given the inflation rate and Biden’s unfavorables, the GOP should have wiped the Dems out like they did in 2010. Trump’s people have underachieved. He is hurting the party big time.
Trump and abortion seriously dragged the GOP down
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If pretty much anyone other than Herschel runs in Georgia, Warnock would have been toast. The way Fetterman struggled to communicate after his stroke, almost anyone would have beaten him except New Jersey’s own Dr. Oz.
But the important thing now is that Trump claims to know things about DeSantis. Bahahahahaha
But the important thing now is that Trump claims to know things about DeSantis. Bahahahahaha
It is hard to believe the twice impeached ex-POTUS who lost the popular vote twice, mishandled a pandemic, stole nuclear secrets, fomented an insurrection and sucked-up to Putin would lead the GOP astray.
I agree with you that the Dems used abortion as a rallying call to their advantage.
People are passionate about the subject.
People are passionate about the subject.
Toots is right about the Abortion and Trump...... Independents/Libertarians in Purple states are not going to vote for Trump. And then you have the hardcore never Trumpers to boot.
Now his whole rant on Trump is just the Left Wing Media talking points he bathes in all day. But his first point is valid.
The GOP has to distance themselves from Trump if possible. He simply is to divisive for moderates to vote for.
Who didn't see this coming? The GOP establishment don't want Trump as their candidate and knows he can't win. It's time for them to "man up" and stop being scared of the Wrath of Don.
Dems don't want Biden as their candidate either. Will they have the guts to unseat an incumbent??
Both appear headed towards announcing their candidacy. Trump has mentioned running as an independent. That would end any chance of a Rep victory. If Reps can't make Trump go away, they are in trouble. Because of the abortion issue, any Dem has a chance to win, even Biden.
God I wish they would both just go away to Florida to play golf and ride their bike!!
Dems don't want Biden as their candidate either. Will they have the guts to unseat an incumbent??
Both appear headed towards announcing their candidacy. Trump has mentioned running as an independent. That would end any chance of a Rep victory. If Reps can't make Trump go away, they are in trouble. Because of the abortion issue, any Dem has a chance to win, even Biden.
God I wish they would both just go away to Florida to play golf and ride their bike!!
Trump running as indy would be the best thing to happen to the GOP.
They could then become moderate and really clean up on elections going forward.
They won't due to the $$$$ that comes from the polarization.
With Trump in the race as an Indy and skimming the 30% cult vote from the Repubs side, no way can Repubs win the White House in '24. Trump splits the Repub base if he's in the race. His ego will not allow him to step aside. The whole "Big Lie" and Jan 6 chit show was the last straw for the majority of Americans.
No they wouldn't win in 24 but in the future a move toward moderates will basically lock down most national elections.
They lose because it takes a whackjob to win their primaries.
“Wounded” Trump is “furious” and blaming Melania for his decision to endorse Oz: report
Trump described the Oz pick as "not her best decision," according to the NY Times' Maggie Haberman
He would syphon off his hard core fanatics from the Vote and insure a Dem win.... Ross Perot anyone.
Yep, and Trump has to know it Does Trump do what's best for Repubs or what's best for Donald fame. My money is on the latter.
for one election cycle.
Then the GOPers that are left can move toward the middle and win from then on.
Sometimes you gotta have hard times before you win big.
The GOPers aren’t going to move toward the middle. The entire party is far right and won’t compromise on anything. Come on.
Trump didn’t move them to the far right. They were there with President Cheney and his spokesperson Bush. Trump didn’t make McConnell leave an opening on the Supreme Court for months so he could get an anti-abortion justice appointed.
The GOP has no moderates. They couldn’t wait to cut rich people’s taxes while the economy was already gangbusters. They all voted for it, cementing the inflation we have today.
NO we won't compromise on Freedom of Speech or the Second Amendment. And we are done compromising on Welfare hand outs to the shiftless and undeserving to win Virtue Signaling points. And at this Point a lot of on the Right are Done with the Whole Climate Change hubbub that has lead to the Energy Crisis. And a lot on the Right are also done with the Senseless Wars the Left keep getting us into... Vietnam, Ukraine, Korea etc.
Your hostility toward our planet is noted.
And I really like how you skipped over that 20-year war when Bush invaded the wrong country and spent a trillion plus. But WMDs.
The guy you would still vote for is burning your party to the ground. What's it like being a cult member?
And I really like how you skipped over that 20-year war when Bush invaded the wrong country and spent a trillion plus. But WMDs.
