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What gaffe will cost Trump the nomination?

There is no substantive voter fraud in the US. Eric Holder was 100% right that the purpose of these laws is to disenfranchise people.

It would be one thing for the Rs to put forth a package of "modernized voting" that included a mix of features designed to move voting into the 21st century. I support that idea. Our voting system is pretty archaic and it could be done better in a number of ways. That's not what they are doing - every single change is about making it harder to register to vote or to actually vote.
I like what you're saying. But from what I've experienced, I don't want the disenfranchised people to make the calls. There in is the reason I am not a liberal.
 
There's a reason why the Rep. have a small base. I'm not convinced that makes them wrong.
My position is less that the Rs have a narrow base and more that outsider R candidates tend to sit in the far right of the party. This makes them less capable of uniting the country
 
I like what you're saying. But from what I've experienced, I don't want the disenfranchised people to make the calls. There in is the reason I am not a liberal.
I don't necessarily want that either, but part of living in democracy is accepting that you only have one vote
 
I guarantee that Hillary picked up some votes today. She took on every question for 9 hours and didn't blink. The Pubs did more for her campaign in 9 hours than she could do for herself the rest of the way. They tried with one gotcha question after another and never got her to break a sweat.
 
There's a reason why the Rep. have a small base. I'm not convinced that makes them wrong.
Maybe one of you guys that know more about politics and congressional rules than I do can explain something to me. How is it that the rules of the house and senate allow ONE person to decide what gets a vote and what doesn't? And how is it in this, the 21st century, we have a guy running for speaker that has to agree NOT to bring anything up for a floor vote that doesn't have the support of a majority of his caucus, in this case republicans? Why is it even legal to do such a thing when there is bill that is supported by a majority of the house, or senate, but not by a majority of one party, is not allowed to get to the floor for a vote. Surely the founders did not intend it to be this way.
 
To be honest, and I didn't really study the situation, but I never understood the problem with the voter ID deal. Now, granted, I live in a rural area but I've had to show my ID every time I voted. Walk into the polling place, usually the same lady working there that I've known for over 20 years that lives down the road from me, she calls me by name, asks how the wife, kids are doing, etc. then asks if I have my ID. Give her my ID and she actually looks closely at it and checks me off the rolls. Then I get to vote. Actually one time I left my wallet in the vehicle and had to walk back out to get it to show my ID to her.

I'm sure there is something I'm missing here but it really doesn't seem to be a problem to me. Is it just the cost of getting an ID if you don't have a driver's license?
 
To be honest, and I didn't really study the situation, but I never understood the problem with the voter ID deal. Now, granted, I live in a rural area but I've had to show my ID every time I voted. Walk into the polling place, usually the same lady working there that I've known for over 20 years that lives down the road from me, she calls me by name, asks how the wife, kids are doing, etc. then asks if I have my ID. Give her my ID and she actually looks closely at it and checks me off the rolls. Then I get to vote. Actually one time I left my wallet in the vehicle and had to walk back out to get it to show my ID to her.

I'm sure there is something I'm missing here but it really doesn't seem to be a problem to me. Is it just the cost of getting an ID if you don't have a driver's license?
I'm with you on this one. I'll bet the same people complaining about this have to show some kind of ID for many things they do or buy. What I wonder is how in the heck can you vote by mail in many states? that's just asking for some kind of voter fraud that would be nearly impossible to prove. how could anyone know who did the voting on that ballot?
 
To be honest, and I didn't really study the situation, but I never understood the problem with the voter ID deal. Now, granted, I live in a rural area but I've had to show my ID every time I voted. Walk into the polling place, usually the same lady working there that I've known for over 20 years that lives down the road from me, she calls me by name, asks how the wife, kids are doing, etc. then asks if I have my ID. Give her my ID and she actually looks closely at it and checks me off the rolls. Then I get to vote. Actually one time I left my wallet in the vehicle and had to walk back out to get it to show my ID to her.

