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Gubba Bump Shrimp

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More than 800,000 Americans have signed a petition demanding the release of Donald Trump’s tax returns. Polls show that a majority of the country wants to see the documents.

On April 15, tens of thousands plan to take to the streets in protest of the president’s refusal to release his tax returns to the public. Some worry Trump is hiding financial ties to Russia. Others want to understand all the conflicts of interest that flow from his failure to divest from his business interests. Twenty thousand people say they’re going to a Los Angeles protest. Eleven thousand are signed up to attend in New York City. Folks will protest in Boise, Indianapolis, St. Louis, Raleigh, Pittsburgh, Knoxville, Salt Lake City, and other municipalities throughout the U.S.

And this week, the movement got a new champion and 23 new targets for ire.

The champion is Represenative Bill Pascrell, who sits on the Ways and Means Committee. He found that “a rarely invoked 1924 law could be used to examine President Donald Trump's tax returns for possible conflicts of interest and Constitutional violations,” USA Todayreported. “The 1924 law gives congressional committees that set tax policy the power to examine tax returns. It was used in 1974 when Congress looked at President Richard Nixon's returns, and in 2014 when the Ways and Means Committee released confidential tax information as part of its investigation into the Internal Revenue Service's handling of applications for nonprofit status

This prompted Democrats on the committee to introduce an amendment Tuesday that would’ve triggered a request for the tax returns to the Treasury Department. “Unless this amendment is adopted, we will never see the president's tax returns while he's in office,” Representative Sander Levin told his Republican colleagues. “Before you stonewall this, I urge you to think twice. You'll only keep the issue alive.”

Last year, after some of Trump’s worrying foreign conflicts were exposed, I argued that Congress cannot fulfill its constitutional duty to check and balance the next president, or provide adequate oversight of the federal agencies he presides over, without a full, accurate understanding of his business holdings and debts. I urged Americans to tell their representatives that they favor an exhaustive inquiry into Trump’s finances to determine exactly where his interests and ours diverge.

The amendment was rejected on a party-line vote by these 23 Republicans (the ones with asterisks next to their names represent relatively competitive districts; the others are thought to be in “safe seats” for the GOP, and only vulnerable in primaries):

  1. Kevin Brady of Texas
  2. Sam Johnson of Texas
  3. Devin Nunes of California
  4. Pat Tiberi of Ohio
  5. Dave Reichert of Washington*
  6. Peter Roskam of Illinois*
  7. Vern Buchanan of Florida
  8. Adrian Smith of Nebraska
  9. Lynn Jenkins of Kansas
  10. Erik Paulsen of Minnesota*
  11. Kenny Marchant of Texas
  12. Diane Black of Tennessee
  13. Tom Reed of New York
  14. Mike Kelly of Pennsylvania
  15. Jim Renacci of Ohio
  16. Pat Meehan of Pennsylvania*
  17. Kristi Noem of South Dakota
  18. George Holding of North Carolina
  19. Jason Smith of Missouri
  20. Tom Rice of South Carolina
  21. David Schweikert of Arizona
  22. Jackie Walorski of Indiana
  23. Carlos Curbelo of Florida*
The vote could come back to haunt these legislators if the tax returns eventually come to light and reveal something that American voters feel they should’ve known, especially given the weak rationale offered by Republicans in defense of the vote.



“If Congress begins to use its powers to rummage around in the tax returns of the president, what prevents Congress from doing the same to average Americans?” House Ways and Means Committee Chairman Kevin Brady told reporters, according to CNBC. “Privacy and civil liberties are still important rights in this country, and the Ways and Means Committee is not going to start to weaken them.”

This strikes me as wildly unpersuasive. First, the law was reportedly used decades ago in the special case of a corrupt president and no slippery slope seems to have been stepped on. Second, a bright-line question easily presents itself to keep Ways and Means off that slope: “Do we have a Constitutional responsibility to check, balance, and oversee the person whose tax return we are requesting?” That ought to be sufficient to protect “average Americans.” Third, how many “average Americans” would even care if Ways and Means pulled their tax return, which consists of information they’re already forced to give the federal government? Fourth, there are about six dozen steps congressional Republicans could take to end privacy abrogations that are orders of magnitude more intrusive than a remote threat of a future Congress voting to look at one’s tax returns! Take ending the NSA program that collects details on the private communications of almost everyone.

The president of the United States is the most powerful person in the world. For that reason alone, he or she has the least expectation of privacy of any American citizen. Tax returns are documents that every modern president has released to the public. And financial ties and relationships bear directly on Trump’s official duties, particularly due to his failure to fully divest himself from his businesses. Meanwhile, multiple allies of the president have suspicious ties to a foreign government.

Given all that context, it is obscene for members of Congress to eschew a lawful way to examine the president’s tax returns and make sure that he isn’t selling out America.

They should be judged harshly by voters and history alike
 
Blow it out your arse, you make less than 60K a year, your wife has a real job. WTF would you know about a diverse portfolio of a billionaire.
 
I don't expect him to ever release his tax returns if he can avoid it.

Even though he said he would.

Just another in the many lies Trump has told.
 