The guy you would still vote for is burning your party to the ground. What's it like being a cult member?
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I have zero hostility toward the Planet at all. How you extrude that from my not wanting to give away my Rights is baffling?
They say Climate Change and you salute and Vote now who is in the Cult?
And I didn't skip over that War at all in a previous post I listed all the Wars and Actions per party and I clearly listed it. But the Dem's start way more wars than the GOP does...... and Come on Obama didn't do a darn thing about that war either.
They say Climate Change and you salute and Vote now who is in the Cult?
And I didn't skip over that War at all in a previous post I listed all the Wars and Actions per party and I clearly listed it. But the Dem's start way more wars than the GOP does...... and Come on Obama didn't do a darn thing about that war either.
You say "They say Climate Change", well "they" don't have to tell me squat. For chissakes, open your eyes. It is beyond me how anyone can deny that climate change is real, mankind has contributed to it, and mankind must make changes now to lessen our impact on our environment.
Do you not recall I fully admit Climate Change is Real and that Man has contributed to it. How much and how little is up for debate. But it's real and must be addressed.
My issue is that all the Climate Change BS policy don't effect or reduce Climate Change!!! Open your eye's to that fact.
Taxing Farmers for minimal emissions from their farming operations that feed the world but Ignoring Airline Travel a unnecessary luxury that pollutes ten fold seems a bit arse backwards to me. Or not addressing the huge amount of Admissions from extensive Luxury Construction that makes bank for OHH let's say Wealthy Real Estate developers. NO we ignore that massive Emissions producer..... for Don't Know???
I have a issue with massive Climate change Bills that funnel more money to special interest than actually going to real world policy that could reduce Climate Change. Biden has Spent 650 million on Green BS.... Most of that bill is Subsidies and tax credits for Special interest groups.
2.5 Billion for Trial Lawyers....How does that help the Climate???
10 Billion to develop some weird Climate Corps cult!! Yeah that isn't ripe for Grift and shenanigans at all.
300 Billion in Subsides to Wind and Solar to make them profitable and to seem efficient .....Plus a tax credit for EV vehicles of $$12,500 and we know what income bracket buys EV. The top 5 percent income Bracket.
The dang Bill only includes 1 billion for new funding for Basic Energy research. Let that sink in..... only 1 billion for basic Energy Research.
That is my Issue with the Climate Change BS....... Nothing to reduce Population, nothing to address actually Real admissions or coming up with alternative energy research and development or to make Nuclear Safer and Cheaper.
That is why it's all a Climate Scam by the Rich and Political Elites. They still fly around in polluting Private Jets, Drive or are Chauffeured around in vehicles that pollute and waste more energy than the averages civilian cars or Live/Own multiple Homes that use more Electricity in a Day than most homes do in a year. They buy a few Carbon Credits from a Bogus company and Pound their chest and spew they are saving the world.
It's so obvious that they are doing nothing to actually address the issues it's no wonder that a huge segment of the population ignores them. It's also rather funny that the other large segment of the population listens to their propaganda get's emotional and actually believes they are working for and passing policy that will address Climate Change.... while they just funnel money to other places in the form of Pork. But that group is hot under the collar and licks up their bile and begs for more.
THEY WON'T make change to Lessen the IMPACT that is obvious from their Actions......THEY will Weaponize the Threat of Climate Change to get more Power and Wealth that is a Fact.
In the End we will Adapt to the change of Rising Oceans, extended Droughts and Reduced Resources that is what we do as a species. It will be painful and suffering will occur but life will go on.
When you have Immature Spoiled Rich Juveniles in control of the World this is what you get.
My issue is that all the Climate Change BS policy don't effect or reduce Climate Change!!! Open your eye's to that fact.
Taxing Farmers for minimal emissions from their farming operations that feed the world but Ignoring Airline Travel a unnecessary luxury that pollutes ten fold seems a bit arse backwards to me. Or not addressing the huge amount of Admissions from extensive Luxury Construction that makes bank for OHH let's say Wealthy Real Estate developers. NO we ignore that massive Emissions producer..... for Don't Know???
I have a issue with massive Climate change Bills that funnel more money to special interest than actually going to real world policy that could reduce Climate Change. Biden has Spent 650 million on Green BS.... Most of that bill is Subsidies and tax credits for Special interest groups.
