Trump Jr,,,Jared,,Ivanca,,,Barron all cleared
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Maybe you have forgotten that many of the Mueller investigations were handed off to different federal jurisdictions because they didn't fit what Mueller was looking at, even though you guys hollered about his overreach. The SDNY is looking at the money side of Trump's family and businesses, there is another in Virginia and one in DC that are far from over. I've said for many months if they follow the money that's where it could get dicey for the Trumps. If it's all over and nothing to see why did Mueller just the other day ask fro another 60 days before Flynn sentencing because he STILL cooperating on SEVERAL investigations? They are just gettin started on the stuff Cohen has given them.
This witchhunt...I mean investigated, has lasted 3 years, if he hasnt found anything by now, he's not going to.
Saturday March 23, the Morning President Trump can go play a round of golf and tell every Democrat to go get screwed
22 months = 1 year and 10 months. You said three years (36 months). Exaggerate much?
Playing golf again ... “I’ll be too busy to ever get to a golf course.” Promises made, promises kept?
Yeah, that’s a bit more accurate. You were starting to sound like our beloved president.
Sorry I didn't care enough about a huge waste of time and money to research the exact timeframe and just guesstimated. Didn't realize this thread would be under review on Capitol Hill...
The cost thang is out the window. With fines and forfeitures Mueller has made money for the treasury.
Kinda like the years spent on Bengazi? We'll see if was ALL a big lie when the SDNY monad others get done with their investigations into Trump's family and businesses. Surely you remember all the stuff he handed off to them, and then came Cohen's testimony before congress. You can dispense with "he's an admitted liar stuff, he has provided phone records, text message and emails. May be a big deal and it may not, but most certainly ain't over for the criminal issues.
Absolutely were a waste of time. We spent 30 million dollars to get guilty pleas on crap that had absolutely nothing to do with the Trump campaign attempting to partner with Putin to win the election
Having top level people in the Justice Dept and FBI conspiring to overthrow the legitimate president of the United States is the crime that needs people in prison
Let me see if I understand this correctly ... if I’m being investigated on suspicion of robbing a bank, and evidence comes to light during this investigation that you and I , both, may have robbed two other banks and Joe Blow paid us to do so ... ignore everything else and just charge me with the original heist? Is that what you’re saying?
If the "crimes" committed were non election stealing related, why did we have an investigation on Russian election tampering involving the President?
This is the equivalent of looking for drugs during a traffic stop and finding a couple sticks of firewood that crossed state borders.
This is the equivalent of looking for drugs during a traffic stop and finding a couple sticks of firewood that crossed state borders.
Because the president himself told Lester Holt he fired Comey for “the Trump-Russer thing.” Casting a suspicious net over a possible obstruction of justice situation.
I’m sure you know that whatever is in Mueller’s report is just the tip of the iceberg in terms of possible wrongdoing. Mueller has handed off many leads to the SDNY, Virginia and DC. The president and his family could all be in some deep doggy doo-doo yet.
You have selective hearing. Trump said no such thing. Even if he did it’s within the presidents power to fire anyone in the Executive branch who is not a career employee at any time that he wishes
You haven’t seen/heard his interview with Lester Holt? I’m sure it’s somewhere on YouTube. Just type in “Trump/Holt interview.” You can hear it yourself.
Ask Manafort if his sentence is anything of “substance.” And he has gotten off easy in my opinion.
His campaign chair gave internal polling data to a guy connected to Russia intelligence. I have NO idea how that isn't considered collusion. Since most said collusion is not a crime I don't why that was said to be the basis of the investigation but what on earth would that guy even want with the polling data if not to help in the Russian plan to interfere with our election? THAT is something we KNOW happened and it seems with some help from Manafort.
Once again the investigation came out in the black and then some with fines and forfeitures on Manafort. Flynn was as dirty as it gets and he had access to top secret briefings for 3 weeks after Trump was told he was compromised. He is still cooperating in 'several investigations' so Mueller asked for his sentencing be postponed for another two months. I wonder what investigations that could be?
Republicans are gloating. Democrats are despondent. If there’s a common thread among reactions to the first glimpse into the Mueller report, it’s a sense that it was much ado about nothing.