Such inquiries should be conducted in an orderly and chronological manner, starting with the transcripts of Obama's alleged educational attainments.
 
Yes, this POS, who more than likely went to school on the taxpayer's dime, wants to ride righteous on Donald Trump's financial disclosure. What a pee are eye see kay. Not only this, he's paid by taxpayers money under the guise of educating children.

Yes my parents couldn't afford private school, wish I had taken a certain Ladue area private school up on their offer to allow me to attend on "work-study", as it is I did fine. Served my country (unlike Trump) and paid my own way through college.

My folks didn't have a small loan of a million dollars...you know, not "self made" like Trump, fortunately my wife and I make enough to send my kids to private school.

If I were president or running for president, I would have no issue disclosing my taxes, because I have nothing to hide...which is of course the point of this thread.

If you want to discuss the content of the article I'm all ears. If you want to personally attack me, I will simply stop responding to you.

Find it funny that you and fisthimself haven't posted since I quit posting and I post one thing and magically (troll magic if you will...) you both show up to bash me.

I sincerely wish the moderators paid any attention to the threads, you both would have been blacklisted a long time ago.
 
Did YOU pay for it? Because if not, YOU couldn't afford it either...
Again, not at all the point of this thread. But keep trolling if it makes you feel better.

Gubba you need to get over wanting every post to be about ... "the point of the thread".
NO ONE CARES!

Have you not already figured out that this site is more about the poster getting his or her point across than it is about hearing another's posters point of view?

Democrats talk Leftist propaganda, Conservatives talk Right Wing ideology, and Independents talk all of the above, just not as openly or passionate .

Again!!!
Have fun with this board but don't take it to serious, no one in "real" politics cares.
 
Did you say something?
Do you know who you are talking to?

Fine, pretend your Harry Reid .
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If I put you on ignore, who will respond to you? I saw you slowly losing your mind while I was gone...posting the exact same thing 7 times in an attention seeking endeavor, trying anything you could do to get a reaction...pathetic.
 
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If I put you on ignore, who will respond to you? I saw you slowly losing your mind while I was gone...posting the exact same thing 7 times in an attention seeking endeavor, trying anything you could do to get a reaction...pathetic.

Say hi to Nancy for me...
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More than 800,000 Americans have signed a petition demanding the release of Donald Trump’s tax returns. Polls show that a majority of the country wants to see the documents.

On April 15, tens of thousands plan to take to the streets in protest of the president’s refusal to release his tax returns to the public. Some worry Trump is hiding financial ties to Russia. Others want to understand all the conflicts of interest that flow from his failure to divest from his business interests. Twenty thousand people say they’re going to a Los Angeles protest. Eleven thousand are signed up to attend in New York City. Folks will protest in Boise, Indianapolis, St. Louis, Raleigh, Pittsburgh, Knoxville, Salt Lake City, and other municipalities throughout the U.S.

And this week, the movement got a new champion and 23 new targets for ire.

The champion is Represenative Bill Pascrell, who sits on the Ways and Means Committee. He found that “a rarely invoked 1924 law could be used to examine President Donald Trump's tax returns for possible conflicts of interest and Constitutional violations,” USA Todayreported. “The 1924 law gives congressional committees that set tax policy the power to examine tax returns. It was used in 1974 when Congress looked at President Richard Nixon's returns, and in 2014 when the Ways and Means Committee released confidential tax information as part of its investigation into the Internal Revenue Service's handling of applications for nonprofit status

This prompted Democrats on the committee to introduce an amendment Tuesday that would’ve triggered a request for the tax returns to the Treasury Department. “Unless this amendment is adopted, we will never see the president's tax returns while he's in office,” Representative Sander Levin told his Republican colleagues. “Before you stonewall this, I urge you to think twice. You'll only keep the issue alive.”

Last year, after some of Trump’s worrying foreign conflicts were exposed, I argued that Congress cannot fulfill its constitutional duty to check and balance the next president, or provide adequate oversight of the federal agencies he presides over, without a full, accurate understanding of his business holdings and debts. I urged Americans to tell their representatives that they favor an exhaustive inquiry into Trump’s finances to determine exactly where his interests and ours diverge.

The amendment was rejected on a party-line vote by these 23 Republicans (the ones with asterisks next to their names represent relatively competitive districts; the others are thought to be in “safe seats” for the GOP, and only vulnerable in primaries):

  1. Kevin Brady of Texas
  2. Sam Johnson of Texas
  3. Devin Nunes of California
  4. Pat Tiberi of Ohio
  5. Dave Reichert of Washington*
  6. Peter Roskam of Illinois*
  7. Vern Buchanan of Florida
  8. Adrian Smith of Nebraska
  9. Lynn Jenkins of Kansas
  10. Erik Paulsen of Minnesota*
  11. Kenny Marchant of Texas
  12. Diane Black of Tennessee
  13. Tom Reed of New York
  14. Mike Kelly of Pennsylvania
  15. Jim Renacci of Ohio
  16. Pat Meehan of Pennsylvania*
  17. Kristi Noem of South Dakota
  18. George Holding of North Carolina
  19. Jason Smith of Missouri
  20. Tom Rice of South Carolina
  21. David Schweikert of Arizona
  22. Jackie Walorski of Indiana
  23. Carlos Curbelo of Florida*
The vote could come back to haunt these legislators if the tax returns eventually come to light and reveal something that American voters feel they should’ve known, especially given the weak rationale offered by Republicans in defense of the vote.