2.5 Billion for Trial Lawyers....How does that help the Climate???
10 Billion to develop some weird Climate Corps cult!! Yeah that isn't ripe for Grift and shenanigans at all.
300 Billion in Subsides to Wind and Solar to make them profitable and to seem efficient .....Plus a tax credit for EV vehicles of $$12,500 and we know what income bracket buys EV. The top 5 percent income Bracket.
The dang Bill only includes 1 billion for new funding for Basic Energy research. Let that sink in..... only 1 billion for basic Energy Research.
That is my Issue with the Climate Change BS....... Nothing to reduce Population, nothing to address actually Real admissions or coming up with alternative energy research and development or to make Nuclear Safer and Cheaper.
That is why it's all a Climate Scam by the Rich and Political Elites. They still fly around in polluting Private Jets, Drive or are Chauffeured around in vehicles that pollute and waste more energy than the averages civilian cars or Live/Own multiple Homes that use more Electricity in a Day than most homes do in a year. They buy a few Carbon Credits from a Bogus company and Pound their chest and spew they are saving the world.
It's so obvious that they are doing nothing to actually address the issues it's no wonder that a huge segment of the population ignores them. It's also rather funny that the other large segment of the population listens to their propaganda get's emotional and actually believes they are working for and passing policy that will address Climate Change.... while they just funnel money to other places in the form of Pork. But that group is hot under the collar and licks up their bile and begs for more.
THEY WON'T make change to Lessen the IMPACT that is obvious from their Actions......THEY will Weaponize the Threat of Climate Change to get more Power and Wealth that is a Fact.
In the End we will Adapt to the change of Rising Oceans, extended Droughts and Reduced Resources that is what we do as a species. It will be painful and suffering will occur but life will go on.
When you have Immature Spoiled Rich Juveniles in control of the World this is what you get.
You keep talking about reducing the population, which I heard yesterday that the 8 billionth person on earth was born yesterday. How do you propose to do that?
I agree there is waste in the Military budget and it should be trimmed we can agree on that, using that as a Defense of the Climate Change Bill is weak sauce.
But you can bet that the Waste and Misuse is much larger in the So Called Climate Change Bill. When Over half the Budget is pure Subsides and tax credits that says it all and only 1 billion is actually allocated to fixing the problem it's a pretty brazen act of Govt. Grifting.
And I can tolerate some Grift in the Military Budget as it Protects every U.S. Citizen and often Saves American Soldiers lives as well.
But a Bill that actually does nothing to help Climate Change or even address the Problem is unacceptable at all levels. I guess you and me have different opinions on this..... You are fine with 650 Billion going to Lawyers, the Rich 5% and bogus tax breaks and subsides for in efficient and unreliable Solar/WInd energy and the Formation of some Strange Climate Cult.
If 3/4 of this bill actually went to Research and Development I'd be 100% behind it..... but a Billion and the rest is junk.
You have the right to defend this bill if you desire but How you can do it with a straight face is a huge Jaw Drop to me.
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I don't know a Radical and little know thing Called Birth Control...... I heard some Witch Doctors and Shaman have came up with Magic Herbs and Chants that can do that.
Good Gosh man it's not that complicated..... in Western Countries we are a bit below replacement rate.....1.77 do to smart BC polices and then look at the third world countries many of them push 7/6 BR. If I had had 7 kids I'd be in the poor house with nothing as well!!
It's obvious They out strip their resources because they produce more Children than the region/country can support. Then of course the West swoopes in and makes the problem worse by redistribution of outside Resources to those countries to stave off Famine and Disease. But they don't address the Birth Rate at all and this problem get's worse because of Course the polices also increase the survival rates to boot. Thus the Problem compounds rather quickly...
So it's simple apply a organized BC program across these regions that goes along with the aid that is given...... if the population and nations resist or refuse then that is their right and it must be respected. But with that said then they should respect our withdrawal of support and services and let them solve their own issues and problems and if they can't then natural consequences tend to take care if poor decisions in the long term and short term. Harsh but fair.... the West needs to stop being the Safety Net and Bill payer for countries that clearly look to us as a endless supply of Cash to fix the issues they create.
So YOU want to tell everybody how many kids they can have, even in a another country I get it. If the Catholics religion sasy their folks can't use birth control what should they do?
Did you even read what I said!!!! I said if they want all our support medical,Food Technology and Money then their will be strings attached. If they do not then let them solve their own issues and take care of themselves. Cut them off from Aid and Support.
I'm 100% for them having a choice and doing what they want. I state that all the time from people getting vax , to wearing a mask, to owning Guns etc. I'm about freedom. But when you put your hand out then their are strings attached. Nothing should ever be for free......