I'm sure there is something I'm missing here but it really doesn't seem to be a problem to me. Is it just the cost of getting an ID if you don't have a driver's license?

In the big cities, especially on the eastern seaboard like New York, Baltimore, Philadelphia, it makes no sense to own a car if you live in the urban center. Traffic is always congested, parking is seldom free, and every thing you need is right around the corner or a few stops away on public transit. Because of this, there aren't likely any DMV offices in the inner city. To get a non-driver ID you must first, go and pay for a copy of your birth certificate from the hospital, health department, county clerk or wherever, take your proof that you are you and find a DMV and wait in line.

Even if the ID is free, the proof that you isn't. If you are employed that is also lost time and wages for missing work to be voter eligible (tell your boss you need time off to go to the DMV)

Most of the people this affects are minorities that tend to vote Democratic.
 
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Forcing someone to pay for a voter ID is the equivalent of a poll tax. Making it as difficult as possible for poor people to vote is among their goals.
 
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Forcing someone to pay for a voter ID is the equivalent of a poll tax. Making it as difficult as possible for poor people to vote is among their goals.
I have to pay for my drivers license. If you don't want to vote bad enough to go to all the trouble you guys make it out to be to get an ID then you most likely won't vote 90% of the time anyway.
 
I have to pay for my drivers license. If you don't want to vote bad enough to go to all the trouble you guys make it out to be to get an ID then you most likely won't vote 90% of the time anyway.

We can only hope that those people who can't be bothered with the responsibility of becoming registered voters.......do not get to pick the leader of the free world. They do not deserve to.
 
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I have to pay for my drivers license. If you don't want to vote bad enough to go to all the trouble you guys make it out to be to get an ID then you most likely won't vote 90% of the time anyway.

Yea great. Let's force an old handicapped woman to run all over town or she can't vote.
 
Someone has to take her to get groceries, to the doctor AND to go vote if she's in that kind of shape.

Bingo.
There is no reason to not ensure the validity of elections. I must have missed where voter IDs weren't free. I don't think anyone in favor of voter IDs would oppose any measures to make it happen without hassle. I bet we can get the county clerks office to go to her home if needed.
 
Bingo.
There is no reason to not ensure the validity of elections. I must have missed where voter IDs weren't free. I don't think anyone in favor of voter IDs would oppose any measures to make it happen without hassle. I bet we can get the county clerks office to go to her home if needed.
They intentionally write the laws to make them hassles to keep people from voting.
 
I have to pay for my drivers license. If you don't want to vote bad enough to go to all the trouble you guys make it out to be to get an ID then you most likely won't vote 90% of the time anyway.
The cost of a drivers license is considered a poll tax. States are required to offer a free form of ID to voters if they want to mandate IDs.
 
Bingo.
There is no reason to not ensure the validity of elections. I must have missed where voter IDs weren't free. I don't think anyone in favor of voter IDs would oppose any measures to make it happen without hassle. I bet we can get the county clerks office to go to her home if needed.
No one wants fraudulent elections but we have to acknowledge that there is substantively no real voter fraud in the US that is prevented by mandating IDs. It's all about keeping people from voting.
 
  1. There is no voter fraud in the United States.
  2. Making people purchase something to vote is, by definition, a poll tax.
  3. Republicans have admitted voter ID laws are purposely disenfranchising probable democratic voters.
Democrats should mercilessly attack republicans for trying to neuter one of the greatest laws in American history: the Voting Rights Act. Proponents of republicans' stances on voting rights are morally wrong.
 
  1. There is no voter fraud in the United States.
  2. Making people purchase something to vote is, by definition, a poll tax.
  3. Republicans have admitted voter ID laws are purposely disenfranchising probable democratic voters.
Democrats should mercilessly attack republicans for trying to neuter one of the greatest laws in American history: the Voting Rights Act. Proponents of republicans' stances on voting rights are morally wrong.
The voting rights act attack is a huge winner for ds with black voters.
 
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