gone off on another tangent like some
of the other bozos on here.

We redistributed wealth sir. Did our middle class
thrive? Uhh yea. It jump started our economy.
There was a 90% tax bracket, yet our economy
did not implode like you Fox fans always get your panties
in a wad about. Did I say it was the only factor
affecting our world standing for five presidents?
Lay off the mushrooms.

Work on reading comprehension.



This post was edited on 2/12 7:04 PM by Duck_walk
 
Originally posted by Duck_walk:
Dude. You need to reread the original post.
You have gone off on another tangent like some
of the other bozos on here.

We redistributed wealth sir. Did our middle class
thrive? Uhh yea. It jump started our economy.
There was a 90% tax bracket, yet our economy
did not implode like you Fox fans always get your panties
in a wad about. Did I say it was the only factor
affecting our world standing for five presidents?
Lay off the mushrooms.

Work on reading comprehension.




This post was edited on 2/12 7:04 PM by Duck_walk
See you have no claim to people not having a real conversation. With me, sure, you have a point. He countered your original claim with a pretty well thought out post and instead of citing sources and providing facts you resort to a childish retort. Which is why I will never have an actual discussion on here with you. It's pretty pointless.

So keep on being a hypocrite.
 
Originally posted by Drop.Tine:
Originally posted by Duck_walk:
Dude. You need to reread the original post.
You have gone off on another tangent like some
of the other bozos on here.

We redistributed wealth sir. Did our middle class
thrive? Uhh yea. It jump started our economy.
There was a 90% tax bracket, yet our economy
did not implode like you Fox fans always get your panties
in a wad about. Did I say it was the only factor
affecting our world standing for five presidents?
Lay off the mushrooms.

Work on reading comprehension.




This post was edited on 2/12 7:04 PM by Duck_walk
He countered your original claim with a pretty well thought out post and instead of citing sources and providing facts you resort to a childish retort. Which is why I will never have an actual discussion on here with you. It's pretty pointless.

So keep on being a hypocrite.
Wow.

Just wow.
 
Originally posted by Duck_walk:
Dude. You need to reread the original post.
You have gone off on another tangent like some
of the other bozos on here.

We redistributed wealth sir. Did our middle class
thrive? Uhh yea. It jump started our economy.
There was a 90% tax bracket, yet our economy
did not implode like you Fox fans always get your panties
in a wad about. Did I say it was the only factor
affecting our world standing for five presidents?
Lay off the mushrooms.

Work on reading comprehension.




This post was edited on 2/12 7:04 PM by Duck_walk
Is it maybe, just maybe, the expansion of capitalism(more and better paying jobs) created the strong middle class?
 
3R:
It's true that I don't pay enough in property or state taxes this year to pay for my kids education. I continue to pay those taxes long after and before he gets that education though. In aggregate, I DO pay enough in taxes to cover the cost of education. Add in that I then pay for a private education to get the quality education he needs in todays world and don't get back what I paid for the education he doesn't get in the public school, and I pay for his education and more twice!
 
Dude, here is what you said:
How did our economy get such a strong middle class after WWII?
The answer is pretty simple. For a period of time we moved toward socialism
to redistribute the wealth. Tax rates for top incomes reached 90%.
They passed the GI bill and a lot of folks got college educations
(Think Obama's free community college). As a veteran, my dad was able to buy a
house with a mortgage rate that was under 2%. Unions were strong.
We redistributed wealth. Plain and simple.

Dude: Here is what those that really know their sh+ say about post WW2 economic policy:

http://www.romeconomics.com/the-bretton-woods-system/

or for a more complete explanation here is a film:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBit5OSewco



That is not a tangent, my comment was meant to help direct you to educate yourself about what really caused the post war economic growth, but I guess you missed it in favor of posting a "dude, you you are a bozo" and a "fox fan" comment. I just like to know what I am talking about before I speak. Is it your habit to personally attack people who disagree with you?
 
Originally posted by Black&Gold82:



Originally posted by Duck_walk:
Dude. You need to reread the original post.
You have gone off on another tangent like some
of the other bozos on here.

We redistributed wealth sir. Did our middle class
thrive? Uhh yea. It jump started our economy.
There was a 90% tax bracket, yet our economy
did not implode like you Fox fans always get your panties
in a wad about. Did I say it was the only factor
affecting our world standing for five presidents?
Lay off the mushrooms.

Work on reading comprehension.





This post was edited on 2/12 7:04 PM by Duck_walk
Is it maybe, just maybe, the expansion of capitalism(more and better paying jobs) created the strong middle class?
Really? You don't see the value of a 90% tax rate?
 
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