“If Congress begins to use its powers to rummage around in the tax returns of the president, what prevents Congress from doing the same to average Americans?” House Ways and Means Committee Chairman Kevin Brady told reporters, according to CNBC. “Privacy and civil liberties are still important rights in this country, and the Ways and Means Committee is not going to start to weaken them.”

This strikes me as wildly unpersuasive. First, the law was reportedly used decades ago in the special case of a corrupt president and no slippery slope seems to have been stepped on. Second, a bright-line question easily presents itself to keep Ways and Means off that slope: “Do we have a Constitutional responsibility to check, balance, and oversee the person whose tax return we are requesting?” That ought to be sufficient to protect “average Americans.” Third, how many “average Americans” would even care if Ways and Means pulled their tax return, which consists of information they’re already forced to give the federal government? Fourth, there are about six dozen steps congressional Republicans could take to end privacy abrogations that are orders of magnitude more intrusive than a remote threat of a future Congress voting to look at one’s tax returns! Take ending the NSA program that collects details on the private communications of almost everyone.

The president of the United States is the most powerful person in the world. For that reason alone, he or she has the least expectation of privacy of any American citizen. Tax returns are documents that every modern president has released to the public. And financial ties and relationships bear directly on Trump’s official duties, particularly due to his failure to fully divest himself from his businesses. Meanwhile, multiple allies of the president have suspicious ties to a foreign government.

Given all that context, it is obscene for members of Congress to eschew a lawful way to examine the president’s tax returns and make sure that he isn’t selling out America.

They should be judged harshly by voters and history alike
Snowflakes can DEMAND all they want. Trump isn't required by law to release his taxes, he is just giving the finger to the entire liberal nation. He could give a damn how many liberal idiots march and sign petitions.

Screw all of you people
 
Snowflakes can DEMAND all they want. Trump isn't required by law to release his taxes, he is just giving the finger to the entire liberal nation. He could give a damn how many liberal idiots march and sign petitions.
Screw all of you people

800,000 signatures ... WoW!
That means of the 309,349,689 Americans...

308,549,689 Americans
did not sign.
WHAT A MANDATE ! ! !
 
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Snowflakes can DEMAND all they want. Trump isn't required by law to release his taxes, he is just giving the finger to the entire liberal nation. He could give a damn how many liberal idiots march and sign petitions.

Screw all of you people

Screw you too.
 
Snowflakes can DEMAND all they want. Trump isn't required by law to release his taxes, he is just giving the finger to the entire liberal nation. He could give a damn how many liberal idiots march and sign petitions.

Screw all of you people
If this was clinton you would be losing your mind
 
I don't care if he makes millions off inside information, gives California to Russia and gets a blow job in the Oval Office every morning from little Jewish girls. At the very least, he's building a wall and saying screw you liberals.
 
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Oh, your on ignore. My posts are a need to know basis.
 
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I don't care if he makes millions off inside information, gives California to Russia and gets a blow job in the Oval Office every morning from little Jewish girls. At the very least, he's building a wall and saying screw you liberals.

Cant say I agree with much of that but the skit needs turned into SNL...funny :p

Making the libs build the wall on the Southern side however sounds great to me. When their finished they can apply for a Green Card. :cool:
 
Cant say I agree with much of that but the skit needs turned into SNL...funny :p

Making the libs build the wall on the Southern side however sounds great to me. When their finished they can apply for a Green Card. :cool:

14th Amendment...you should try reading it...not that you care about the constitution...
 
I can still read your posts moron.

I love how you think putting me on ignore is a punishment.
I don't feel punished when I'm put on ignore, either does another poster. Please rail against the universe in a meaningful way. Try drinking bleach or a method more direct, relieving us from your voice. You're bothersome to America in a very ill way.
 
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The best part of butt shrimp ended up on the motel wall. Can't stand his posts. What a moron.
 
Tell F stick boy his wife is butt ugly, and his children are doomed to ignorance.

Gee that should get a response. A year ago I just mentioned the word family in a post, not even referring to his and he went Madonna on me.

I guess you already know that a Politically Incorrect post like that could end your friendship...:rolleyes:
 
I don't feel punished when I'm put on ignore, either does another poster. Please rail against the universe in a meaningful way. Try drinking bleach or a method more direct, relieving us from your voice. You're bothersome to America in a very ill way.

Tell F stick boy his wife is butt ugly, and his children are doomed to ignorance.

The best part of butt shrimp ended up on the motel wall. Can't stand his posts. What a moron.

The fact that Larry, Curly, and Shemp (FistOH isn't good enough to be Moe) think I'm an idiot means I'm definitely doing something right.

Carry on dipsh!ts.
 
What Trump does with his tax returns is no different than mine. THEY ARE MINE! He can release them if he wants but I couldn't care less what is in them. Same with Hillary, Bill, Barrack, and Gump.
 
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