But the Mueller investigation was necessary and well worth the cost, no matter what the outcome. Deputy attorney general Rod Rosenstein appointed Robert Mueller special counsel on May 17, 2017 with a specific purpose: To determine what role Russian interference played in the 2016 presidential election.
President Trump has repeatedly mischaracterized the Mueller inquiry as a “witch hunt.” Trump is wrong. The Russians clearly did attempt to influence the outcome of the election, preferring Trump over his Democratic rival Hillary Clinton. Americans deserve to know exactly what the Russians did, why they did it, how effective they were—and who worked with them.
Mueller’s headline finding is that Trump did not conspire with the Russians, according to a synopsis of Mueller’s findings provided by Attorney General William Barr. Assuming that’s true, all Americans—Republicans, Democrats, everybody—should be relieved. The US president did not work with a hostile foreign government to undermine the will of American voters.
Trump’s odd display of obsequiousness toward Russian president Vladimir Putin—at the same time Trump was seeking a business deal in Moscow—raised obvious and troubling questions. Was Trump offering Putin favorable treatment from the US government, in exchange for something that benefited Trump personally? Did Putin have something on him?
Without the Mueller investigation, we’d never know. But now we do know. Being able to close the book on that should end one of the scarier episodes in modern US history and reassure voters their government isn’t compromised in this one tangible way.
Muller also revealed that Trump’s former national security advisor, Michael Flynn, was a crook who abused the powers of his office the moment he set foot in it. Mueller exposed the deep corruption of Paul Manafort, Trump’s former campaign chairman, and Manafort’s longtime No. 2, Rick Gates. Mueller laid the groundwork for the conviction of Trump lawyer Michael Cohen, who’s going to jail soon for fraud, tax evasion and campaign-finance felonies. Mueller explained how Russian operatives exploited gaps on Facebook and Twitter in an effort to manipulate American voters, create dissension and help get Trump elected. We don’t often get definitive, trustworthy outcomes in Washington. For once, we did.
Mueller may have uncovered much more we don’t yet know about. While Barr told Congress the Mueller probe found no conspiracy between Trump and Russia, he left the door open regarding other charges of wrongdoing. “While this report does not conclude that the president committed a crime,” Barr wrote, “it also does not exonerate him.”
Trump is clearly complicit in the hush-money payments Cohen arranged to two women Trump had affairs with. If Cohen’s going to jail for those felonies, what about Trump? There are other lingering questions about Trump’s personal and business tax payments, his scammy charity and the profits his business might be making thanks to his position as president. It’s possible Mueller found incriminating evidence regarding Trump, but chose not to prosecute on his own, instead handing his findings to traditional channels in the Justice Department, particularly the US attorney for the Southern District of New York. If so, the whole affair is far from over.
Even with the all-clear on Russia, the Mueller probe has hurt Trump. Seven Trump associates have been convicted of crimes or indicted, and Cohen, Trump’s former lawyer, has supposedly provided further leads. Trump can claim a win on Russia, but Mueller has exposed a griftiness at the core of Trump’s operation, and provided evidence to back it up.
The whole Mueller probe could end up costing around $35 million, at most. That might sound like a lot, but it’s just 0.6% of the $5.7 billion Trump wanted as a border wall down payment when he shut down the government late last year. Independent-counsel investigations into Bill Clinton in the 1990s cost roughly twice what Mueller’s probe will end up costing, and lasted for 8 years. On top of that, the Manafort conviction forced the forfeiture of $42 million in fines and penalties, generating a positive net return for the Mueller probe, if you run the numbers that way.
It’s not often Washington produces something taxpayers can consider a bargain. But Mueller just did. Americans got clarity and ground truth, and can now evaluate Trump knowing what is true and what is not.
I have heard it many times, and he never said he was firing Comey because of his attempt to overthrow a sitting president.
Comey and all the rest of the people attempting a coup against our president hopefully will be charged and convicted soon
You’re correct, he never did say he was firing Comey because of an attempt to overthrow a sitting president. He said he fired Comey over “this Trump-Russer (sic) thing.” Possibly in an attempt to obstruct justice. That’s why Mueller’s report, in part, did not exonerate the president from all questionable activities.
Mueller? He did say that about Comey, as well as the “Trump-Russer (sic) thing.”
Did he say that about Mueller, too? I don’t understand the stroke remark or why?