We are not obligated my any means to be the safety net and Keeper of these nations.
I have no issue with Catholics or any person having as many kids as they desire. But I and No one else even in America should be obligated to help pay for those Children and the decision that other individuals make. Simple as that.
It's sort of strange that you actually believe we can fix climate Change with EV, Recycling and Solar/Wind Power. The Physics does not line up at all. And the Elites know this..... what they are doing is trying to scare and fear monger the masses into changing their Lifestyles ie. energy consumption by drastic measures. Of course they will Still have Private Jets, Multiple Houses, and luxury vehicles. But they want you and me to not own land, not own Vehicles and live a Cubicle lifestyle of consumption that benefits their Wealth.
In the late 90's I recall reading in a Car mag that in the Future GM wouldn't be selling Vehicles to individuals but instead they would sell Fleet Cars to the Govt and Corporations and everyone Would pay to ride as needed and that Driving would be based on need and other Factors. This article was written by a GM executive. Well we see that in China now................ and you see that tailoring now going on in American Society for the so called Greater good. I see this as a oppression and Control of the elites of the rabble.
We have Decades and really a Century to deal with Climate Change it is not a imminent threat.... but it is being weaponized as one to slowly gain control.
Gain control of the World Population, Bring Back Clean Nuclear, and Focus on Conservation along with adaption and the Problem will be solved.
I'm 100% for them having a choice and doing what they want. I state that all the time from people getting vax , to wearing a mask, to owning Guns etc. I'm about freedom. But when you put your hand out then their are strings attached. Nothing should ever be for free......
We are not obligated my any means to be the safety net and Keeper of these nations.
I have no issue with Catholics or any person having as many kids as they desire. But I and No one else even in America should be obligated to help pay for those Children and the decision that other individuals make. Simple as that.
It's sort of strange that you actually believe we can fix climate Change with EV, Recycling and Solar/Wind Power. The Physics does not line up at all. And the Elites know this..... what they are doing is trying to scare and fear monger the masses into changing their Lifestyles ie. energy consumption by drastic measures. Of course they will Still have Private Jets, Multiple Houses, and luxury vehicles. But they want you and me to not own land, not own Vehicles and live a Cubicle lifestyle of consumption that benefits their Wealth.
In the late 90's I recall reading in a Car mag that in the Future GM wouldn't be selling Vehicles to individuals but instead they would sell Fleet Cars to the Govt and Corporations and everyone Would pay to ride as needed and that Driving would be based on need and other Factors. This article was written by a GM executive. Well we see that in China now................ and you see that tailoring now going on in American Society for the so called Greater good. I see this as a oppression and Control of the elites of the rabble.
We have Decades and really a Century to deal with Climate Change it is not a imminent threat.... but it is being weaponized as one to slowly gain control.
Gain control of the World Population, Bring Back Clean Nuclear, and Focus on Conservation along with adaption and the Problem will be solved.
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Nothing I posted is like China and you Know that..... I guess it's your only defense.
My policy would be nothing like China's forced Authoritarian Policies. Where the Govt using Police and Military action oppress their subjects to adhere to the Govt policies.
I clearly stated that those Countries Can continue with their current policies and live how ever they choose. But if they Stick their Hands out and Want Free unearned Aid and Support then some Strings will be attached. I would be 100% for only giving Aid and Support to those who choose it within those countries . Those who choose to still have 6/7 kids can do so, those who are wiser and want the Aid can simply choose to adhere to some BC guidelines. Eventually and overtime most in those countries will see the benefit of not having so many kids and their population will stabilize.
I'm not advocating For Mass Sterilization of their population.... I'm not some Transhumanist aka eugenics nutter or for the U.S./World force BC upon them with Force. I'm advocating for a Policy that implements these programs to their populations in return for the benefit of what we give them. Again they can take it or leave it.
This clearly lines up with how I feel about American private Business as well... if your employers want you to Wear Safety Glasses and Hard hats or Wear a Suit and tie then do it or don't and move on down the Road.
LOL...... I was just addressing how the issue could be solved and fixed and that it wasn't radical or even hard to do.
I 100% got the insinuation I was advocating for some form of Religious oppression, Forced Sterilization or some evil act of genocide of certain populations. I felt it was necessary to clarify that the means to reduce population can be implemented in a safe and measured manner without any oppression of individual rights.
I guess you have not thoughts or idea's on the issue?
