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MSHSAA just put out a statement allowing schools that can't compete in fall sports to move to the spring.
 
Looks like even if you start in the fall and have to shut down you can request to play in the spring. So we might end up with everyone playing in the spring anyway.
 
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This is going to go over well, you have some conferences that have teams in different counties. Some practicing and some teams are not. Those practicing may have to make a choice to stop and play in the spring if there other conference members want to play a spring season. I wish MSHSAA would just make a decision one way or another and get everyone doing the same thing. Seems like an attempt to put all decisions on local school districts and wash there hands of everything.
 
My guess is very few schools (especially rural) will see this option and pivot to spring football all of a sudden. It would require the hammer on the whole season to come down from MSHSAA.
 
My guess is very few schools (especially rural) will see this option and pivot to spring football all of a sudden. It would require the hammer on the whole season to come down from MSHSAA.
Jeff city wont allow them to shut things down unless it gets really bad
 
Why in the he'll would you go spring. No championship, if we have one this year. You might only be able to schedule a few schools and they could be in bfe. I don't see schools saying well this school in our conference can't go so we will shut it down to play them later. It will be next man up. State has no balls. You can't always get to play.
 
Guessing this is intended for other sports more than football, particularly girls softball which has both a fall and spring championship to begin with.
 
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We will see. Wyandotte County in Kansas just shut down all moderate to high risk non professional sports. If Jackson County follows suit, that would give schools a chance to play in the Spring. The suburban conference covers 27 schools across 4 counties with the majority in Jackson County. If it shut downs it shuts down the conference and a large chunk of 5A and 6A football. Throw in St. Louis and I would be surprised if 5A and 6A football isn’t all forced to move to Spring. The move MSHSAA made today in my mind makes that inevitable because it gave schools an alternative.
 
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Teachers.... wear a mask... .
 
Do the COVID numbers reflect the 80-90% of asymptomatics? Those number drop dramatically when they are calculated in.

The answer is--they don't. The numbers on the right of the column only reflect the percentage of those sick enough to get tested and proven to have covid. But DOES NOT account for the asymptomatic Population. You can reduce those by a factor of 4 or 5 for the Covid side.
 
The plan is to play for championships in the fall, alternative fall, spring and alternative spring.
 
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I just want to pull my hair out this is so maddening. Not just this specific thing but the whole thing. I guess their aim to to let kids play when their district says they can and not leave anyone out. Let the more rural areas do their thing. Let the areas with more testing and cases and authoritarian leadership put in restrictions to their hearts content. There won't be any legitimate champions but at least games will be played. I guess that's the idea?

Please dear 'rona just F*(@#( going away already.
 
If we get to have both fall and alt. fall champions, Mosports will blow up next spring over who the real champ is.
 
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I mean, my school could win their first title in something other than cheerleading.

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Asterisks be damned, I'm all in.
In my admittedly redneck world, cheer doesn't count. Sorry. You come up with a new name yet? I still love Jurgen Kloss 2020.
 
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The answer is--they don't. The numbers on the right of the column only reflect the percentage of those sick enough to get tested and proven to have covid. But DOES NOT account for the asymptomatic Population. You can reduce those by a factor of 4 or 5 for the Covid side.
Every disease has asymptomatics and mildly symptomatic people who don't get sick enough to go to the doctor and get tested. Between 95 & 99% of polio cases are asymptomatic, for example.

If you're going to make an adjustment for the denominator on the COVID side, you would also need to do that for the people on the Flu side who weren't tested, either.
 
I can’t remember college teams feeling the need to have players get an EKG, troponin blood test, echocardiogram, and cardiac MRI before being allowed to return from the flu.
That's right. Comparisons between the two are beyond asinine.
 
Every disease has asymptomatics and mildly symptomatic people who don't get sick enough to go to the doctor and get tested. Between 95 & 99% of polio cases are asymptomatic, for example.

If you're going to make an adjustment for the denominator on the COVID side, you would also need to do that for the people on the Flu side who weren't tested, either.

Every major case study with more than 3,000 samples, has shown COVID to have 80% to 95% of cases be asymptomatic. What is the flu's rate of asymptomatics?
 
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So Spring sports have the option to play in the spring in conjunction with Fall sports that decide to move to Spring. So how many baseball players or track athletes will choose not to play football and vice versa. Could take away some football skill positions. If baseball decides to play late spring into summer, how will travel ball affect the HS season? How many dual coaches will decide to just want to coach one sport now? How many kids will now feel like they need to pick 1 sport? What about finding enough officials/umpires if fall and spring sports play the same season? Are spring sports coaches going to get compensated for working into the the middle of summer? What about transportation...more teams playing and being required to social distance on buses...are there enough drivers and buses? If spring sports play in summer how will that effect the upcoming fall sports and there workouts/7on7/camps. I can go on, but moving a entire fall season and condensing all sports basically from November-July is crazy. the 3 sport athlete will be done, and possibly the 2 sport athlete with his model. I wonder how many coaches across the state were notified about about the ripple effect it could bring with schedule. Where was the energy and effort in late spring to provide a alternative season for spring sports that lost a entire season? If fall sports cannot happen due to health department regulations, shut it down and move on to the next season, there will be too much negative residual effects imo.
 
So Spring sports have the option to play in the spring in conjunction with Fall sports that decide to move to Spring. So how many baseball players or track athletes will choose not to play football and vice versa. Could take away some football skill positions. If baseball decides to play late spring into summer, how will travel ball affect the HS season? How many dual coaches will decide to just want to coach one sport now? How many kids will now feel like they need to pick 1 sport? What about finding enough officials/umpires if fall and spring sports play the same season? Are spring sports coaches going to get compensated for working into the the middle of summer? What about transportation...more teams playing and being required to social distance on buses...are there enough drivers and buses? If spring sports play in summer how will that effect the upcoming fall sports and there workouts/7on7/camps. I can go on, but moving a entire fall season and condensing all sports basically from November-July is crazy. the 3 sport athlete will be done, and possibly the 2 sport athlete with his model. I wonder how many coaches across the state were notified about about the ripple effect it could bring with schedule. Where was the energy and effort in late spring to provide a alternative season for spring sports that lost a entire season? If fall sports cannot happen due to health department regulations, shut it down and move on to the next season, there will be too much negative residual effects imo.

I'm sure MSHSAA will be willing to type a well thought out response, providing exact answers to your concerns and much more.....
 
Feeces, the state can't clarify feeces. I'm waiting to see if it happens. This year I've decided not to worry or try to plan to far ahead. It will be such a fuster cluck if this goes and spring sports will get screwed again.
 
Looks like Michigan is the latest state to move football to spring. Announced this afternoon.
 
How on earth will they assign classes if they are going to have two seasons? I’m sure MSHSAA has a plan...
 
Classes are determined by the new enrollment rule this year. I would assume then that the largest school playing this fall will determine class structure. Do not bet the farm on that.
 
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